View Full Version : AutoBlog Leaks 2008 Scion xB Photos


scionlife
01-30-2007, 03:08 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb1_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146901/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb2_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146899/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb4_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146898/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb7_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146902/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb8_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146900/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb5_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146903/)

paul34
01-30-2007, 03:28 AM
yes, and according to them, only the miami peeps know if that's the right one

so.... anyone? :D

SuperMario6582
01-30-2007, 03:30 AM
wow, kind of hard to tell but it looks pretty cool. the inside looks really cool.

eyegiantjackpot
01-30-2007, 03:31 AM
i was never really into that style of shifter..old civic si style.

wonder why the stuffs photoshopped....

interesting tho. kinda puts me at ease about buyin my car in November, knowing a new one was coming soon.

scionlife
01-30-2007, 03:35 AM
Yes, these photos are of the same vehicle that was displayed in Miami... but these photos do not appear to be taken from the Miami event.

silverevo05
01-30-2007, 03:38 AM
I'd say thats it

I saw the new xb and xd (covered in the black tarp of course) going down chapman blvd here in the city of orange CA 2 days ago. pulled up right next to it, and I was able to see the inside which looks almost exactly the same as the pics. I have a pic of it, though not the inside, as I was in traffic with my 7 yr old bro driving a manual xb and trying to hold a camera at the same time. Can anyone tell me the easiest way to upload pics.

thanks

TeeCizzle
01-30-2007, 03:44 AM
SCHWEET!,,,Its gonna be Black w/ White Glowing edges everywhere!...LOL...

Sorta look like a Honda Pilot though from the backside....

Max
01-30-2007, 03:46 AM
Can anyone tell me the easiest way to upload pics.

Go here:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60317

Or email or PM me.

onefunkyfreshdj
01-30-2007, 03:46 AM
Can anyone tell me the easiest way to upload pics. thanks

I wouldn't even bother..... they both are gonna be debuted in 10 days anyways.

Tribalboy04
01-30-2007, 03:56 AM
Can anyone tell me the easiest way to upload pics. thanks

I wouldn't even bother..... they both are gonna be debuted in 10 days anyways.

Yes, but 10 days is a long time.

scion_jon
01-30-2007, 04:04 AM
Darren you beat me to it

scion08
01-30-2007, 04:10 AM
the only thing i like with it is the interior.. hope it looks alot better than that.

Guamsilverbox671
01-30-2007, 04:28 AM
Front fender pics looks close or resembles like our current xB.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb2.jpg
Whish there was the front end pic. I'm so eager to see how my scketch look like if its close to it.

Max
01-30-2007, 04:37 AM
You can see the tall, thin grille in the bumper.

Also, you can see the 'bright' white line in the fender, this shows the line in the fenders which leads to a flattened edge in the fenders, very similar to the xA and tC.

Look at the reflector. It's the backwards 'C' cut off at about a 45. In Miami I kind of figured it was a one-off from 5Axis. I like it.

gothemi8
01-30-2007, 04:42 AM
on the interior where the radio is that whole middle section cant remeber the name of it right now but it reminds me alot of the honda element atleast the big knobs and the shifter. The hatch looks a whole lot like the gmc envoy atleast the first picture that angle just says envoy the others especially the side view not so much.

dexter_5000
01-30-2007, 04:44 AM
i was never really into that style of shifter..old civic si style.

wonder why the stuffs photoshopped....

interesting tho. kinda puts me at ease about buyin my car in November, knowing a new one was coming soon.

the shifter is was probably changed from everyone complaining about its height. they do listen to thier customers so. the redesigns could have something to do with stuff thats been brought up before.

Nathant888
01-30-2007, 05:04 AM
I wanted to see a good shot of the front end.... But the rest looks nice.

[nt]

toyotatodd
01-30-2007, 05:10 AM
Looks like my 1987 toyota van and 92 previa got it on.
How rightous it would be to purchase the off spring

Sly_dawg19
01-30-2007, 05:22 AM
im going to do an artists rendering right now, will post pic in a few minutes...

anyone have a good image storage server i can use? i only have 20k left on my scionlife one...

Guamsilverbox671
01-30-2007, 05:26 AM
Parts of the rear hatch reminds me of a Highlander.

DiStUrBeD_AzN
01-30-2007, 05:43 AM
Looks... Nice, especially the interior.

Also, it looks like a $18,000 car vs a 15 grand 103hp xB.

Sly_dawg19
01-30-2007, 06:15 AM
Here is my (SEVERELY DONE QUICKLY) artists rendering of the new 2008 Scion xB

But first the Original photo i worked with...

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb4.jpg

And now my quick cartoon render...

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/46995_6.jpg

What you guys and gals think? If it looks like that, I just might get one... (but i love xA's so much!!!)

