what do u guys tihnk im lookin att he vw rabbit right now i know the fule econ is down but more power and safer what do u guys tihnk?

 

common guys anything helps just any ifo you might know about it would help abunch

 

I think you asked the wrong site...

 

I briefly looked at the rabbit and then placed my order for a 06 XA (should pick it up this week). For the last 6 years I've driven a VW rabbit diesel pickup and it was a great car. The newer VW's though don't get the reliability ratings like the old VW's had. My sister bought two new VW's and had major transmission problems with both of them, a friend owns a newer golf and has had numerous electrical problems with it, my wife had a 02 Passat wagon for a while and it burned oil, drank fuel and was way over priced. The newer VW's also have a very high number of recalls and get pretty poor ratings in the reliability department compared to honda, toyota ect. in a lot of the reviews that I've read. Couple that with the higher price and worse gas milage and the scales tipped in favor of the Scion for me. I like the way the rabbit looks but will I'll stay away from VW for now. If I was going to spend that kind of money I would buy the 06 Honda Civic, My father has one and its a great car. 40mpg on the highway! Just more than I wanted to spend. The XA is a great all around car for my needs and budget.

Just my 2 cents for what its worth.

Hodakaguy

 

Personally I like the look way more but VW's aren't nearly as reliable as Toyota products. When I saw it though I was ticked that we weren't in the market for a car anymore as we had the Scion for a month...

 

after an exhuast and intake that 2.5l engine puts down another 30+ hp. its so underrated to stay out of GTI territory.

 

went do the dub dealer today complete dicks to me. i went to the scion dealer really easy going let me look no pressure. so i might get a tC any idea why the tc will cose me 400 every 6 months less than my xA?

 

VW does not have near the reliability of Scion (Toyota). The rabbit is a new car which means it will more than likely have some issues that will need to be worked out as they arise the more people buy and drive this vehicle.
Scion xA is a proven product here and in Japan.

However, with that said you need to think about style, price, driving style, resale value, how long you plan on keeping the car, and average distance driven... If all factors say that you more than likely will not totally lose your ___ on a far less superior product then go for the VW.

 

I have a GTI on order and should be here soon. I am selling the tC for it.

Here is something that some might not know. All the NEW VWs 2005 and on are VERY reliable. Heres why: VW is under a new owner/manager (whatever you want to call him) He pays all of his employees on how long a car last. For instance if you got a 2005 Jetta and it has yet to have any problems his empl oyees would get paid more, but if the car had to get dealer work done under the warranty he pays his employees less. If you ask me that is the best way to do it.

Also, what carwon 2007 Automobile of the Year???????????

A VW GTI.........

VW all the way and it kicks any Scions butt.........

 

And how do you know that they are way more reliable now? Kinda hard to tell since they haven't been out very long. I will take a "wait and see" attitude on the new reliability of VW. I just know two many people (including myself) that have had problems with new VW's and read to many negative reviews on reliability. Time will tell if they have actually improved or not. Untill then I will stick to something with a more proven track record. (Toyota, Scion, Honda) The VW dealers could also learn a thing or two about customer care. Our local VW dealer is a pain to work with, I almost hate stopping on the lot to look around. The last time I stopped and looked at a rabbit the salesman asked what other cars I was looking at. I told him the Civic and a Scion and he laughed and said "A VW is twice the car compared to a Honda or Scion", What a bunch of Bull! He'll have to practice that line on someone who doesn't know better.

A VW's kicking a Scion's butt? In what terms? In HP/Performance ? I'm sure thats true, especially a GTI. Your not really comparing apples to apples any more. I owned a BMW M Series Roadster that would easily kick a Scions butt also but thats not really a fair comparison either. In Fit and Finish? Not from what I've seen on VW's. Value/Resale? I don't think so, just look at Toyota's and Honda's resale value's compared to VW. The only VW's that resale really well are the TDI diesels and thats because you can't buy them anymore and they get great milage. I love the VW TDI engine but it's way over priced for what it is. Fuel Milage? - NOPE, unless your talking about the TDI and then your not comparing apples to apples again. Overall Value? Goes to the Scion in my opinion. I still believe that in the value for your money catagory that the Scion is hard to beat. Proven reliability, great gas milage and nicely equiped for way less money than the rabbit. But thats just my 2 cents, and you know what opinion are worth

 

all cars a reliable anymore. the JD Power surveys are such BS. Read these articles...
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1592

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1719

buy the car you like.

