Okay, i challenge everyone to, next fill up, set the trip meter, and until you refill, try and get the BEST gas economy you can. Do anything you can, coast, drive 55 on the highway, anything... and then post it here! i recently went out and tried it pretty loosely, and i got 32mpg 1/2 city 1/2 highway! if i really get into it, i can probably get a good 35 like they say on the sticker!

anyways, i hope to see some sweet mpg's posted :)

I got 32 mpg going 80 miles an hour up and down the mountain passes with the A/C on....but I used premium,lol. (I did get 32 tho, and prolly averaged over 80)

700lbBench thats some pretty good milage......location?

I live in Olympia, Wa....but the trip was over the mountains in Eastern Washington. The Box was pretty much loaded with stuff too.

draft an 18 wheeler and hope the truck doesn't kick up rocks that'll chip your hood/bumper...

someone ought to strip their car of ac and power steering and the interior as well. drive w/o a spare, close the windows, drive in freezing air, go on a diet, draft an 18 wheeler, and run the car lean with an s-afc.

can't forget stripping the paint off as a weight reduction! :lol:

My record is 42 MPG. That meant NO reving over 3500 RPM and keeping the max speed under 65. Only did it for 1 tank, couldn't take it any longer!

This reminds me of an old movie. The star's neighbor was obsessed with his gas mileage. So every night the star would sneak over and put more gas in the neighbor's car. The neighbor was really excided as his mileage went up and up. Then the star started syphoning gas instead of adding it, and the neighbor panicked as his mileage dropped and dropped and dropped.

kind of off topic, my dad got about 50+ mpg in a early dodge omni 5 spd this was about 15 or more years ago, when gas prices was all cheap 'n' stuff he filled up twice cause he only bought 1.50 worth of gas, he'll get up to speed shut the engine off and coast to the light when about gets to the stop he'll start it up again, with out the use of the starter!!! and then the company took that car away from him and they gave him an auto :|

I know this does not help any one with scions, but my current 1996 Corsica with a 3.1L V6 & 4spd auto I was able to get 33mpg with that thing & thats my average. So if I can manage to get 33mpg with a V6 thats a little over 2 times the size of the xA & xB engine then you guys should be able to hit at least that. Also my car weighs in at 3120Lbs with me in it.

kind of off topic, my dad got about 50+ mpg in a early dodge omni 5 spd this was about 15 or more years ago, when gas prices was all cheap 'n' stuff he filled up twice cause he only bought 1.50 worth of gas, he'll get up to speed shut the engine off and coast to the light when about gets to the stop he'll start it up again, with out the use of the starter!!! and then the company took that car away from him and they gave him an auto :|


how did he restart without the starter!?

my best ever is 28 :lol:

kind of off topic, my dad got about 50+ mpg in a early dodge omni 5 spd this was about 15 or more years ago, when gas prices was all cheap 'n' stuff he filled up twice cause he only bought 1.50 worth of gas, he'll get up to speed shut the engine off and coast to the light when about gets to the stop he'll start it up again, with out the use of the starter!!! and then the company took that car away from him and they gave him an auto :|


how did he restart without the starter!?

If its a manual you just pop the clutch.

ohh, you have it set on "on" and then pop, does that mess up the clutch plates at all?

Hmm. Last night I checked the notebook I keep in the car for recording gas & miles. I've put almost 2300 miles on my xB, and overall I've gotten 34.4 MPG. Not doing anything special, but most (easliy 95%) of my driving has been on the highway.

I live in Olympia, Wa....but the trip was over the mountains in Eastern Washington. The Box was pretty much loaded with stuff too.

700lbBench,

How did your xB handle the mountain pass while it was loaded down with gear. I live near Oly too, and am making a trip to Sun Lakes this weekend and am curious as to how my xB will do. I'll be carrying a total of 3 people and camping gear. I hope I will be able to do at least the speed limit over Snoqualmie Pass.

BTW my record so far is 34MPG with intermitten use of A/C.

I was reading in Car and Driver where they ran an Echo (which should be pretty similar to a Scion) against a Civic Hybrid, a Prius, and a Jetta TDI for mileage... the Echo did pretty well against the other two, although it did average 14 mpg at the track... and considering the fact that I usually have to keep revs within 1000 rpm's of redline, and have the throttle floored more often than not, I'd wager that, with an xA or xB, I'd probably average right around 20 mpg... probably dip under 20 on good days.

