View Full Version : what is legal in california?


kapo
01-07-2007, 05:06 AM
I need to know which "power" mod are legal in California. Cold air intakes? Short rams? Intakes?

Thanks!!

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 05:08 AM
no intake is carb legal... hmm.. i think all headers aren't carb legal..

most exhausts are legal.. but big flashy ones will still attract cops...

hmm... TRD S/C.. pretty much one of very few power mods that are legal in cali.

eston
01-07-2007, 05:08 AM
It needs to be CARB exempt, I believe. Check for things with CARB certification numbers.

2fast4you
01-07-2007, 07:39 AM
Some headers and intakes are legal for the xA/xB, but there are none for the tC. Check -->HERE (http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php)<-- for the latest CARB exemptions.

SwtC44
01-07-2007, 07:46 AM
so here is a question to go along with this topic, if i got some headers with the oxygen sensor in it, would it pass smog?

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 07:57 AM
you need a cat... which aftermarket headers don't have..

(i think except one that actually has it... but even then... cops wouldn't probably care if they see it as not stock..)

hmm... the car needs an o2 sensor..... it never not had one and you install it in aftermarket headers..

OldYeller
01-07-2007, 08:17 AM
The XB has many Carb Legal intakes and there is a AEM header that is legal. There is a legal AEM header for the Xa that was under development last year. The tC is a whole different story--No legal Carb intakes or headers available.

rvpps2rocks
01-07-2007, 08:22 AM
LOL in california nothing is legal...so good luck just dont get pulled over and you wont have any problems with legality issues with aftermarket engine mods

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 08:40 AM
The XB has many Carb Legal intakes and there is a AEM header that is legal. There is a legal AEM header for the Xa that was under development last year. The tC is a whole different story--No legal Carb intakes or headers available.
that applies only to '05 xB/xA's and below.

for the '06's and above... they added that same charcoal filter that they have in the tCs...
pretty much making no CARB legal intakes for those vehicles too for the same exact reason.

matt
01-07-2007, 09:29 AM
actually AEM makes a cai that is CARB exempt. it has an executive order number on it. look at aempower.com.

how much power it makes is a different story... in fact it probably robs you of power lol

as for headers on a tc, big negative on CARB approval. anything that tampers with emmissions equipment is not california street legal.

there is another way of dealing with this. its not illegal unless u get caught.

spECIal
01-07-2007, 05:28 PM
your best bet will be to move outta cali :P

SquallLHeart
01-07-2007, 05:37 PM
actually AEM makes a cai that is CARB exempt. it has an executive order number on it. look at aempower.com.
if you can get the number.... or get a screenshot of it.... i'd like to see the proof.

from what i saw on the aem website awhile back.... a big fat NO on the 50 state approval mark.

probably why it's a bit difficult to even look up the intake for a scion tC on the website now.. hmm? yea... that's right.

2fast4you
01-07-2007, 05:56 PM
actually AEM makes a cai that is CARB exempt. it has an executive order number on it. look at aempower.com.

The California Air Resources Board has not issued a CARB EO# for any cold air intake for the tC as of Jan. 3, 2007
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php

Kilo6_one
01-07-2007, 06:00 PM
buy a vehicle code book, its your best resource in what you can and cannot moddify your car.

2fast4you
01-07-2007, 06:30 PM
^^ Or you can bookmark the following links:

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html <-- A brief overview of what is street legal, including references to the Vehicle Code

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vc.htm <-- Where you can look up the full text of the Vehicle Code

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php <-- A monthly update of what is CARB exempt

[These links should be a sticky]

tikbhoy
01-07-2007, 07:28 PM
even if your parts are carb exempt, i can almost guarantee that the cop will get you for something else.

just mod the way you want it, where it doesnt attract attention. shiny angled exhaust is asking for it. stickers are the same. big push cart wings are the same.

as far as smog, theres always a way, as long as your wallet is open to it.

stillmatic
01-07-2007, 10:41 PM
You can make any car with whatever modifications C.A.R.B. exempt for life in California. No state ref BS when you get pulled over. Do a google search on C.A.R.B. exempt or go to a real tuner board to find out how. It's all legit and you even get a C.A.R.B exempt certificate.