WheelSee
01-30-2007, 06:26 AM
nice...I'm confused as to why my post was deleted but then darren posts the same thing...whatever...

I'm excited to see it...10 days issssss way to long...and I hopefully will be back into the Scion community by years end

-wC

ra24man
01-30-2007, 06:26 AM
Here is my (SEVERELY DONE QUICKLY) artists rendering of the new 2008 Scion xB

And now my quick cartoon render...

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/46995_6.jpg

What you guys and gals think? If it looks like that, I just might get one... (but i love xA's so much!!!)
I love the license plate! I understand it took you some effort to come out with that drawing... it looks like a melting stick of butter on wheels...I'll take two please :silly:

Sly_dawg19
01-30-2007, 06:49 AM
that picture i made is the product of 15 minutes of hard photoshopping and being loaded up on enchilada's

outatime is from the delorean in back to the future, as is my avatar :p

good movie, but im not UBER fan, lol i just think my avatar is funny.

lonestar
01-30-2007, 06:53 AM
Honestly, I'm pretty upset with Scion being so damn secretive. I've been a big Scion fan since the brand was announced, but the fact that they keep the community in the dark is a big turn off for me.

I realize they are trying to make money with their cars but I waited and waited for these cars and after months of getting nothing, I bought a VW. I'm happy with my car but I would have gladly waited longer if there were some initial specs released awhile back.

I'm sure that the gti and rabbit owners would have thought twice about their purchase had there been some info about the new releases before the chicago debut. I still kick myself in the ___ for not buying an xB and I now hate that I have to choose between a paid off car and possibly buying a new scion.

My point is, as much as Scion craves the younger market, they should also realize that the younger market is used to having things now and right now. They are in a heavily competive market and holding back any sort of info only hurts them by denying potential buyers from some sort of comparison with the other cars they compete with.

Rant over.

I can't wait to see the new models and then make the hard choice of buying a new car or sticking with what I've got.

OldYeller
01-30-2007, 08:05 AM
This looks like something Toyota leaked. Something to pique our interest but not spill all the beans........

TuningIsLife
01-30-2007, 08:40 AM
I agree, this was something purposely released, but masked. Almost similar to the release of the Fuse. Angle shots that give you some idea, but not fully.

The whole secretive thing is like when you were a little kid and your parents were like we are going on a drive, but they wouldn't tell you where, just that you would enjoy it. You would get so worked up thinking where it could be and then you get there and you were all like YEY!

Well kids, this is our drive.

jpauletteUSAF
01-30-2007, 09:00 AM
Man, it looks kinda FJ-ish from that rear 3/4 view.

Love the interior, though.

Big_Pimpin'
01-30-2007, 12:39 PM
Definitely "leaked" photos. Scion should come out with it, but that would not make much marketing sense. It would not create anywhere near the buzz these so-called spy shots will create. Looks nice, though. i may have to get me one of them thar Sky-Ons to replace my current xB. LOL

scion08
01-30-2007, 01:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/Pinoyfitness_com/07xb5s.jpg

took the guy off and that weird light... probably a background

WheelSee
01-30-2007, 01:20 PM
these are a little better I think...from ScionSmoke.com
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb1.jpg
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb2.jpg
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb4.jpg
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb5.jpg
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb7.jpg
http://www.scionsmoke.com/images/Images/08xb/07xb8.jpg

-wC

dziuniek
01-30-2007, 01:37 PM
Bigger Matrix with the a$$ of an xB

dasaint80
01-30-2007, 02:14 PM
what these shots remind me of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBmgmytFVU)

Subcompact Culture
01-30-2007, 02:28 PM
A lot of companies "leak" photos on purpose to generate a buzz, and I'd bet that's what Toyota has done. I'm going to withold comment until I can see a real good photo of it.

ProjectFusion
01-30-2007, 03:03 PM
I'm hoping the interior is a little bigger. At least for storage reasons. If it's what I think it might be could find me back in the Scion community.

dskinner
01-30-2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb1_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146901/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb2_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146899/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb4_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146898/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb7_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146902/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb8_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146900/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb5_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146903/)

Thanks for locking my thread so that you could post the same thing! :tap:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=159236&highlight=

I'm on Autoblog.com everyday waiting for leaked pics. Then yesturday, a series of pics was posted on the site. The first thing I did was put it on SL for all peeps to see. Then it's locked today, which is understandable, but then you post the same exact thing? Whatever, at least everyone will see them now.

whitecobra10
01-30-2007, 04:26 PM
Feb issue of Car and Driver has a front end picture of a green 08 xb if anyone is interested.