87 corolla=ae86 chassis? anyways, i think its funny that everyone getting these good gas mileage reading, are all out of california :P

87 corolla=ae86 chassis? anyways, i think its funny that everyone getting these good gas mileage reading, are all out of california :P

i was about to say the same thing. i'm getting about 30-31. 1/2 freeway and 1/2 streets. i use slow take offs too. i also try my best to stay under 70mph. its hard though everyone drives 80-90 on the freeways.

Are you guys filling up when the "FUEL LIGHT" comes on? How many miles do you have once the light comes on?

Still over half a tank left and I'm at 150 miles and counting :lol:

one of the mechanics at my dealership told me that the manual says it's a good idea to keep at least a 1/4 tank of gas in at all times, and you shouldn't let it drop below that without filling it.

LoL, the best I've gotten when the fuel light comes on was about 270 ... but when half tank I usually are at 150+, dunno how when the fuel light comes on it doesn't reach 300 :?: .... coz' my old crappy nissian santra does...
dun wait till the fuel light comes on to fill it up or wait till the light comes on to fill it up, ... which way is really the correct way? I've heard both and both sides have their own supporting theory.... or are they all just myths????

I ran 280 miles on a full tank, which is up from the 250 miles before my mods. :shock:

Funny thing is...when I was on empty, the needle buried in "E", I filled up and my tank over flowed when the pump hit 9 gallons???

Go figure that one, I couldn't.

I am amazed by these responses...the best I have been able to get is about 32 and that was before the cool air intake. Since I added the cai, it has dropped to 28.

Should I be using a differnt grade of fuel?

I traded in a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport to get the xA primarily for the mpgs. The first few tanks, I was getting 32, but as time has gone by... I've just gotten over 3000 miles, I've been pretty steady at 35mpg on my normal commute to Memphis. I typically get 320 miles before the fuel light starts blinking.

I checked the owners manual and the tank is 11.9 gallons. I haveyet to put more than 10 gallons in it when empty, so my guess is that you have 2 gallons of reserve once the light starts blinking, which is plenty of time to find a gas station and plenty of fuel to keep the fuel pump happy.

In my effort to increase the mpgs, I've purchased a couple of products. They aren't in yet, but I'll be sure to check in again after installing them.

Tornado Air Management System http://www.tornadoair.com/
Electronic Engine Ionizer http://www.ionizerhouston.com/

I live in Olympia, Wa....but the trip was over the mountains in Eastern Washington. The Box was pretty much loaded with stuff too.

700lbBench,

How did your xB handle the mountain pass while it was loaded down with gear. I live near Oly too, and am making a trip to Sun Lakes this weekend and am curious as to how my xB will do. I'll be carrying a total of 3 people and camping gear. I hope I will be able to do at least the speed limit over Snoqualmie Pass.

BTW my record so far is 34MPG with intermitten use of A/C.


That is where we went...Sun lakes!!!! We go every year. We had me (I am three hundred lbs....hence the name 700lb Bench cuz thats what I bench,lol) my 80lb dog, my 7 month pregnant wife, and my 15 month old daughter, plus a bunch of odds and ends. The box did friggin great. Absolutely no problem at all.

In my effort to increase the mpgs, I've purchased a couple of products. They aren't in yet, but I'll be sure to check in again after installing them.

Tornado Air Management System http://www.tornadoair.com/
Electronic Engine Ionizer http://www.ionizerhouston.com/

I'm not sure about the xA's but the xB's don't have spark plug wires, I believe they have coil packs. Might make it kinda hard to install that Engine Ionizer..... whatever that is..

I live in Olympia, Wa....but the trip was over the mountains in Eastern Washington. The Box was pretty much loaded with stuff too.

700lbBench,

How did your xB handle the mountain pass while it was loaded down with gear. I live near Oly too, and am making a trip to Sun Lakes this weekend and am curious as to how my xB will do. I'll be carrying a total of 3 people and camping gear. I hope I will be able to do at least the speed limit over Snoqualmie Pass.

BTW my record so far is 34MPG with intermitten use of A/C.


That is where we went...Sun lakes!!!! We go every year. We had me (I am three hundred lbs....hence the name 700lb Bench cuz thats what I bench,lol) my 80lb dog, my 7 month pregnant wife, and my 15 month old daughter, plus a bunch of odds and ends. The box did friggin great. Absolutely no problem at all.

What a coincedence....

In preperation for the trip I took the xB into the Scion of Olympia dealership to have her first oil change. They were kind enough to put the Mobil 1 I bought into the box. However, they looked at me like I was crazy when they saw it only had 2000 miles on it. They had an even funnier look when I told them it was supposed to be free. They claimed they didn't know what I was talking about and then come to find out that scion will only honor the free change at 5000 mile intervals. :?:

Back to the original topic:
The last two fill-ups at the gas station I had 315 miles on the odometer before the warning light came on.

