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Garage1217
01-07-2007, 05:29 AM
I know there are allot of DIY led swappers on this site, so I made some easy to read and work with diagrams for the tC. They will def help out the new led modders. These are the same diagrams that come with my kits. I thought it would be nice just to give them to everyone. They cover the HVAC mods "thanks for the details engifineer, you rock!" They also cover the gauge cluster changes.

Some of the led colors dealing with the automatic tranny lights on the gauge cluster could be wrong.. Have not had an auto in for mods in awhile! Let me know if you guys have any information, corrections or input. Hope they help!

You can also feel free to purchase the HVAC mod parts from my website as they are in stock and also leds, I stock them all! Check out the led section under www.garage1217.com Leds and parts are under the kit section.

UNIVERSAL DIAG FOR ALL YEAR TC GAUGE CLUSTERS
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/GAUGECLUSTERLAYOUT.jpg

2005-2006 HVAC UNIT FRONT
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2006HVACFRONT.jpg
2005-2006 HVAC UNIT REAR
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2006HVACREAR.jpg



2007 HVAC UNIT FRONT
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2007HVACFRONT.jpg
2007 HVAC UNIT REAR
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2007HVACREAR.jpg

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 05:31 AM
a very nice pictorial!

probably best visual thing anyone can use!

Spect2K3
01-07-2007, 05:37 AM
WOW! :bow: Nice job :clap:

Garage1217
01-07-2007, 06:49 AM
Cool, glad you guys like them :)

j3st3r
01-07-2007, 06:55 AM
Excellent Post man!!! :clap: :clap:

Daskid
01-07-2007, 05:38 PM
You're making me wanna do this mod myself!!!! arrrgghh!!!! :P

Nice job!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

LiquidFX
01-07-2007, 05:41 PM
great job, do i see this in the TECH section soon....

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 05:58 PM
haha... it was put there seconds after it was posted. :)

aiverson1
01-07-2007, 09:02 PM
sweet-- good work!

Dakine
01-09-2007, 03:34 AM
what will this NEW hvac mod do for the blue screens?

Garage1217
01-09-2007, 03:38 AM
Makes them bright as ever :) Just a correct way and clean way to accomplish what the old wire and resistor mod did.

all4degame
01-09-2007, 06:37 AM
Very good diagrams!

menace549
01-12-2007, 12:26 AM
:bow: awesome DIY write up. extremely helpful. :bow:

Garage1217
01-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Thanks man :) Doing my best for the DIY die hards :)

Matt_Burgess
01-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Very nice.. :bow:

mattieg
01-12-2007, 01:37 AM
Totally saved this on my computer... Simply amazing,

Mightygnu
01-12-2007, 01:56 AM
nice job.

menace549
01-12-2007, 03:03 AM
I can't wait to get my supplies and tackle mine.

mattieg
01-12-2007, 03:13 AM
Do you need any resistors for changing the lighting in the gauge cluster?

Garage1217
01-12-2007, 03:15 AM
Not in the gauge cluster

mattieg
01-12-2007, 03:15 AM
Also if I mix some white and some blue LED's, will the blue light bleed into the white? I ask because im gonna do a two tone for the gauges but would like to buy blue LED's for the warning and indicator lights. And what are the "SUB on/off LED's"?

Garage1217
01-12-2007, 03:32 AM
The warning lights do not fade into the cluster at all or between themselves. Sub on / off leds are on the ac controls for like the recirc, or ac, or defrost... the little lights...

Golden86
01-12-2007, 06:53 AM
I have a question about the different colors on the gauge cluster.

I plan on doing a blue and red theme, like the new Jettas, blue numbers, and red needles/redlines

When I am swaping out the LED's are there dedicated ones for the needles, and redline sections? If not, wont the red sections turn purple?

Also are there any other "shades" of blue out there? I have seen the blue swaps, but they all look too aqua to me, I want that rich deep blue like on the Jettas.

Thanks for any help, I really want to do this.

SquallLHeart
01-12-2007, 06:56 AM
the blue on the leds are a nice blue in person... not really aqua like you mentioned.

there aren't really dedicated leds for the needles.. and the redline itself is part of the gaugeface.

hmm.. the redline doesn't turn purple when lit up by a blue led... dunno why, but it doesn't.

Hyghgynx
01-12-2007, 07:18 AM
Very nice DIY!! :clap: I'm still debating on the swaps. :nails:

ADRdesignCo
01-12-2007, 09:11 AM
NICE!!! :clap:

RoswellScion
01-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I have a question about the different colors on the gauge cluster.

I plan on doing a blue and red theme, like the new Jettas, blue numbers, and red needles/redlines

When I am swaping out the LED's are there dedicated ones for the needles, and redline sections? If not, wont the red sections turn purple?

Also are there any other "shades" of blue out there? I have seen the blue swaps, but they all look too aqua to me, I want that rich deep blue like on the Jettas.

Thanks for any help, I really want to do this.

Look on Garage1217's page and look at the featured swap. I can personally guarantee that the LEDs look MUCH better in person. ;)

Steve

Golden86
01-13-2007, 06:34 AM
Thanks for pointing me to that site, the cluster looks good, but im still looking for something a little richer, more like a royal blue.

I could also do all white LED's and use a blue filter of some type, but I don't know where to get the filters?

I don't know where I saw it, but someone swapped in UV blacklight LED's, and thats the color I want. I just don't know where to get them, can somebody point me in the right direction?

I REALLY want to do this swap.

RoswellScion
01-13-2007, 08:19 AM
The blue is almost more of a rich violet color. It especially looks this way when you turn down the brightness just a tad.

SquallLHeart
01-13-2007, 08:52 AM
I don't know where I saw it, but someone swapped in UV blacklight LED's, and thats the color I want. I just don't know where to get them, can somebody point me in the right direction?

I REALLY want to do this swap.
UV is damaging to the eyes as well as it'll be annoying and discomforating after awhile. no one does that type of swap and i won't do it myself even if someone requests it.