Boxman2-0
01-30-2007, 04:31 PM
^^^Upload it^^^ Also the FJ must be selling well cause the new xb looks like a MINI FJ

dskinner
01-30-2007, 04:43 PM
This is what was featured in the Feb '07 C&D:
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2006/11/coolbear_greatwall.jpg

Based off the current xB, this was shown in China by a design team and is NOT the next xB.

revheat21
01-30-2007, 05:27 PM
I noticed that in the pics there was cruise control!!! Finally!!! :clap:

midtowndesi
01-30-2007, 05:47 PM
I ____ing hate people who play games... these are obviously pics that were taken and then put through photoshop - what an _______ move on the part of the person that took the pictures.

no stress tho - we'll see it when it comes out. these spy shots were taken by a stupid spy that obviously doesnt know what spy shots are. might as well have taken a ____ing picture of a tree - either way, we still dont have a good idea of what the thing looks like.

____ed off at idiots,
- sh00k

THE_DON
01-30-2007, 05:58 PM
So it seriously has ONE offset reverse light??

I don't like that...

The back reminds me of a Chevy Trailblazer.

-THE DON

lufoxe
01-30-2007, 06:03 PM
I flippin' hate people who play games... these are obviously pics that were taken and then put through photoshop - what an butthole move on the part of the person that took the pictures.

no stress tho - we'll see it when it comes out. these spy shots were taken by a stupid spy that obviously doesnt know what spy shots are. might as well have taken a flippin' picture of a tree - either way, we still dont have a good idea of what the thing looks like.

____ed off at idiots,
- sh00k

well, as much as I'd agree with you, but the catch is if this was taken by someone other than toyota. Since it's toyota, kudos, should've released it a little sooner though. The front end I have a good idea how it looks, (or so I think from the descriptions) it was always the back and the center console that had me questioning, but absolutely awesome indeed. So, if the front is how I think, I'm gonna say good bye to the current lunchbx and get me a xB˛ (yes I am going to refer it to as xB ˛)

seattledave
01-30-2007, 06:33 PM
looks like a caravan. what made the xb different is getting watered down to look more like american minivans.

&I can't stand that stick in the middle of the dash console, that was one big reason i couldn't buy the element.

dskinner
01-30-2007, 06:51 PM
^^^ At least it's not as bad as the last-gen Civic Si:
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/HondaCivicSI/Images/Dash.jpg

Packy
01-30-2007, 06:51 PM
If the new xB ends up getting better MPG than our Fit, is around the same price, has some cool seat configurations AND has good crash test results I'd highly consider getting one. I LOVE the old-school xB and was only put off by the crash tests.

SquallLHeart
01-30-2007, 07:39 PM
I flippin' hate people who play games... these are obviously pics that were taken and then put through photoshop - what an butthole move on the part of the person that took the pictures.

no stress tho - we'll see it when it comes out. these spy shots were taken by a stupid spy that obviously doesnt know what spy shots are. might as well have taken a flippin' picture of a tree - either way, we still dont have a good idea of what the thing looks like.

____ed off at idiots,
- sh00k

well, as much as I'd agree with you, but the catch is if this was taken by someone other than toyota. Since it's toyota, kudos, should've released it a little sooner though. The front end I have a good idea how it looks, (or so I think from the descriptions) it was always the back and the center console that had me questioning, but absolutely awesome indeed. So, if the front is how I think, I'm gonna say good bye to the current lunchbx and get me a xB˛ (yes I am going to refer it to as xB ˛)
they did the photoshop filter hoping that they wouldn't get in trouble as no pictures were supposed to be taken and those who saw the cars prior to the chicago event had to sign an agreement...

somehow, obviously someone was able to take these pics.. and now has leaked them online.. thinking it'd be safe to put a filter... but nonetheless, they are still in breach of the agreement and still thus, will face consequences.

seriously... the dumbest move was taking the pictures in the first place.

Toyota and Scion has been taking care of their customers for a long time.... how stupid must one be to disrespect their wishes of wanting to wait for the Chicago Auto Show to reveal them? :tap:

i know spy spots get taken... but they went great lengths to keep the new cars underwraps for a very long time...

for someone to not be able to wait just over a week.... wow... how impatient are people?!?! by then, they wouldn't have to hide their photos behind a photoshop filter!

[/rant]

JSM1284
01-30-2007, 08:12 PM
Is there a way to reverse the filter through photoshop?

SquallLHeart
01-30-2007, 08:16 PM
no.

dgHotLava
01-30-2007, 08:24 PM
So it seriously has ONE offset reverse light??

I don't like that...

The back reminds me of a Chevy Trailblazer.

-THE DON

and the light is on the wrong side...
should be on the curb side...

seattledave
01-30-2007, 08:28 PM
People haven't been just waiting a week. If so, I could see the need to call people impatient.

