Veilside said the 04/05 bB and xB have different bumpers, and that if we were to use a bB body kit...we would need to modify it quite a bit to work with the xB. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

pm bbist for that info, but I'm sure they are different. :P

well 1st of all, the bB has a space in the bumper for the license plate, since their plates aren't mounted in the hatch, which means for a clean install, you'd either need to shave the hatch, or shave the new bumper.

Also, there's 2 differen't bumper widths. Some of the years of the bBs work ok, some are wider than our xBs...i'm sure someone knows more about this and can elaborate more on this.

1st gen bB's have an overall shorter length. THe front bumper on the 2nd gen car is 6mm longer the previous. this is to clear the bumper support and make for better aerodynamics. The rear bumper is obvious. the Veilside kit was originally designed for the 1st gen bB. Do some more research and you'll find way cooler kits for the new car.

JDMJim

You can, however, make it fit by taking out the bumper bar. It removes a critical safety feature but looks pretty damned good.

dang we need more kits for our xb's........

You can, however, make it fit by taking out the bumper bar. It removes a critical safety feature but looks pretty damned good. .........if you want to die......hahah......

Yeah, it's one of those "it looks cool" versus "you're going to die" things. It's like aftermarket steering wheels without air bags or something like that.

yes i just picked up a veilside kit for my xb and the fitment is great except for the rear which is obviously designed for the bb and not the xb but with a lil bit of mod it will work out if any one else has dealt with this i would love to hear about it and see it in pics if they have

sweet James.

I ordered my kit directly from veilside this past may, and it just got here this past september, I also ordered the jdm 1st gen bB upper front and rear bumpers, which have now arrived on shore in CA and I'm awaiting them to get freighted here in VA. Unfortunately I'm out of money for the time being, so I can't get the kit installed, as well I haven't decided whether to shave the hatch, order a jdm hatch, or I saw someone with a carbon fiber 1st gen style hatch for sale and might hunt that down.
Anyone have any suggestions?

i had to remove my front and rear bumper bar to install my fabulous kit. :doh:
i work at lexus and i asked some of the tech's and they told me that that bar dosn't realy do that much in an accident. :nails: but dont take my word for it remove it at your own risk. :no:

Yes, i've already looked into their lip kit because i want it. It requires significant modification to the xb in order to force fit it, part of the reason no one really has it on the xb. You wouldn't have to shave the hatch to install the kit.

03-06 xb is all the same, you will have issues.

If its version 2 bB it should fit w/ no problems, but if its version 1, should adjustment will be needed.

hey i got it on all 4 sides and they all fit the rear was the biggest pain but it is on and fits good nice snug tight fit actually a million times better then i thought they would pics to come soon

Yeah, it's one of those "it looks cool" versus "you're going to die" things. It's like aftermarket steering wheels without air bags or something like that.

ROFL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://photobucket.com/albums/a193/20inchBOX/veilside%20body%20kit/ pics of the kit in the first stage

thats not the real veilside kit, the real kit is white with raised lettering on all parts and has their stamp on the backs. Fitment looks really good though.

Actually, Veilside isn't printed on every single part with rasied lettering unless you are talking about the logo. In which you are right, but i believe the logo is hidden on the bottom of the parts except for the rear bumper.

But that isn't a true veilside kit, at least in detail it looks nothing like the one for the bB. Its probably a knock off for the Xb made to look like it. It looks pretty good though if you painted it, and from the pictures when blown up a little it looks like you still are suffering through some crazy fitment problems still around the wheels and places on the front.

http://www.veilside.com/veilsideusa/aero/toyo/bB.htm#

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/20inchBOX/veilside%20body%20kit/100_1617.jpg

Top one is the veilside kit, bottom one is your picture. Your kit might be real, but it looks like theres some differences in the front bumper area. Where did you buy it from?

for the veilside bb kit, there is a raised "veilside" logo on the center of the front bumper, on the rear of the side skirts, and on the bottom of the rear bumper and on the spoiler on the bottom of the rear. And on my kit they have stamped (just inlayed ink I guess) Veilside, and some other company information on the backside of the front bumper, sideskirts, and rear bumper.