Garage1217
01-13-2007, 09:13 AM
Bingo, UV not good. Also uv is more of a shade of violet than royal blue... The led blue is an amazing blue. Look at most any blue led at an electronics store and that is the color you get. You could describe it in person as a candy blue.. has depth to it... Pics never show how good or rich it looks in person. Also the two color two tone that I make does use filters which is the only way to get the two seperate colors.

I have a huge assortment of items coming in to make new reliable non fading custom colors. I already offer deep purple, yellow and pink. The new colors I will be offering are....

aquamarine everything "looks sooo nice in person.. very soothing to the eyes"

Ice purple, which is somthing I am developing... Looks allot like the purple / white you see with oem HID kits..

Hot pink, almost a purple / pink color..

And working on some other sweet goodies :)

mattieg
01-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Sounds good.... cant wait for the goodies to come in.

thekidblue
01-13-2007, 06:20 PM
Project countdown T-minus 7 months!

Garage1217
01-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Right on man :) Lets rock your stuff soon!

rvpps2rocks
01-13-2007, 07:46 PM
for a beginner solder and LEDer what wattage or what kinda of soldering iron would u recommend

Garage1217
01-13-2007, 07:55 PM
15-25w and no more.

Matt_Burgess
01-13-2007, 09:25 PM
garage1217, I'd like to put together a kit for the cluster and hvac, but id'e rather do it over the phone..Would that be possible?

Garage1217
01-13-2007, 09:38 PM
Of course, not a problem. Pm me your phone number and a time to call later this evening.

thespottedcow
01-14-2007, 06:29 AM
Do you have a diagram for the radio leds? and also, does the steering wheel controls just pry off the steering wheel? how exactly does that work. btw my gauges look very nice, ill see if i can get some pictures posted later.

scionetics
01-14-2007, 06:46 AM
Can't make the DIY any easier. Great post...

SquallLHeart
01-14-2007, 07:05 AM
Do you have a diagram for the radio leds? and also, does the steering wheel controls just pry off the steering wheel? how exactly does that work. btw my gauges look very nice, ill see if i can get some pictures posted later.
radio:
there are pictures on the other pages... look thru the article
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=84661

steering wheel controls:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=91321
more than just prying.

Yanki01
01-15-2007, 07:20 PM
good job, now i just need to find the balls to do it! http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/images/smiles/thumbsup.gif

Garage1217
01-16-2007, 12:43 AM
<< Owns a set of those balls, I can swap your stuff anytime!

Yanki01
01-16-2007, 12:51 AM
<---- me and her are thinking about you doing the swap :ponder:

where are you located?

Garage1217
01-16-2007, 01:11 AM
I am located in Arizona. I do a ton of mail order and would be happy to rock your gauges for ya!

Yanki01
01-16-2007, 02:15 AM
pm'd you

bluetc2005
01-16-2007, 05:31 AM
yeah...I am not really good with soldering...I tend to make a mess...who is making these kits installed to buy?

Yanki01
01-16-2007, 06:02 AM
yeah...I am not really good with soldering...I tend to make a mess...who is making these kits installed to buy?
knowone makes a "kit". You have to send it to one of these LED gods on here and they do the swap for you.

7thgear
01-16-2007, 06:42 AM
if we swap out the led for the the little red light that blinks with the key next to it with a different color, will it still blink? sorry, i totally forgot the name of it.

Garage1217
01-16-2007, 06:46 AM
Not sure which you are talking about. I offer a parts kit with diagrams, but you have to know how to solder and have solder supplies in order to make the kit work.

Garage1217
01-22-2007, 05:02 AM
Bump! XA diag is done and in the xa forum... XB soon to come!

magyver
01-25-2007, 05:40 AM
what is the blue wavelength of your led's? i've see the blue led in person and wasnt my taste. i want a deep ___ blue look.. any info?

Garage1217
01-25-2007, 11:25 AM
With leds you will generally not get a deep blue, however I can prodce a deep almost navy blue as a custom color. General wavelength is 475nm.

magyver
01-25-2007, 09:09 PM
custom sounds expensive... no?

Garage1217
01-26-2007, 12:18 AM
Custom colors run about $25 more in general.

woffledong
01-27-2007, 06:32 PM
so where about are the leds for the needles? are they in the gauge leds cluster? i wanna only do the red on the high end of my tach and speedo. thanks.

Garage1217
01-27-2007, 06:54 PM
That is a question I get all the time, the needles are not lit by seperate LEDs, they are lit by the same leds that light up the gauge cluster. People tend to think they can change the needle color by simply swapping an led under them. Not so, you have to paint them or change them colors by a few other methods...

woffledong
01-27-2007, 08:42 PM
well i figured they were the same one, do you know how the needles change from one color to the next when your tach gets to about 3500. is that from wiring the furthest right led red or is it a paint trick?

Garage1217
01-27-2007, 09:23 PM
It is a simple light filter trick on the gauge surface. If you choose white needles, I offer the RPM change free.

Riceburner98
01-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Just had to say, I did the swap last night and DAMN it looks better in person than in the pictures! I tried white but changed to pretty much all blue. Swapped around colors in the idiot lights and HVAC status lights including the fading temperature ring (that's AWESOME in person!)... Not a hard thing to do, and VERY well worth the time spent! Good job on the diagrams, I'm sure they'll help lots of people to come! While I was in there I doubled up on the odometer and HVAC LCD LED's, don't know if anyone else is bothered by the "bright spots" on the LCD screens or not.. (I could always see that there were 2 LED's on the odo and 3 on the HVAC) So I equally spaced 4 for the odo and 6 for the HVAC, and now it's a nice even light. But a PITA to do! :) Keep up the good work!

FLINT
01-30-2007, 02:50 AM
:clap:

b_wet
01-30-2007, 02:36 PM
hey garage i see on your site you sell a hvac fix kit. i was wondering if you could take a pic so i can see what it is i plan on buying like 3 sometime in the near future.

are u just selling the resistors or what exactly is it, thx

Garage1217
01-30-2007, 11:35 PM
The kit includes resistors and the new power IC. Everything you need to make it all bright and clean looking!

m6ar2cel6oTC
01-31-2007, 01:27 AM
damn anyone in the kansas are willing to do the cluster and the HVAC and the steering wheel control for money for me? will to drive to you? depending how far of a drive lol? will be greatly appreciated! i ghave no skills in soldering!