While you could argue some may have been waiting to see the new one since the first xB came out, as soon as it was mentioned that the current xB is going out of production and is being replaced by "something", from that day we're all waiting. that's what a fan does. see we're interested in our cars, the brand and what new thing is on the horizon.


We all know how it works, say you're into video games, and then when the new big video game system or game is mentioned as "coming out soon" many of us don't wait until the day everyone else gets to see it at retail with everyone else before we base our decision on buying one.

noservice2001
01-30-2007, 08:45 PM
If the new xB ends up getting better MPG than our Fit, is around the same price, has some cool seat configurations AND has good crash test results I'd highly consider getting one. I LOVE the old-school xB and was only put off by the crash tests.

ur worried about safety, but you bought a Fit? wtf...

SquallLHeart
01-30-2007, 08:52 PM
it was more towards the fact that yes.. people have been waiting for a very long time..

but they couldn't wait 1 more week... was what i was more ranting about.

even after the revealing.. there's going to be alot of time still for people to make their decisions before they start distribution... so there's really still no excuse.

tCheesy
01-30-2007, 08:53 PM
I agree with TeeCizzle... the back looks like a Honda Pilot.. my mom has one.

man, what happened to the t2B?

dgHotLava
01-30-2007, 08:59 PM
man, what happened to the t2B?
hopefully it is dead...

and so should this one be...

both are hideous.

its not like the gen 1 xB, where you love it or hate it...there is no love or hate with this, just plain ugly.

Tomas
01-30-2007, 09:03 PM
Just a drawing snaffled from somewhere else and modified a bit to more fit what I remembered. Not totally accurate, but fairly close.

http://tijil.org/ScionxB2.jpg

Not that much longer until you see the real thing, folks, not long at all.

Tom

seattledave
01-30-2007, 09:12 PM
even after the revealing.. there's going to be alot of time still for people to make their decisions before they start distribution... so there's really still no excuse.

but people want the decision to buy a current gen xB or buy a new one if they are/look better. Someone posted that in my area(seattle) you are just abuot S.O.L. if you want a current gen. So the info would have been nice to prospective scion car buyers.

THE_DON
01-30-2007, 09:29 PM
From all of the pictures I've seen, it will probably be a nice car, decent price, and more horsepower than before. If I were in the market for a new car, I'd probably get one.

With that said...

I won't be running out to trade in my OG xB for one... :lalala:

-THE DON

Tomas
01-30-2007, 09:33 PM
Yes, I think they have another winner here - not quite the same 'cult following' sort of feel to the xB2, but still something that is a good, positive move into the future of Scion.

All that being said, though, I'm still much more an xB Classic sort of person. :D

Tom

cyergey
01-30-2007, 09:39 PM
All that being said, though, I'm still much more an xB Classic sort of person.

Me too. As soon as I saw the sloped C pillar in the rear picture, I realized that I am happier with my "1st Gen" xB. Long live the box!

Keitaro
01-30-2007, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't buy the 1st model year vehicle due to possible TSBs and more goodies in later model years. I had an '04 and we all knew about the A/C TSBs. I didn' mine the rattles though. Buy the 2006 xB and wait for the 2007/08 model.

BTW, the pictures were taken with consent of Toyota/Scion. It was "leaked", like what others have said, to create buzz. Looks like the picture was taken inside a garage or one of those big car-transport trucks on it's way to an auto show.

I'm not too keen on the bumper rear light. I foresee a slightly expensive rear-accident bumper repair vs. the rear light placed on the tailight cluster.

Packy
01-30-2007, 10:21 PM
If the new xB ends up getting better MPG than our Fit, is around the same price, has some cool seat configurations AND has good crash test results I'd highly consider getting one. I LOVE the old-school xB and was only put off by the crash tests.

ur worried about safety, but you bought a Fit? wtf...

5 star (out of 5) rating for front and side impact by the NHTSA. Comes standard with 6 airbags. It's unfortunate that the current xB doesn't even offer side or curtain airbags. It scored a 4 for the front and 3 for the side.

So, back to talking about the new xB. I'm sure they'll either offer side and curtain airbags or at least offer them as an option.

Guamsilverbox671
01-30-2007, 10:23 PM
So there's onlyone reverse light? Here the pic I tried to clean it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Guamsilverbox671/07xb1.jpg

Max
01-30-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah, there's only one reverse light.

CBSIMONSEZ
01-30-2007, 10:34 PM
Yes, there is only one reverse light, and its on the drivers side.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME XB2 THAT WAS IN MIAMI. The one they showed us in Miami has a 5 Axis Lip Kit ... 19 inch Volx ( in believe ) and dual exhaust. This one has a single exhaust and no lip kit.

On that color/cartoon pic. There is no rear 1/4 window. What is now a C pillar is just a large piece of sheet metal.