In my effort to increase the mpgs, I've purchased a couple of products. They aren't in yet, but I'll be sure to check in again after installing them.

Tornado Air Management System http://www.tornadoair.com/
Electronic Engine Ionizer http://www.ionizerhouston.com/

I'm not sure about the xA's but the xB's don't have spark plug wires, I believe they have coil packs. Might make it kinda hard to install that Engine Ionizer..... whatever that is..

Both cars use the same engine. Its a DIS system. So no plug wires in the traditonal sense.

I have 1600 miles on my 2004 Hot Lava XB, with 57% city and 43% hwy miles, I am averaging 33.82 mpg. I am surprised more are not getting over 30 mpg. I do drive it conservately though,-- no fast starts, looking to coast ahead to red lights, 55-60mph on the hwy. And I live in a flat town (Las Vegas) with lots of 45mph zones. TomSki

In my effort to increase the mpgs, I've purchased a couple of products. They aren't in yet, but I'll be sure to check in again after installing them.

Tornado Air Management System http://www.tornadoair.com/
Electronic Engine Ionizer http://www.ionizerhouston.com/

I'm not sure about the xA's but the xB's don't have spark plug wires, I believe they have coil packs. Might make it kinda hard to install that Engine Ionizer..... whatever that is..

Both cars use the same engine. Its a DIS system. So no plug wires in the traditonal sense.

I wince to hear people are trying out these gadgets on their cars, things like the tornado and ionizer and fuel line magnetizer have been around for decades, and yet they are still "back of the trade magazine" items for all they claim. I really hope they work for you, but if they do work it would be a miracle. It's like using magnetic shoe inserts, no scientific evidence of value but people accept the claims made. Toyota will sell us a CAI for several hundred bucks to boost performance a few percent, but won't sell us a $20 part that offers similar gains? Hmm...

I have 600 miles on my 05 XB. First 2 tanks have been just over 28.5 mpgs.

Should I expect an increase when this thing breaks in? When is that, just over 1,000 miles?


Please advise,

you cannot increase the efficiency of the engine by adding $20 items to the engine... your best bet is to try to increase aerodynamics... if a cheap piece of stamped tin was able to increase the gas mileage of your vehicle it would come standard on every car...

octane has absolutely no affect on gas mileage...

also, the gas tank most likely has a bladder inside of it that reduces the gas vapor... this is for emissions, but the side effect is that the bladder contracts and swells, so it is hard to know exactly your fuel capacity at any given time... but this contributes to the inaccuracy of the gas gauge and why fill ups rarely require over 10 gallons...

I have been averaging 32-33 mpg and I drive over Cajon Pass twice daily for work. I have an automatic and am amazed at the response it has in the mountains. I drive speeds between 70-80 mph. I am impressed considering I use the cheapest gas I can find.

A couple weeks ago I took a trip to NorCal, and filled up just before I entered the freeway and reset my trip meter...At the point I had to stop for my first fill up I noted I was getting somewhere between 36-39 MPG...I was on the 5 freeway at that point, halfway to Pittsburg, and driving steadily at 80mph...

On the regular streets around my house, I usually get somewhere between 32-34 MPG :D


My box is great on it's gas mileage :D

DAN

At 4500 miles I now get an average of 31 MPG on my xB
with "spirited" driving; about 2/3 city, 1/3 highway.

:wink:

i haven't been able to get over 20mpg...i get 200miles to the tank 9-10 gallons...and 180 miles to the tank with the AC on...i have an 04 xB.....are there special emissions restrictions for my state (PA) that decrease my gas mileage? I also have 2 12" subs and 1000Watt amp....im assuming this could be the culprit?

i haven't been able to get over 20mpg...i get 200miles to the tank 9-10 gallons...and 180 miles to the tank with the AC on...i have an 04 xB.....are there special emissions restrictions for my state (PA) that decrease my gas mileage? I also have 2 12" subs and 1000Watt amp....im assuming this could be the culprit?

bring that biatch in for service! if you aren't getting above 24-25 mpg, then something isn't right.

Your gas millage will be low until the engine has over 3000 miles on it.
Something about a "wear in" period for the engine.
I noticed the same thing with my xB and my friends xB.

However, we changed the oil at 1000 miles and noticed the gas millage improve slightly. Then at 3000 miles, it was a consistant 29 to 30 MPG.

:D