Garage1217
01-31-2007, 04:32 AM
I do tons of mail order if you do not find a local. My work is guaranteed and I have done a lot of them, so no worries :)

m6ar2cel6oTC
01-31-2007, 05:09 AM
thanks! :bow:

Garage1217
01-31-2007, 07:23 AM
Pm sent :)

Jman007
01-31-2007, 05:54 PM
Garage
I got my resostors to day. That was fast,
thanks

Garage1217
01-31-2007, 06:04 PM
Right on man!

b_wet
01-31-2007, 09:35 PM
hey garage are the resisotrs you sell the ones you still have to wire up or are they direct replacemant for the ones on the board?

i need to know this before i can buy and believe me i NEED to buy,
right now i need one 07 and one 06 package.

SquallLHeart
02-02-2007, 06:32 AM
it's a replacement.

Garage1217
02-02-2007, 06:33 AM
I only sell kits that are surface mount resistors and the power IC. They are not the older kits with hole through resistors run all over and cut traces. So yes, they are direct replacements for ones on the board.

b_wet
02-02-2007, 09:29 PM
^ swet i'll take two. sending payment now, i want kit for 05-06 and i need one for 07.

*edit* payment sent.

Garage1217
02-03-2007, 02:52 AM
Cool man, technically same parts, different diagrams :)

Garage1217
02-11-2007, 09:38 PM
Sorry foe the delay in the XB diagram guys, it is coming :) Just been swamped with swaps and work.

azndragon609
02-12-2007, 09:05 AM
got my kit awhile back...gotta remember this post for reference when i actually get to the fix.

Thanks Garage!

Garage1217
02-12-2007, 01:10 PM
The diagrams are also located here on my website....

http://www.garage1217.com/album1_004.htm

dablackghost
02-13-2007, 03:04 AM
any do LED swaps in lancaster, pa

Garage1217
02-17-2007, 03:10 AM
I am happy to do them mail order anytime for ya :)

zackyvengence
02-19-2007, 11:33 PM
Garage, if i wanted to do a mail order swap, i would have to send you my cluster? and anything else that i wanted swapped? or do you send an already swapped cluster?

Garage1217
02-20-2007, 02:47 AM
You have to send your original cluster as your cluster holds the vehicle milage.

zackyvengence
02-20-2007, 03:31 AM
makes sense, what about HVAC, steering wheel controls, etc?

Garage1217
02-20-2007, 05:47 PM
I do stock HVAC units for 05-06 tc's and can send an already Modified unit to you. Pm for details.

Matt_Burgess
02-20-2007, 11:03 PM
Pm sent....

zackyvengence
02-21-2007, 03:19 AM
will on 05-06 work and fit in an 07?

Garage1217
02-21-2007, 05:38 AM
No, the 07 hvac is a totally different beast than the 05-06. Different layout and different processor.

zackyvengence
02-21-2007, 12:19 PM
ok thanks

zackyvengence
02-22-2007, 01:08 AM
Anyone do LED work in the New York Long Island area?

Garage1217
02-26-2007, 07:06 PM
There was a person in that area, have not seen him on here in ages.

Garage1217
03-02-2007, 01:13 AM
Bump for the led noobs!

blipblop
03-13-2007, 07:13 PM
what kind of LEDs can i use and is there any place where i can buy like a pack of 50? incase i mess up for cheap. they are buck a piece @ your place O_o

Garage1217
03-13-2007, 07:19 PM
89 cents each. You can order from ebay if you want, but not sure if you will get the right brightness. Also takes between 14 - 25 days to get

blipblop
03-13-2007, 07:24 PM
i'll probably order from you in a couple of days, i don't want any ebay things if the brightness isn't correct. thanks

Garage1217
03-26-2007, 05:51 AM
Bump! Back home and in action tommorow! been a long couple of weeks!

Garage1217
04-01-2007, 10:33 PM
I am taking a trip all this week and think I have time to finish the xb stuff ;) You guys will be happy then I am sure!

Guru
04-07-2007, 09:42 PM
Anyone go the mouser part number for the resistors and regulator needed? I found the LED's from Mouser already. Thanks!

Garage1217
04-07-2007, 10:11 PM
There leds will not be even close to bright enough and that is an honest fact. Buy from myself or engifineer as we carry the right leds you need. We also both carry the resistor and power IC kits you need. No hunting around and no bs. Ready to ship.

beckham388
04-10-2007, 07:45 PM
Thinking about timing my swap with some other interior work I am doing on my 2007 tC. What is the typical turnaround time? I would be shipping the unit to you from Ohio.

Garage1217
04-10-2007, 11:44 PM
I perform the work generally the same day I get the items if you let me know what day it is expected to arrive. I then ship it out the following day priority mail so turn around time is very quick!

Garage1217
04-12-2007, 12:37 AM
BUMP!

Garage1217
04-23-2007, 06:34 PM
Diag BUMP!

Amoxaphobic
04-27-2007, 02:44 PM
Thank you very much. I am def going to redo mine (which is done with wire's).
Ordering parts now... and book marked the page!
:clap::bow:

Garage1217
04-27-2007, 04:14 PM
Right on!

Garage1217
05-02-2007, 01:56 AM
Bump!

Garage1217
05-07-2007, 04:38 AM
Sunday BUMP!

Garage1217
05-15-2007, 03:22 AM
Bump for the DIY peeps

Garage1217
05-19-2007, 01:31 AM
Bump!

trdtcpr
05-19-2007, 01:49 AM
Thanks! :clap: :clap:

Garage1217
05-29-2007, 06:10 AM
Back from vacation bump!

Garage1217
06-01-2007, 03:51 AM
In Iowa BUMP!