I did notice that the passenger rear window now has a 1/4 window in it. Again this was not on the xB2 that was on display in Miami. Either what i have heard is true; that there are at least 3 each of the xb2 & the xD made, or they have changed the one that they put on display in FL.

tyrantcold
01-30-2007, 10:54 PM
so it going to be called the xB or tB (like the virus) or something else ? I thought Scion was'nt going to use the same model name.

dgHotLava
01-30-2007, 10:55 PM
Yes, there is only one reverse light, and its on the drivers side.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME XB2 THAT WAS IN MIAMI. The one they showed us in Miami has a 5 Axis Lip Kit ... 19 inch Volx ( in believe ) and dual exhaust. This one has a single exhaust and no lip kit.

On that color/cartoon pic. There is no rear 1/4 window. What is now a C pillar is just a large piece of sheet metal.

I did notice that the passenger rear window now has a 1/4 window in it. Again this was not on the xB2 that was on display in Miami. Either what i have heard is true; that there are at least 3 each of the xb2 & the xD made, or they have changed the one that they put on display in FL.
no...these (there are two different models in the pics) are the others (or stock versions), not what was shown in miami.
no lip kit...no big wheels...no drop...no dual exhaust.

and i hate to tell you, the one in miami did have the 'vent' or 'fixed' window in the rear doors.i was mentioning how they lost the feel of the gen 1 xb...all the lines of the body and glass were parrallel.
with the slope of the roof and the lean of the c-d pillar it messed up those lines.

the fixed window is rather small compared to what the gen 1 has.

dgHotLava
01-30-2007, 11:02 PM
so it going to be called the xB or tB (like the virus) or something else ? I thought Scion was'nt going to use the same model name.
they are gonna keep the xb name around...the cult following forced this...

but the xA is getting dropped for the xD.
again this works from a marketing standpoint. the xA was a failure by scion's standards...they thought it was gonna sell twice as many as the xB's were...hahahaha

so killing the name, rather than evolving the model draws more new customers...

Grogck
01-30-2007, 11:31 PM
5 star (out of 5) rating for front and side impact by the NHTSA. Comes standard with 6 airbags. It's unfortunate that the current xB doesn't even offer side or curtain airbags. It scored a 4 for the front and 3 for the side.

That was one thing I liked about Honda over Toyota when we were shopping for our last car. They seemed to include most safety equipment standard whereas on some Toyota models and trims it was optional (and sometimes hard to find.) Package selling (Honda) vs a la carte (Toyota.) They each have their pros and cons. The latter gives more room for annoying salesman wheeling and dealing though.

I'm hoping the new XB either has side airbags standard or as an option. If it doesn't, I'll be really disappointed. Other than that though, I'm loving what I'm seeing (as I loved the T2B.) The thing I'm most curious about now will be how good the mileage is.

Sly_dawg19
01-30-2007, 11:43 PM
well then good, if toyota thinks the xA is a failure, then good :)

cause i LOVE my xa, and it makes my car more unique :)

dgHotLava
01-31-2007, 01:13 AM
well then good, if toyota thinks the xA is a failure, then good :)

cause i LOVE my xa, and it makes my car more unique :)
from a sales and marketing point...yes, the xA is a failure.

is it still a unique and great car...absolutely.

when scion was launched, they planned on selling 50,000 xA's and 25,000 xB's

then the numbers came in...25,000 xA's and 50,000 xB's were sold...

pandaslayer
01-31-2007, 02:04 AM
Such a disappointment. Hopefully the xD will actually look decent, and not retarded.

Anyone else notice the 6" wheel gap?

Tomas
01-31-2007, 02:42 AM
Scion to Reveal Two All-New 2008 Models at 2007 Chicago Auto Show
Filed under: Technology Press Releases — Press Guy @ 04:02 pm

Scion to Reveal Two All-New 2008 Models at 2007 Chicago Auto Show

Scion will stage the world premiere of the second-generation xB and the all-new xD at the 2007 Chicago Auto Show.

The Scion press conference will take place on Thursday, February 8 at 9:00 A.M. CT in the Grand Ballroom in McCormick Place, with a live simulcast to the Scion display area at the show.

Scion will also stage a simultaneous press conference in Scion City, in the virtual world “Second Life,” to introduce the computer-simulated versions of the two all-new 2008 vehicles. The virtual presentation will run parallel to the live press conference at McCormick Place. To participate in the virtual press conference, media must be a member of the Second Life community and register at http://www.scion.com/secondlifemedia by 5:00 P.M. CT on Friday, Feb. 2.

