Well, I've had my tC since July 06 and overall its a very solid car.

I experienced the infamous hatch rattle...which was fixed by the dealer by adjusting the lock striker on the body. Now I'm scheduled to have the rear bumper repainted because the dealership yuppie who installed the TYC taillights overtightened the bumper to the body...which resultied in the paint rubbing of the edge of the bumper.

But above all, I still cannot get use to the throttle delay (it seems to act differently day to day). If the car was automatic, it wouldn't amount to much but it absolutely sucks with a manual transmission (totally screws up the ability to get the feel on the clutch and throttle).

Its a shame that the throttle isn't the good ole cable...

 

ok so......... whats your point?

 

He's thinking of selling it because of the throtle delay.

 

ok soo..... is this a rant or ... i'm failing to see the point, like why do we care?

 

lol.. ^^^ wow someone is grumpy today.

 

It's all good. Sounds like a rant to me.

 

its all right man. I get pretty annoyed with the throttle delay, but everything else about the car totally outweighs that little part. Sure, it makes it a little unpleasant to launch, but after you're moving, it doesn't really matter.

I think we've pretty much concluded the delay is due to a heavy flywheel, and not really the drive by wire system. Heavy flywheels do have their advantages, though, so who knows if I'm actually asking for a bad thing by no throttle delay.

Pretty much the only manuals I've ever driven are my car and Neothin's tC (once) as well. No experience outside of tCs unless you're talking about automatic transmissions.

 

seriously, over a throttle delay? i dont know about seeming different every day, but maybe you are over thinking it or don't have the skill to overcome it. i've established a great rythyme and just seem to hit the gas as i let the clutch in and to be honest, if some many people didn't complain about it, i wouldn't even know there was a throttle delay. you just want a reason to sell your car with some gas is greener on the other side concept. and alot of new cars are drive by wire anyway and in the near future they probably all will be except i don't know maybe jeep wranglers or something. just practice practice practice.

 

hey, I understand how you feel man. All the cars I have previously driven were all cable throttle and a lot of them were Honda's. But unless you have $$ to burn, changing to another car would cause you to lose a lot of $. There are some things you can do w/ the tC to help that delay. If you do end up getting a new car, it's most likely to be drive-by-wire anyhow like draxcaliber said. The only car that I can think of quick that has a remedy is the Impreza WRX/Sti via Cobb Tuning reflash.... and then there is of course the high performance that can have that "sport mode" button. Of course the tC doesnt have a reflash or a "sport mode" function but things can be done. Dont give up yet!

 

dont sell it

 

I've been wrenching since I was 9 and Im now 34. I have worked on many cars across the spectrum. If there was an absolute "perfect" car, well then there would be NO competition.... and everyone would have the same car. I have an 06 tC that I've made a lot of HP modifications to... and quit frankly, whether you have a heavier flywheel or not... it all comes down to learning how to drive that particular manual shift set up. It just takes practice. No two cars are going to have the same "feel" to them. And coming from an "old school" perspective the new fluid based clutch pedal setups are much more efficent than the older cable models. You dont have to worry about the stress on the system. I've personally smoked a few Mustang GT's with my 06 tC... so my adivse is dont do anything rash.... before you make the change to shelling out boatloads of cash for another ride, learn the one you have and you will see that with the right rythm you can really smoke the tires on your ride with no lag time. but as a suggestion, eventhough your tC might be newer... make sure your clutch fluid is at the right level and that you dont have any air in the system, these two things can dramatically affect your clutch response.

 

ok, noob question here, but is our clutch hydraulic or cable actuated? I've always thought it was hydraulic, but I've heard stuff of people's clutch cables messing up.

whats the real deal?

 

an answer to your question, almost all newer vehicles in the US now days are a hydraulic system. They are much better than the older cable systems. As long as they are maintained properly, they will out perform the older cable systems, and they can take a lot more pressure before something goes wrong. The ones on the tC's are hydraulic. The easy way to tell if a car has a hydraulic set up is to look under the hood. If there is a second fluid resevour ( beside the brake master cylinder) then yes, it is a hydraulic clutch set up.

 

Actually you youngins might be interested to know that hydraulic cluches have made a comeback from the good old days -- cable clutches are so '80s.

 

i would not blame him.....dbw is the stupidest invention ever
i rather have rattles than to have dbw

 

Make that the SECOND "stupidest" thing ever.