When the weather clears around here, I can post pics of the real kit uninstalled if anyone wishes to see them

for the veilside bb kit, there is a raised "veilside" logo on the center of the front bumper, on the rear of the side skirts, and on the bottom of the rear bumper and on the spoiler on the bottom of the rear. And on my kit they have stamped (just inlayed ink I guess) Veilside, and some other company information on the backside of the front bumper, sideskirts, and rear bumper.

When the weather clears around here, I can post pics of the real kit uninstalled if anyone wishes to see them

I want to see it installed, and where did you buy it from? I didn't think they put veilside logos on each part that many times, because when a friend of mine bought his kit (direct from veilside) they put the veilside logo on the bottom of all, then a raised logo on the rear bumper where licence plate goes.

I bought my kit directly from veilside, Ray told me cause of the modification and the wait on the kit that no one really ever ordered it and that only 3 or 4 kits have come in the country so far and he believed they went to a shop. I can take multiple pics of my kit but, until I have the money to install it it's gotta sit in storage :(

wow real or fake it doesnt matter did i say i had a actual veilside kit from japan??? i dont remember saying i did but to most of the scion life losers that sit at home and harp on peoples posts i guess it does matter and to the official veilside kit owners who cares mine is on the car and the pics were taken a few hours after it was put on and as for the fitment issues you may have mentioned about the wheel well fitment maybe you should look further into the topic and find out more about the xb because it is on 20's and daily driven unlike most of the losers that post crap about other peoples rides and are driving true garbage excuse me for not buying a jdm veilside kit that doesnt fit but if i wanted a real bb veilside kit i guess i would have bought a real bb not a xb with bb badges and a few jdm pieces and running all over this forum saying im vip and crap like that grow up

wow real or fake it doesnt matter did i say i had a actual veilside kit from japan??? i dont remember saying i did

o really??

yes i just picked up a veilside kit for my xb and the fitment is great except for the rear which is obviously designed for the bb and not the xb but with a lil bit of mod it will work out if any one else has dealt with this i would love to hear about it and see it in pics if they have

so technically, since it is not THE veilside kit its not a veilside kit. i believe you have the AIT racing veilside STYLE kit which is really designed for the scion xb not toyota bb. the reason why the rear bumper doesnt fit perfectly is not because its "obviously designed" for the toyota bb, its because its a cheaper kind of body kit. as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. :lalala:

wow real or fake it doesnt matter did i say i had a actual veilside kit from japan??? i dont remember saying i did but to most of the scion life losers that sit at home and harp on peoples posts i guess it does matter and to the official veilside kit owners who cares mine is on the car and the pics were taken a few hours after it was put on and as for the fitment issues you may have mentioned about the wheel well fitment maybe you should look further into the topic and find out more about the xb because it is on 20's and daily driven unlike most of the losers that post crap about other peoples rides and are driving true garbage excuse me for not buying a jdm veilside kit that doesnt fit but if i wanted a real bb veilside kit i guess i would have bought a real bb not a xb with bb badges and a few jdm pieces and running all over this forum saying im vip and crap like that grow up

:blah:

nobody said anything negetive about you so you dont have to take it out on anyone.

seems to me like somebody else needs to grow up. :silly:


ok lets get back on topic!

slowwhitebox... can i see some pics of the kit uninstalled? i've wanted this kit for a long time now and i am willing to get the bodywork done. do you know how much extra $ it would cost for the extra body work?

wow real or fake it doesnt matter did i say i had a actual veilside kit from japan??? i dont remember saying i did

o really??