Registration for the virtual press conference will begin on Thursday, Jan. 25 and is limited to the first 500 media. Second Life registration is free and can be done at http://www.secondlife.com/. Scion City was launched in November 2006 and allows the Second Life community to test drive and purchase Scion vehicles, learn about the brand, and participate in lifestyle and owner events.

A video clip of the Chicago press conference will be available for viewing the following day on the Scion.com website.

Public Web site: http://www.scion.com/
Website: http://www.scion.com/secondlifemedia
Website: http://www.secondlife.com/
Website: http://www.scion.com/

toyotaisme
01-31-2007, 03:52 AM
this post reminds me of 2yrs a go when I posted this pictures.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/xb/hotlava.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/xb/hotlava2.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/xb/HOTLAVAFRONT.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/xb/hotlava1.jpg

this post when crazy 2yrs ago.

Scisko
01-31-2007, 04:13 AM
I saw both at Miami. They showed us modded units with 5-Axis body kits. It is hard to know what will be the final version that will make the Showroom Floor at dealers. I know that the XA was not a bad looking car (TC Owner) But the XD is freakin sweeter! I am excited to see what comes. :nails: :clap: :clap:

WhippedCRacKeR
01-31-2007, 05:02 AM
so are any of these close to the xD xB?
just curious.
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/988712/scion.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/29134/01.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/84646/scion.jpg

SactoGuy7654
01-31-2007, 05:08 AM
I still have to wonder is the new xB based on the JDM Toyota Corolla Fielder platform or is it based on the Toyota Avensis wagon platform? It appears the 2.4-liter I-4 from the Scion tC is the main engine on this car. :)

Tomas
01-31-2007, 05:13 AM
It is allegedly based on the Avensis platform...

Tom

burstaneurysm
01-31-2007, 06:18 AM
Hmm... trying to mentally reverse the photshop, it has potential. That being said, I'm glad that I bought mine when I did.

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy
01-31-2007, 06:53 AM
EWWW... i personally thing they are kinda/sorta starting to look like the JEEP ..... jeep... shiznit! i forgot the model but its the square type kinda the newer model, but yeah i think the taillights r tooo big, the interior where the shifter is looks to much like a typical VANish type like the nissan QUEST i think thats what its in, but ive seen that before, lol.. im glad i got a 1st gen :D after i pay this one off i want to buy another 1st gen, hopefully they will still be around by next year (November) or so :love: ... the new xB looks to big now, starting to look like an astro van!!! :o lol

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy
01-31-2007, 07:00 AM
Jeep COMMANDER! :P had to google it :P thats what its starting to look like in the rear at least.. not up front :P

cyergey
01-31-2007, 09:51 AM
Are WhippedCrackers pictures being blocked because they are accurate or is that a user-error in posting the pics? Thoughts? I'm able to see them by right-clicking and viewing the images on the hosting site.

Max
01-31-2007, 12:44 PM
Are WhippedCrackers pictures being blocked because they are accurate or is that a user-error in posting the pics? Thoughts? I'm able to see them by right-clicking and viewing the images on the hosting site.

It's some type of error.

toyotaisme
01-31-2007, 02:12 PM
the pics are not linking

mtxblau
01-31-2007, 02:15 PM
The new xB design is depressing. This vehicle is neither unique nor interesting to look at... it's like another SUV also ran. Why not just slap an xB tag on a Rav4?

Or better still, why not just bring the latest generation bB from Japan and rebadge it? I would love a 6 seat AWD model.

lufoxe
01-31-2007, 03:03 PM
The new xB design is depressing. This vehicle is neither unique nor interesting to look at... it's like another SUV also ran. Why not just slap an xB tag on a Rav4?

Or better still, why not just bring the latest generation bB from Japan and rebadge it? I would love a 6 seat AWD model.

o.0 6spd AWD with the 2.4 thrown into the bB or the current xB... one can dream

mtxblau
01-31-2007, 03:14 PM
o.0 6spd AWD with the 2.4 thrown into the bB or the current xB... one can dream

Well, when I had my manual xB, a sixth gear would've been nice. But I was referring to this:

http://www.leblogauto.com/images/toyota_bb_seats.jpg

http://www.leblogauto.com/2005/12/toyota_bb_nuit_.html

Edit: Though now that I'm looking at it, I guess that middle area isn't a 'legal' seat.

Sly_dawg19
01-31-2007, 03:59 PM
the middle area makes the front love seat :)

xb2 designed to bring us all together :) (wait, isnt that xbox's sloagan?)

WhippedCRacKeR
01-31-2007, 04:00 PM
sorry about the pics guys... they looked fine to me. anyway, they are at http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com just do some digging around.

evilBOXevil
01-31-2007, 06:19 PM
Reminds me of this posted pic:
http://www.scionlife.com/toyota/images/XB04.gif
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/46288_1.gif

At least the back end does anyways.