Garage1217
06-04-2007, 01:06 AM
Hey guys, updated the LED section of the website to make it more user friendly and much more easy to find what your looking for. Will keep the updates coming :) Thanks for all the support!

mike_has_a_tc
06-04-2007, 02:13 AM
great post!!!!!!!

Garage1217
06-10-2007, 03:01 AM
Evening BUMP!

Garage1217
06-13-2007, 01:59 AM
Evening BUMP!

Garage1217
06-18-2007, 12:27 AM
Evening bump!

Garage1217
06-19-2007, 07:34 PM
Diagram bump!

polishstud
06-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Hey can I ask which Led is it that causes a needle to change colors as it moves. Based on the diagram photos?

Garage1217
06-23-2007, 06:15 AM
There is not one :) You have to make a custom lense that changes the needles colors as it moves. Not just a simple led change. Decent amount of work involved.

Garage1217
06-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Bump!

polishstud
06-30-2007, 07:48 PM
There is not one Smile You have to make a custom lense that changes the needles colors as it moves. Not just a simple led change. Decent amount of work involved.

Well Could you be so kind and to pm me with how to do it and also with what parts would be needed.

I need to order two led kits for the guages/ tach not the hvac yet lol. So any info you can give me along with prices would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and assistance. Have a good day. :bow:

10PieceNuggets
07-02-2007, 08:07 PM
Im a newbie when it comes to modding cars so I dont know much, but I would love to change the color of my dash lighting (the needle, the mph numbers, gas indicator, etc.) I know oznium has what I need but what do you actually do with them? Do I look at the diagram in the first and simply pull it out, and pop the new LEDs in?

Garage1217
07-05-2007, 07:48 PM
From the sound of it, I think you would be better off sending them in to one of us swappers :) There is a lot of soldering and work involved.

polishstud
07-05-2007, 08:47 PM
Garage can You be so kind and to give me your email address so I can send you a payment for some leds?

I know it has desert in the name but other than that I dont remember it. Thanks

Garage1217
07-06-2007, 08:48 AM
Yeah man, my paypal is desertheatracing@yahoo.com

polishstud
07-06-2007, 09:19 AM
How much is a kit for just the guage cluster? Not the Hvac.

I need the guages to be blue and will have the needles red so maybe a red led under the needles will bring out the color more. Then anything else you would like to throw in is fine with me lol.

I am doing these for a buddy and that was his request. "Blue guages, red needles, the rest is up to you" lol. :P

triniosito
07-06-2007, 10:05 AM
You're making me wanna do this mod myself!!!! arrrgghh!!!! :P

Nice job!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

2x

Garage1217
07-06-2007, 06:28 PM
You just buy leds for the cluster, no kit really. For the DIY person you have to buy paint / detail brish to make it work for ya...

polishstud
07-06-2007, 10:05 PM
Garage1217
PostPosted: 7/6/07 11:28AM Post subject:
You just buy leds for the cluster, no kit really. For the DIY person you have to buy paint / detail brish to make it work for ya...


Oh I know I already have the needles painted red with a white undercoat. I was just reading one of the posts that enfineer posted a while back about how much better the needles look when you outline them with a red led lol.

Didnt you Sir, have a kit back in the day that you sold for like 30 bucks or something? lol. Ah maybe im thinking of something else. lol. Ok have a good day.

Garage1217
07-07-2007, 02:32 AM
Hey man, yeah no kits, but I do sell all the leds and parts you could want.

Garage1217
07-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Morning Bump!

Garage1217
07-19-2007, 02:34 AM
Bump!

Garage1217
07-25-2007, 11:29 PM
Evening bump!

Garage1217
07-28-2007, 05:45 PM
Morning bump!

Garage1217
08-02-2007, 11:13 PM
Diagram bump!

imagin
08-02-2007, 11:30 PM
How much is a kit for just the guage cluster? Not the Hvac.

I need the guages to be blue and will have the needles red so maybe a red led under the needles will bring out the color more. Then anything else you would like to throw in is fine with me lol.

I am doing these for a buddy and that was his request. "Blue guages, red needles, the rest is up to you" lol. :P

I think in order to keep the red LED for the needle from bleeding into the rest of the gauge cluster, you will have to isolate it so that it only illuminates the needle. If im not mistaken

LEDMods_net
08-04-2007, 01:18 PM
I think in order to keep the red LED for the needle from bleeding into the rest of the gauge cluster, you will have to isolate it so that it only illuminates the needle. If im not mistaken

I like how you recommend my method (instead of the colored stickers), yet you were talking trash on it in another post. Just wait until you test this method out, you'll realize the gauges will be a little dim, and the best way to fix this... relocate the LED's. Also, to get a brighter needle, bring the LED's closer. Hmmm... my method does make sense after all, but what do I know. I've only been modding scion gauges longer than most of the other modders on this forum...

ScionJim23
08-04-2007, 03:28 PM
Here we go again with his trash talking and dissing other swappers. This Guys a joke. Now i know why he's not recommended unless you want your gauges back in 3 months with them in semi working condition. haha. Use garage, squall, or engifineer. They do better work and have a FASTER turnaround time and acutally TEST your gauges before they ship it back to you. And also, they don't rape you on the price and claim some BS 40% deal :rofl: .

LEDMods_net
08-04-2007, 05:34 PM
Jim, jim jim. You really don't know what you're talking about do you? Whose gauge cluster did I keep for 3 months? 1 persons, and that was explained (I won't explain again, and again).

Also, how do the other modders do better work? I have a 1 day turnaround time, and I test all the parts before shipping (that is a new policy I have).

Also, whats this crap about my prices being so high? Show me you're not talking out of your juvenile a$$, and list in your next post everyone's regular prices (including mine). Then everyone will see how you, imagin, and eveyone else who I have never done business with is so full of sh**.