yes i just picked up a veilside kit for my xb and the fitment is great except for the rear which is obviously designed for the bb and not the xb but with a lil bit of mod it will work out if any one else has dealt with this i would love to hear about it and see it in pics if they have

so technically, since it is not THE veilside kit its not a veilside kit. i believe you have the AIT racing veilside STYLE kit which is really designed for the scion xb not toyota bb. the reason why the rear bumper doesnt fit perfectly is not because its "obviously designed" for the toyota bb, its because its a cheaper kind of body kit. as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. :lalala:

wow real or fake it doesnt matter did i say i had a actual veilside kit from japan??? i dont remember saying i did but to most of the scion life losers that sit at home and harp on peoples posts i guess it does matter and to the official veilside kit owners who cares mine is on the car and the pics were taken a few hours after it was put on and as for the fitment issues you may have mentioned about the wheel well fitment maybe you should look further into the topic and find out more about the xb because it is on 20's and daily driven unlike most of the losers that post crap about other peoples rides and are driving true garbage excuse me for not buying a jdm veilside kit that doesnt fit but if i wanted a real bb veilside kit i guess i would have bought a real bb not a xb with bb badges and a few jdm pieces and running all over this forum saying im vip and crap like that grow up

:blah:

nobody said anything negetive about you so you dont have to take it out on anyone.

seems to me like somebody else needs to grow up. :silly:


ok lets get back on topic!

slowwhitebox... can i see some pics of the kit uninstalled? i've wanted this kit for a long time now and i am willing to get the bodywork done. do you know how much extra $ it would cost for the extra body work?

:rofl: :rofl: :clap: :clap:

DOH!!!!!!!

i liek your star wars graphics bro

It's still rainy around here right now, but as soon as it clears up I'll take some pics, I originally went to a body shop in the Virginia Beach area and getting the kit painted fitted and molded on they said it would be around $1500, Then Ray from VS mentioned someone to hook me up with JDM parts. I spoke with this guy and he grabbed the bB 1st gen bumpers for me and they're being freighted here now. The bumpers extra cost was $1000, but they do come prepainted in my scions color, so I would assume the perfect fitment of these pieces would lower the price at the shop, as well as make the kit look cleaner, but I have not gone back for a quote yet since I'm low on money for the time being.

20inchBOX, I in no means ment to offend you if I did, i just assumed from your post you had the original kit and was curious of how it looked since I'm still waiting to put mine on. I've also never claimed to be VIP, my car is my daily driver, and soon I will have no badges on my car scion or bB, just a blue veilside rock emblem on the front in the middle of my upper grille.

not to bring up dead post, but i have a second gen JDM bB rear lip and had no problems fitting that besides moving exhaust :lalala:

if you can, just try to find a second gen kit (this is to anyone, not particular) and you should have little to no problems.

scott

here are pics of the real veilside kit

front bumper
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/239/frontbumper9fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

close up of front with raised lettering

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/4706/frontbumperraisedlettering6tl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

veilside authenticity stamp on front bumper

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/910/frontbumperstamp4wi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rear bumper

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/6527/rearbumper7ma.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/2350/rearspoilerraised0bs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/1319/rearraisedletteringandstamp8ey.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

side skirt

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/5331/sideskirt3xf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/9754/sidskirtraisedlettering0hl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/8628/sideskirtstamp8fj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and a close up of one of the veilside stamps

http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/9931/veilsidestamp9ir.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

if anyone has anymore questions i'd be more than happy to try to answer them.

:love: :bow:

^ ^

Now that looks more like it. Have you tried test fitting yet or just going to wait?

just gonna wait till I have the cash to throw it on, as soon as my 1st gen bumpers get here (crossing my fingers it'll be the beginning of this week) I'm going to see how the kit aligns with those. Will take more pics when they get here if anyones interested.

it shouldnt be that part overall to get it on if you got the gen 1 bumpers and can do some wrenching.

overaell opinion: that kit is ugly as sin IMHO, and I think the rear needs to be trashed . bleh. id love to see it though to see if yours turns out any good. yours would be the first and only i think!

scott

scott

it shouldnt be that part overall to get it on if you got the gen 1 bumpers and can do some wrenching.

overaell opinion: that kit is ugly as sin IMHO, and I think the rear needs to be trashed . bleh. id love to see it though to see if yours turns out any good. yours would be the first and only i think!

scott

scott

Most kits don't look that great until its on the car and painted if you think about it. This should turn out great providing whoever installs does it correctly.

i'm sorry but it may be real and all but having the name on the pieces is TACKY as all hell.