I saw the car very brielfy before. This definitely appears to be the one. The only thing I remember seeing that was different was the rear side window. It was more rounded (like the drawing above).

I still think it's got alot of VW stylizing going on...kind of a new GTI feel. The single Reverse light reminds me too much of the beetle. That's just my opinion, and alot of people will probably wonder where the hell I got that idea. That's just the vibe I got when I saw it, as I posted here: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=156073&highlight=

After getting a look at the interior pic here, it made me think: "Hmm...I didn't know that the 'Element' was a big enough contender for Toyota to want to imitate it."

It's a nice car, but I think the new xB will fare just like the new bB- It will sell decently, and it's a cool car- but it won't have the cult following of the predecessor.

BTW- There are still huge 'old' bB clubs in Japan, and alot of them don't include the new bB as part of their group.

Tomas
01-31-2007, 06:22 PM
thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com usually has their server block direct requests from other pages where their pictures have been embedded. They allow using their bandwidth to download pics if one of THEIR pages requests it, or if it is requested by a user directly, but they see no reason to pay for putting their pics on somebody else's pages.

(I don't blame them at all - people cost my little domain several hundred meg a month putting MY pics up on other people's sites.)

Tom

midtowndesi
01-31-2007, 09:16 PM
Another thing - I find it hard to believe that - with camera phones, digital cameras, etc etc - that there are no other pics of this mysterious new xB around on the web... seriously... I know people were NOT allowed to take pics but when has that stopped anyone?

If that was the case, there would be no litter and everyone would be doing 55mph on the freeways.
- sh00k

MrRadi8
01-31-2007, 09:41 PM
BTW, the pictures were taken with consent of Toyota/Scion. It was "leaked", like what others have said, to create buzz. Looks like the picture was taken inside a garage or one of those big car-transport trucks on it's way to an auto show.

Who was it that was blasting the consumers for not waiting for Scion to unveil at the appointed time/date?

Sigh.

Tomas
01-31-2007, 09:44 PM
Desi, that's why they not only had us sign non disclosure agreements before we could even enter the building (yes, we were outside the building signing them) at Miami. Then they had the first level of security screeners running wands over every one of us, confiscating devices, including even basic, non-camera cellphones before being allowed into the event area of the building. In the event area, there were a whole lot of security and other folks watching carefully the entire time - and the vehicles were only uncovered for a short time.

Pics could have been taken, but it wouldn't have been easy. There could also be legal consequences to releasing clandestine pics to the public after presenting photo ID and signing the NDA (keep in mind they already had name, address, phone, and SSN on record, and had done a check before even issuing airline tickets).

I understand that everyone with access to the vehicles is under an NDA, so it really doesn't surprise me that there have been few leaks. Not only has Scion/Toyota been good to folks, they have done a pretty decent job of saving the thunder for their OWN presentation of the vehicles in Chicago (and Second Life).

Actually, whoever took those pics and released them disappoints me. I'm pleased, though, that the leak was NOT from the Scion Miami Event!

Tom

midtowndesi
01-31-2007, 09:49 PM
Very good point but I was thinking more along the lines of, lets say, guards that worked at that miami building... or even some of the consession people if they are car enthusiasts... or even some people from the "shipping/transport" company that had access to that car, even for just a split second... Basically, people who didn't need to sign NDA's to get close to the car...

So many things go through so many different hands from point A to B, i thought that someone may have some really grainy, crappy cellphone pic to shed some light on this huge mystery ;]
- sh00k

Tomas
01-31-2007, 09:50 PM
Those pics appear to have been taken at the SEMA Measurement Day event(s) where outsiders representing the various SEMA manufacturers were allowed in to take detailed measurements of sample vehicles. There is no indication that release of those pics was in any way approved by Scion/Toyota prior to their appearing at AutoBlog.

The hint from Scion HQ is that they are pursuing that problem, but one cannot undo the release of the images to the public.

Tom

t-ak-box
01-31-2007, 09:54 PM
mtxblau wrote:
Or better still, why not just bring the latest generation bB from Japan and rebadge it? I would love a 6 seat AWD model.

I do believe that Scion will give us a street verison of t2b concept, but this is not actually that different from current JDM verison.
The Basic Differents seems to be engine, grill/headlights, taillights and interior. I totally agree with above about having the JDM interior :tap: . That's Hot!!!
I would have really loved JDM interior option and would be making a deposit at local Scion dealer. Also I believe that I read somewhere on this site[ Totally could be wrong :eyebrow: ] that new xb2 would have 2wd & 4wd.

dskinner
01-31-2007, 10:02 PM
mtxblau wrote:
Or better still, why not just bring the latest generation bB from Japan and rebadge it? I would love a 6 seat AWD model.