 

Don't do it!

 

Consumerreports.org The leading authority on consumer products. Their ratings are based on owners reports on vehicle problems. Read those articles.

 

the problem with there method is that everyone expects diff things. if you get a bigger cup of coffee in the morning then me and it doesnt fit in the cup holder you can report that as a design flaw and goes against the vehicles score. its all BS. all cars are reliable now. Go and drive them and buy the car you like the most. The diff between the best and worst car companies is like 1 problem per 100 vehicles. Read the articles.

 

Reliable for the first 30K miles or so, sure.... but go and buy a chevy aveo, Scion xA, Honda Fit.... Drive them all to 150K. The aveo probably won't last that long, and the xA and Fit will have nothing more that scheduled maintainence. All cars are not reliable!

True consumer reports methodology may not be the greatest, at least in terms of their consumer reporting, but they also do their own testing that is highly effective. Even with their consumer reporting not being extremely effective, do you really want to buy a car that the consumers have reported to be below average in mechanical quality over one they have reported hardly any problems? Only if you have the brain power of a rock perhaps.

To boot the resale value speaks volumes. Honda and Toyota keep their value because they last much longer than other brands. This makes them hot items to buy used, increasing the demand thus increasing the cost. Simple economics.

 

heh, if i was buying a V-DUB i would buy the cheapest version offered, less electrickery in that car the better, as that always goes first in VWs... then again depends what u get, my friends gti is pretty old with 90k no problems.

 

i have a friend with an aveo over 120k with no problems. same guy has a cavalier with 310k. any car that is properly maintained will last a long time.

it sounds like your one of the brainwashed ppl that thinks Toyota and Honda are the only cars worth buying.

go and drive the cars your interested in and buy the one you like the most. dont buy a car because some magazine says its good.

 

I love the way V-Dubs look and feel. But one look at Consumer Reports will send you running in the other direction.

 

about JD Power-
"The best brand, Lexus, has 0.42 problems per car, while the worst, Isuzu, has 1.10: a best-to-worst difference of 0.68 problems per car. Even this range results from a few especially low-scoring brands. The difference between number three (Toyota) and number 32 (Hummer) is a scant 0.27 problems per car. It’s ironic, since brands at the bottom of the chart receive the least attention in J.D. Power’s press releases. For years they didn’t even publicly release below-average scores. "

About Consumer Reports-
If you had any problems with your car in the last year (April 1, 2005 through March 31, 2006) that you considered SERIOUS because of cost, failure, safety or downtime, click the appropriate box(es) for each car. INCLUDE problems covered by warranty. DO NOT INCLUDE 1) problems resulting from accident damage; or 2) replacement of normal maintenance items (brake pads, batteries, mufflers) unless they were replaced much sooner or more often than expected.”

CR’s form then lists the car’s major systems, with a simple checkbox next to each. That means that multiple problems with a single system, such as ongoing hassles with a car’s electrics, count once. Equally troubling, respondents are supposed to remember a car problem that may have occurred over a year ago. They also need to remember whether incidents near the cutoff happened in March or April. Respondents that err on the safe side and report problems that might have happened within the timeframe, and do this year after year, are likely to report some problems twice.

There's an even more profound methodological iceberg dead ahead. CR’s dots signal “SERIOUS” problems [note the caps], yet never defines the term. I’ve always wondered how CR staffers decided whether a problem is “serious” enough to include in their survey. They don’t. CR’s question 13 requires that individual respondents make the call, based on “cost, failure, safety or downtime,” or other entirely subjective criteria

 

Ahaha kicks any Scions butt?? that was comedy. Yeah the GTI is nice and the Jetta GLI, and the Eos but that's pretty much it. Hmm, buy what you want. Its kinda a hard decision in my eyes.