Here, I'll start for you.

ledmods.net prices:

blue gauges, blue needles, and blue indicator lights: $80
blue gauges, white needles, blue indicator lights: $120
custom LCD screen: add $20
color changing needles: add $20

blue HVAC: $100
custom LCD screen: add $30

blue factory radio: $100
custom LCD screen: $30

steering wheel & door controls: $45

3rd brake light conversion (without a hacked up housing): $120


Garage's prices:

Squall's prices

Engineers prices

go ahead, fill in the above prices, and show me and everyone else reading, you have no idea what you're talking about. I want to see who gets raped on the prices.

I've also been a forum sponsor for well over 1 year. which other modder has done that?

SquallLHeart
08-04-2007, 07:02 PM
Also, how do the other modders do better work? I have a 1 day turnaround time, and I test all the parts before shipping (that is a new policy I have).
i love how you provide stuff to say against you.

i won't even touch the pricing.. i'll let people do that.

ScionJim23
08-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Well this ones for my boy Squall (Trung). You asked for it LEDMODS.NET. Heres the prices from another swapper who informed me of his awesome prices. So bite on this dumb@$$. Lets see if you update your prices now. O and yea, still looks like your raping people compared to Trungs prices :rofl: Trung you're awesome, thanks for providing these prices to me so I can shove it down his throat :bow:

O and yea, LEDMODS.net is an idiot. He asks me whos cluster he kept for 3 months and then right after that he says, O YEA, I DID KEEP SOMEONES, but i wont explain it again. hes such and @$$. he answered his own question. And many others on this site have had issues with their gauges not working due to poor poor workmanship from you. Anyways.....


SQUALLS (TRUNG) PRICING
blue gauges, blue needles: $60
blue gauges, white needles: $70
(extra indicator lights, FREE)
custom LCD screen: FREE

blue HVAC: $70
custom LCD screen: FREE

blue factory radio: $80, but ALWAYS suggest to customer to save the money for aftermarket.
custom LCD screen: FREE

steering wheel & door controls: $20

tips appreciated and work always guaranteed. always prefer to have the customer watch, and i won't hide any of my work.. - Exactly squall, unlike someone does...COUGH (LEDMODS.NET)

ScionJim23
08-05-2007, 01:33 AM
Hmmmmm....No response from him yet (CHECK BACK ON PAGE 7 LEDMODS.net for my previous response to your pricing). Guess We shut him up for once. Looks like we proved him wrong. Here's what he said (LEDMODS.net):
"go ahead, fill in the above prices, and show me and everyone else reading, you have no idea what you're talking about. I want to see who gets raped on the prices." :blah:

Looks like I proved him wrong. Seems like I do know what im talking about and I guess you're the one Raping people on prices still :rofl: . Any response to this buddy?

SquallLHeart
08-05-2007, 09:08 AM
he response so far to "cheap" reasonable prices was this..

I don't "reel them in" with a cheap swap price, and stick them with a needle conversion charge, and indicator lights charge. I've always been upfront and honest. No nonsense. And now that I am offering a sale on my services, I am now by far the least expensive. Get your facts straight.
and isn't he kinda contradicting himself by saying he doesn't "reel in" customers with a cheap price? isn't that what he was trying to do by saying he charges the least? attract customers?

ohh but with e extra stuff the some people charge people for... uhmm.. so wait a sec... so to add.. color changing needles.. he charges $20 more? which is basically the same as the... $120 gauge swap.... okay.. so instead of installing two same color leds... you switch one.. and then charge $20 for it?

and then hmm.. extra $20-30 if you want him to take and replace a piece of polarized plastic? sure... oh wait... he has to first scratch the piece and maybe decide not to replace it but to just reuse it.

someone try to help me understand... i'm so confused...

sorry Jeremy... mr. you-know-who had to cause this thread to go off-topic... i'll clean it up later... but i'd like to at least get an explanation to help things get clarified... as i want to clear the confusion prior before i make stuff disappear.

ScionJim23
08-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Man, Squall your right on. Nothing but the truth on his prices and how he always goes off topic and causes this mess. This dudes got me confused to on how he says he's got the best prices, most experience, and best quality when I've heard nothing but bad reviews from him and crappy service. LEDMODS.net, care to explain your reasoning for things since you made this mess on your own. You called us out, and I brought the facts which showed that I DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT and that you are over-rated. How come no response yet man....You running scared and feeling embarrased now? Maybe you should stop dissing the three other swappers here since they could smoke you anyday on a swap.

ScionJim23
08-07-2007, 03:32 PM
no response from him still. What happenend man, Looks like you finally saw the truth and are running scared.

ScionJim23
08-09-2007, 04:47 PM
Were still waiting :come:. LEDMODs.net what happened, you turned into a :loser: . All you do is :blah: :blah: :blah: anyways and lie to people. We're gonna hunt you down and find you eventually around here :gun:.

Garage1217
08-14-2007, 06:31 PM
What the he** is Paul doing on MY post? Get this looser off my writeup and stop trying to put your name in a writeup and post I created to HELP scion members.

And Paul, your work speaks for iteself, even the customer that you told "you would make it better" had to send your CRAP back to me to fix. He did not ask you to mod my work, he was HAPPY with it, and AGAIN is 100% HAPPY with it over your crap.

This really ____es me off, I help out as much as I can do everyone on this forum and am ACTUALLY A SCION OWNER. You just jump on here, screw peoples crap up, make false promises, lie to customers, and generally make the swapping scene look like crap. You know how many people have told me "I am afraid to send my stuff to anyone because of that ledmod guy"??? Yeah you are loosing business for ALL OF US.

You know I had to go and buy multiple gauge clusters and HVAC units to loan or sell to your customers that had to go for 3+ months without anything? Some of which I have not gotten back off loan status which puts me OUT OF MONEY because of your personal CRAP.

As of this day I have had to repair 6-7 if your "quality jobs" yeah right *LOL* Multiple cold solder joints, stuff shorting out and the latest MESS OF CRAP you did for my customer.

Stay off my posts period Paul, I do not like parasites trying to feed off my hard work and name that I have built for myself through quality work, fast shipping, excellent customer service and ALWAYS being there for my customers.