2fast4you
01-07-2007, 10:48 PM
You can make any car with whatever modifications C.A.R.B. exempt for life in California. No state ref BS when you get pulled over. Do a google search on C.A.R.B. exempt or go to a real tuner board to find out how. It's all legit and you even get a C.A.R.B exempt certificate.

I have a difficult time believing that, do you have a link? Because a Google search turns up nothing.

stillmatic
01-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Well, it's not my job to make a believer out of people. Keep searching or go to a tuner board and search.

Here's how the certificate looks like:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/enoyskt/white%20eg/test11copy.jpg

2fast4you
01-07-2007, 11:08 PM
Well, it's not my job to make a believer out of people.

No, but you brought it up, so post a link please. That cert you posted doesn't explain the circumstances behind it. For example: you can CARB exempt a car if it purchased out-of-state without CA emissions equipment.

Now, unless you are referring to converting a car to run on alternative fuel (LNG, LG, etc.), it can be done that way, but will cost you waaaaay more than it worth.

stillmatic
01-08-2007, 12:59 AM
No, but you brought it up, so post a link please. That cert you posted doesn't explain the circumstances behind it. For example: you can CARB exempt a car if it purchased out-of-state without CA emissions equipment.

No, you can't. Might wanna check the DMV on that again.

Now, unless you are referring to converting a car to run on alternative fuel (LNG, LG, etc.), it can be done that way, but will cost you waaaaay more than it worth.

There you go. But it's not as expensive as you think. There's a guy that has a shop in norcal and socal that will help you through everything for STUPID CHEAP.

SEARCH cause' I'm not posting the link on here. This guy is on a lot of tuner boards and he's helped a lot of people register their JDM and motor swapped cars.

2fast4you
01-08-2007, 02:22 AM
No, you can't. Might wanna check the DMV on that again.

I don't need to, I owned an out-of-state car and had to pay a high polluter fee. But that was before the law changed a few years ago.

As far as converting a car to CNG/LNG for "stupid cheap", all you need is to get busted by CHP committing fraud one time for it to become stupid expensive no matter who many smog exemption certs you pull out of the glove box.

stillmatic
01-08-2007, 04:03 AM
No, you can't. Might wanna check the DMV on that again.

I don't need to, I owned an out-of-state car and had to pay a high polluter fee. But that was before the law changed a few years ago.

As far as converting a car to CNG/LNG for "stupid cheap", all you need is to get busted by CHP committing fraud one time for it to become stupid expensive no matter who many smog exemption certs you pull out of the glove box.

The smog laws in Cali change like Russian Roulette. What you could do before most likely you can't do now. I currently own an out of state car with a motor swap and I've done my research on present DMV regulations of registering an out of state vehicle.

You always have to take full responsiblity of what you do with your car no matter the circumstance. You would have to be doing some real stupid ____ or acting like a ___ for a CHP officer to give you a hard time with a smog exempt car.

Most people who've gone the smog exempt route have mods that make their cars impossible to pass the sniffer/visual test. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who just have the typical bolt-ons. The reason why I refuse to post the link on here is because I don't want people to abuse the system and ruin it for those that really need to make their car smog exempt.

teabox
01-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Ok from what I understand, all 06's have that carbon thingy for the airbox. If the Injen intake is Carb exempt for the 04's, what about the 05's. I have an 05 box and it looks like the 05's are on the borderline. I want an intake that is carb, but injen isn't exempt for that year according to the website.

OldYeller
01-09-2007, 09:08 AM
I have the official Toyota part AEM intake on my 05. It is CARB legal and has the sticker attached. You might want to check with Injen. They may have not updated their website. There is no reason that the 05 would not be legal except that they may have not don the paperwork with the state.

teabox
01-12-2007, 02:19 AM
I have the official Toyota part AEM intake on my 05. It is CARB legal and has the sticker attached. You might want to check with Injen. They may have not updated their website. There is no reason that the 05 would not be legal except that they may have not don the paperwork with the state.

Then I think that is why it isn't carb legal..........YET, lol. I'll email them to see what is up, unless there is anyone with a 05 xB with the injen SRI

SquallLHeart
01-12-2007, 02:51 AM
even if you have the intake that's CARB legal for the '05s and below (i'm sure '05 was the border before they added the charcoal filter) and put it in an '06... it's NOT legal.

check your stock airbox if there's the charcoal filter.. if there is... there won't be a single CAI for your car that's CARB exempt

otherwise, it should be fine.