ScionJim23
08-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Agreed. Paul is a pain in the @$$ on this site and is dissing your work along with other swappers. His quality sucks and yours is straight up the best along with engifineer and squalls. Notice paul hasn't responded to my post about his prices vs. Trungs. And i feel sorry for you Jeremy that you loaned out your items for people and some of them have not returned it to you when all you were doing is helping them out and fixing pauls mess. Thats disrespectful on those peoples behalf. Sorry to here some people screwed you like paul screwed them.

Garage1217
08-14-2007, 06:57 PM
Yeah well some people are just "people" ya know and yeah his crap has hurt us all in some way shape or form.

Garage1217
08-22-2007, 04:57 PM
Bump

audioandy
08-26-2007, 04:06 AM
i was afraid to do this myself but i think i can do it with this info

SquallLHeart
08-26-2007, 10:40 AM
yup yup yup man! :P we're here to help with anything you need.

ScionJim23
08-26-2007, 03:20 PM
^x2

Garage1217
09-06-2007, 08:29 PM
Bump!

08ScionChad
09-10-2007, 04:08 AM
Hey Garage, nice diagrams. Can you tell me if the 07 HVAC board is the same for the 08 model? Thanks.

SquallLHeart
09-10-2007, 09:59 AM
it's the same.

Garage1217
09-14-2007, 04:04 PM
FRIDAY BUMP!

Garage1217
09-21-2007, 05:08 AM
Almost Friday bump!

Garage1217
09-24-2007, 07:20 PM
Monday BUMP!

Garage1217
09-27-2007, 04:49 PM
Almost Friday BUMP!

Garage1217
10-01-2007, 09:34 PM
Monday BUMP!

Garage1217
10-09-2007, 06:31 PM
Bump!

Garage1217
10-14-2007, 08:22 PM
Sunday BUMP!

Garage1217
10-26-2007, 11:11 PM
Back in the us / back home BUMP!

Amoxaphobic
10-30-2007, 07:45 AM
Where did you go?

Garage1217
10-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Mexico, then Canada on business

Amoxaphobic
10-31-2007, 01:40 PM
Sounds like fun. I live like 4 hours away from Mexico and have never been there... but I have been to Canada - go figure. :lol:.

Anyways... off topic.

BUMP! :D

Garage1217
11-06-2007, 03:32 AM
Hey guys. Just an update I am putting on all of my posts. Some of you swappers may know that the an7710sp power IC is no longer in production and not available anyplace in the usa. This was a wonderfull package size that was an exact match to the oem. Engifineer "Dave" did a great job locating it and figuring out the overall hvac mod so kudos to Dave!

This has caused a small delay in my shipping until a reliable alt was found and tested out. The new power ic is a bit larger but actually a tad quicker to install. I tested the chip thermally without a sink and it has no issues with the small requirements of the leds and is quite overbuilt! Since the original power ic has been axed, there may be different options people come up with. This is my choice to run with this package size and install method and it will be included in all of my kits. It will come pre-cut but not pre-bent as it could cause shipping issues in bubble envelopes. The legs are cake to bend with just your finger.

Below is an example of one of the chips I have been testing. The actual unit that will be in the kits is a different brand, but same chip basically :) Excuse the small amout of flux on the board *LOL* Just a test unit!

This is what the new power ic will look like installed. Again this model number chip works perfect but is not the unit I will be including in the kits. Visually they are identicle. Also to note the center leg is bent the opposite way and is attached to the ground pad "common" for the old power IC. The mount is rock solid and there will be no issues.

http://www.garage1217.com/GAUGECLUSTERS/POWERIC/ic2.jpg

Garage1217
11-27-2007, 08:59 PM
BUMP for holiday swaps!

Garage1217
12-09-2007, 07:31 AM
Bump of the week ;)

VIP_tC08
12-12-2007, 12:47 PM
Garage i purchased your entire kit to do my gauges and hvac, i also got an extra resistor kit just in case but last night the installer who was doing mine contacted me about there missing, or not being the 431 resistors, do you have a clue ta as what he is talking about..its for an '08 tC

Garage1217
12-12-2007, 09:05 PM
There is no 431 resistor required for the swap. Only

430 = 43 ohm
131 = 130 ohm
561 = 560 ohm
681 = 680 ohm
4220 or 422a = 420 ohm


Just missed me also, I am at Ft Lauderdale International airport right now flying back to Az today.

VIP_tC08
12-12-2007, 09:52 PM
thanks i got it..looks great

Garage1217
12-21-2007, 03:33 AM
Almost the best time of the year bump!

Garage1217
01-11-2008, 03:02 AM
Stuck at an airport in the cold... BUMP!

O5_TRD_tC
01-25-2008, 06:02 PM
PM'd

AtC
01-30-2008, 05:53 AM
hey garage,

does ur kit also provide a "cliff notes" on how to sodder?

Garage1217
01-30-2008, 02:40 PM
Sorry it does not, however I did make a post on here that shows how to remove and solder a plcc led.

NeveNelEstate
02-12-2008, 03:50 AM
i noticed in one of your other post that you had a test harness hooked up to test the clusters, are you willing to share the pin outs for that harness? i bought a extra gauge cluster for spare parts and it came with the connector and a few inches of harness, so i'd like to make a test harness.

Oh and thanks for the updated IC install info, i must have gotten one of your last old style ones back in October, but Engifineer hooked me up with the part number for the new one, got plenty on hand now.

Thanks again for all the help you given so far :)

Garage1217
02-12-2008, 10:18 PM
Man you want all my little secrets and gadgets huh :) The pinout is available in the doc section right on this site!

NeveNelEstate
02-13-2008, 12:17 AM
Man you want all my little secrets and gadgets huh :) The pinout is available in the doc section right on this site!

Pardon my ignorance but i couldn't find it for the life of me, looked around for about 15mins, if you could post a link or PM me the link i would be most appreciative.

Garage1217
03-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Bump from overseas! Sitting in Zurich Switzerland right now out on business. I will be back on or after March 12th. All orders as of Feb 29th shipped on time. My wife will be taking care of shipping for me before I arrive home so no delays! Thanks guys!

Garage1217
03-04-2008, 04:33 AM
Freakin cold outside right now! 5:30am here. Man this 8 hour time difference is freakin me out man!

ApEx81
03-26-2008, 04:26 AM
what about the two tone for the cluster? how's that done?

Garage1217
03-26-2008, 04:28 AM
With translucent vinyl. Sticks on the back of the gauge faces. I carry the vinyl on my website.

Garage1217
04-02-2008, 08:31 PM
My 1st baby girl due the end of this month BUMP! Very excited!

O5_TRD_tC
04-02-2008, 08:49 PM
congrats Jeremy!

ScionJim23
04-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Congrats to you and your wife on your first baby girl Jeremy!!!

Garage1217
04-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Thanks guys :) 2 boys & 1 girl is perfect. Snip snip time hahaha.

ApEx81
04-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Got two girls.........stilll workin on tha boy lol :clap:

Garage1217
04-18-2008, 03:43 AM
Evening BUMP!

Ukno0003
04-18-2008, 03:58 AM
Im not sure if this was covered in the 9 pages before this i was to lazy to read it. But how do you put the led's in, is there a special way to swap the stock leds out? cause I really want to do this. again sorry if this was covered in the 9 pages before me.

Jeremy Congrats man

Garage1217
04-18-2008, 04:00 AM
They are solder in.

Ukno0003
04-18-2008, 04:08 AM
thats what i was thinkin thanks, i wonder if i can find anyone around here that know how to solder, ive never done it.

Garage1217
04-18-2008, 04:10 AM
You can always mail your items in!

Ukno0003
04-18-2008, 01:38 PM
ive been thinking about doing that also.

Ill let you know what i decide to do.

Thanks jeremy

xbbox
04-19-2008, 03:32 PM
I know it's probably in here somewheres, but can someone answer this for me please.

I want to change my gauge and HVAC LED's out to green. Do I need to replace the resistors in both of them, or just the HVAC?
Thanks!

Ace83
04-19-2008, 03:39 PM
got answer on your other post.. but i advice you to read more on DIY here

ChrisLilja
04-19-2008, 04:54 PM
is the LCD for the HVAC the same on an 05 as it is on an 07 ?

Ace83
04-19-2008, 04:55 PM
i think so, and i need one too for my extra HVAC

Garage1217
04-19-2008, 05:12 PM
05-07 is the same lcd, 08 is different.

TheTrue1
04-22-2008, 10:02 PM
The LEDs on the gauge cluster for the auto tranny seem to be smaller than the PLCC-2s...do they use the same size LEDs or would I have to buy smaller 1s to replace them?

Garage1217
04-23-2008, 03:16 AM
They are all plcc-2 on tc gauge clusters.

TheTrue1
04-23-2008, 01:05 PM
Oh ok cool, appreciate that....

Garage1217
04-28-2008, 12:51 AM
Bump!

Garage1217
07-08-2008, 05:40 AM
Updated the website tonight & started up the new online store! Makes it SUPER easy to shop without hassle. I have a ton of new products on the way that you guys are going to dig big time!!!
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

New store is located at:
http://store.garage1217.com/

Of course the old website is still up in a fashion... Will use it for text & other documentation.

As always myself and my family really appriciate your business!
www.garage1217.com

Garage1217
07-09-2008, 04:09 AM
Working my tail off on the new webstore, new items being added daily! Added quite a few this evening!

I really appriciate the scionlife community support! You have no idea how much the garage1217 family appriciates you keeping your business with us.

http://store.garage1217.com/

Garage1217
07-12-2008, 06:31 PM
Saturday BUMP! Have a great weekend guys!

Garage1217
07-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Almost FRIDAY bump!!

trrocks03
07-25-2008, 08:59 PM
Great Post Garage!

I am looking into getting this done. I am going to explore your website over the weekend. Can't right now cause I'm at work :lalala:

I am pretty good with assembly stuff so I think I will try it myself, but probably contact you on the parts. I like that "red-head" theme you had on another thread and might consider something like that. I saw that you used a stick-on-filter? I guess that means you had all white led's?

Garage1217
07-25-2008, 09:14 PM
Yes that is correct, all white leds and you use the translucent vinyl on my website to create the two tone effects you want :)

Garage1217
07-27-2008, 06:58 PM
Back from Ireland BUMP!

Akrylic09
07-28-2008, 11:35 PM
Welcome back jeremy!!!

anyhoo...would you like to share the color changing needle trick with me? :lalala: :P i tried every possible way imaginable with the vynal i purchased from you but i dont seem to get it.....or is it a special way to paint the needle on the inside of the housing....hmmmmmmm

Garage1217
07-28-2008, 11:48 PM
Paint the needle white, then place the film in the areas under the needle were you want it to change. Kind of trial and error but it works out great and the color change is very vivid.

Akrylic09
07-28-2008, 11:54 PM
i tried that with no luck.It kinda worked but it came out very very faint...so i thought there was a special trick on how to paint the needle or where i should say...

Garage1217
07-28-2008, 11:58 PM
hmmm you have to place the film just right and get the needles as close as possible to the gauge faces. Works like a charm for me, just have to mess with it more.

Akrylic09
07-29-2008, 12:10 AM
any word on those needles you were gonna start sellin? or not yet?

Garage1217
07-29-2008, 12:40 AM
Have not received them yet, thanks for reminding me. Will contact the manufacturer today.

Garage1217
08-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Evening bump! Be sure to check out the wicked LED 194/168 dome light bulbs on the webstore! The light dispersion & brightness is wicked & they are RELIABLE!

g_what
08-07-2008, 04:42 PM
bump because i can. and im debating whether or not to do gauge led swaps

Akrylic09
08-07-2008, 05:04 PM
Hey jeremy,

have you done the swaps on the xB2 yet?

Garage1217
08-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Yes I have, they require a new gauge face & needles if you if you want any other color than LED red "stock is an amber / orange, and at the current price of gauge faces from another company, I just do not see it as a good solution cash wise.

If you would like the cluster red, turns out amazing :)

Akrylic09
08-07-2008, 05:26 PM
so taking the needles apart like the tC's is not an option? its cause my gf wants a white leds with a white guage face so its not amber and pink needles.....and my concern was if i swapped it to white, would i need to swap out the resistors like on the tC?....

Garage1217
08-07-2008, 05:27 PM
The needles are tinted red so it would not be possible to swap them like the tC. I have a manufacturer building needles for me to replace the oem, but still waiting for them.

Garage1217
08-18-2008, 10:55 PM
Monday stinks bump :(

Garage1217
08-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Tuesday bump!

izedaman
08-26-2008, 07:32 PM
Did you shoot me some red? im ready to solder some more fleas to my car >=) and is there a diy for the polorized fim? Looked like I could peel off the front or the back, and i didnt wanna dork it up. Looks good without it too so not sure if ill do it now

izedaman
08-26-2008, 07:45 PM
and how much/ hard/ is there a diy for the steering wheel light?

SquallLHeart
08-26-2008, 08:08 PM
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=91321

izedaman
08-26-2008, 08:20 PM
looks like cake compared to the rest of the swap., I hope i got enuf spare led >=)
Thanks for link

Garage1217
08-26-2008, 09:29 PM
Just be carefull, the leds are glued to the board, you have to pry up on them to get them to release and many rip a trace when doing so. Also be sure to scrape off the black center plastic.

tCrollin08
08-27-2008, 07:33 PM
The 3 leds that light both defrost buttons, and the mode button don't work. I checked everything but they still wont light up. I had the middle one reversed at first, after a couple of months I finally noticed it was switched and thought I found my problem. But that didn't do it. Any thoughts??


2007 HVAC UNIT FRONT
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2007HVACFRONT.jpg
2007 HVAC UNIT REAR
http://www.garage1217.com/1217DIAGS/2007HVACREAR.jpg[/b][/size][/quote]

Akrylic09
08-27-2008, 07:44 PM
The 3 leds that light both defrost buttons, and the mode button don't work. I checked everything but they still wont light up. I had the middle one reversed at first, after a couple of months I finally noticed it was switched and thought I found my problem. But that didn't do it. Any thoughts??




idk....it could always be a bad led....i noticed that when i did my Cluster and HVAC, there was always one "bad" on in the bunch....once i swapped it out it worked perfectly.

tCrollin08
08-27-2008, 08:11 PM
Could it be just one of the LEDs are bad causing a break in the circuit, so none of the 3 work? Hope that's it. I just finally got my lcd screen swapped for a non cracked one..its great. Now just gota get those 3 working

Garage1217
08-27-2008, 08:36 PM
99.999% of the time leds are damaged in install, not really dead out of the package, in the last oh... 2000+ leds I have soldered, I have not had one that was dead out of a reel.

My guess is an led was overheated upon install, or one of the resistors going to that particular string is not making good contact. No idea really unless I can see it in person.

You are welcome to send it in. If it is simple to fix the issue, then just pay for return shipping.

izedaman
08-29-2008, 10:49 PM
Finally finished, now where can i find a servo for the fuel gague, its not working too good anymore >=/

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u106/izedaman/0829081631.jpg[/img]

Guanato
08-30-2008, 01:57 AM
that looks good

izedaman
08-30-2008, 11:08 PM
Thanks, I still need a fuel servo, any idea, or do i need to start calling some junk yards?

Garage1217
09-08-2008, 05:18 PM
I may have a spare cluster from a loca. I will ask him if he is scrapping it. I can pull a servo off if one of yours got nuked.

izedaman
09-08-2008, 09:40 PM
ledmod had a spare one he shippin out to me, thanks tho

Garage1217
09-08-2008, 09:45 PM
Right on, glad you are set.

Garage1217
09-14-2008, 02:19 AM
Saturday night bump!

izedaman
09-16-2008, 12:39 PM
Yea I got the gas gauge working properly!! Now if I could only get gas to make sure it goes to full.... everyone still sold out like no tomorrow >=(

trrocks03
09-18-2008, 08:51 PM
So I got my LEDs and I am about to dig into this project. However, I have some questions for anyone who is willing to answer:

A) What do I need to be aware of with regards to "if you do this, you will break everything"? Heating? Melting? Alignment? Anything?

B) Is there any cheap electronics equipment anyone recommends practicing on first? Old alarm clock, etc?

izedaman
09-19-2008, 01:31 AM
Take your time, use common sence.. it takes about a second to solder a connection or desolder when you make contact. the hardest part for me was making sure i didnt loose an led or resistor when i took it out of the package.
use some good tweesers makes sure they all sit flat when you solder.
For the LCD if you are removeing that go get the iron with the rubber bulb to de solder they are not expensive and will save you a ton of time and will be much cleaner

trrocks03
09-19-2008, 06:44 PM
so you are suggesting getting both a soldering and a desoldering iron?

izedaman
09-20-2008, 12:58 AM
yup there not real expensive, 15-20 bucks. Might be able to swap the tip on the desoldering ones from rat shack

mdntblu
09-21-2008, 09:22 PM
What LED's are needed to change out the color in a Pioneer tc stock head unit?
Picture here: http://www.bmajr.com/downloads/scion_pioneer.jpg

I took the face off and they were not PLCC-2 LED's. They were really tiny.
Would like to do Pink for a girl if possible.

Thanks

impackt
09-21-2008, 09:29 PM
thanks for this DIY

Garage1217
09-22-2008, 04:10 AM
You need 0603 leds & about 40 of them.

http://store.garage1217.com/0603-sized-0603.html

mdntblu
09-22-2008, 07:27 AM
You need 0603 leds & about 40 of them.

http://store.garage1217.com/0603-sized-0603.html

I just bought some stuff from him but do you know if pink ones are available?

I put PLCC-2 Pink leds on all the other parts of the car and she wants the radio done as well.

Thanks