I do believe that Scion will give us a street verison of t2b concept, but this is not actually that different from current JDM verison.
The Basic Differents seems to be engine, grill/headlights, taillights and interior.

:question: Engine, front and rear facia, interior... So how exactly is it supposed to be like the JDM version?

Winter
01-31-2007, 10:05 PM
i'm behind on seeing these images, if thats what the newer looks like... i wont wont touch it. looks gross to me, but thats just my taste. Classic box for me...


and ealier asked "can the effects done on pictures be reversed?" the answer is yes, just gota use the right program. Photoshop isn't capable of doing it, but there is another that can. i can't remember it's name off the top of my head, a friend of mine uses it all the time. you could probably find it in circutcity or bestbuy or something i'm not sure but it's well over a grand from it.

seattledave
01-31-2007, 10:18 PM
and ealier asked "can the effects done on pictures be reversed?" the answer is yes, just gota use the right program. Photoshop isn't capable of doing it, but there is another that can. i can't remember it's name off the top of my head, a friend of mine uses it all the time. you could probably find it in circutcity or bestbuy or something i'm not sure but it's well over a grand from it.

I'm saying no, it can't be "reversed". i use pshop(well, CS2) everyday and I ran those through every filter on there. i could spend an hour or 2, redrawing the entire image to get a better idea, but you can't change something that isn't there. and cs2 is $1200, i'm not aware of any consumer based product anywhere near the price or ability of adobe's(and i was a big corel fan myself "backintheday"...well late 90s)

Prove me wrong.

btw, "a friend of mine" can stop the space/time continuum.

Winter
01-31-2007, 10:27 PM
no need to be a dick, i'm saying what i saw and it is possible.

as you said spending a couple hours to re-render. all you need to do is reajust the image so that what exsists makes up the actualy shapes and objects just as the images that were posted here are. from that you can figure the right shadowing and texture and render in the color afterwards. take enough time to do it right and you can get VERY close to exact.

some images, depending on what program was used, leave ambient colors that may only be a pixle in size and hard to see unless magnified. because of this some images can indeed be reversed given that there are some colors left behind from the previous modifcations.

WheelSee
01-31-2007, 10:35 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb1_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146901/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb2_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146899/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb4_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146898/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb7_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146902/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb8_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146900/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb5_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146903/)

Thanks for locking my thread so that you could post the same thing! :tap:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=159236&highlight=

I'm on Autoblog.com everyday waiting for leaked pics. Then yesturday, a series of pics was posted on the site. The first thing I did was put it on SL for all peeps to see. Then it's locked today, which is understandable, but then you post the same exact thing? Whatever, at least everyone will see them now.

yeah I don't get why they jacked your post...messed up!

seattledave
01-31-2007, 10:49 PM
again, I spend everyday of my work using CS2. I have been doing digital graphic design since 96, print/web/software UI design for 11 years now. I don't mean to "dis" younger people just because, as I too started working at 16 doing this, but you seem to be typing out of your rear.

while you tried to just logically explain how you think you would accomplish this using a paint program, you didn't explain how it's actually done. What program? What filter/tools are used?

I want to know about this $1000 program I can buy at circuit city and/or bestbuy and how it can take image data that is has been lost, shrunk and then compressed and make it magically all come back, using just these .jpgs.

Winter
01-31-2007, 11:11 PM
nevermind i even said anything then, i already said i don't know the name of the program thus that should have said plainly outloud that i can't explain exactly how it's done.

chillout, calm down, just saying what i've "SEEN" be done; not what i've done my self. photography and graphics design is not what i do so i don't care to remember anything about it.

Winter
01-31-2007, 11:13 PM
BACK TO TOPIC

it does seem to have somewhat of the original xB's back end but it seems rounded off and slanted. and the whole shifter being what it's at... yuck.

again, classic xB for me.

koasterking
01-31-2007, 11:18 PM
Sorry, not diggin' the interior and the back side. I'll have to wait and see it in person

t-ak-box
02-01-2007, 12:45 AM
dskinner wrote:
:question: Engine, front and rear facia, interior... So how exactly is it supposed to be like the JDM version?[/quote]


It seem to be the same size and overall shape JDM model. Yes, I would agree that xb2 looks much better (totally in the eye of the beholder of course) or differant than bB whatever # it is now. I guess Scion gave USA an original xb2, even though it's made from parts from Corporate parents parts bin.

I have one or two questions? Will xb2 have 4wd or awd option and is there a possible chance we could get seating configuration options :pray: like JDM model?

Tomas
02-01-2007, 12:55 AM
The current JDM bB is essentially the same size as the original - this new USDM xB2 appeared larger when I saw it... This isn't just a differently styled JDM bB, it appears to be a US only machine based on the Avensis chassis (Made in Japan).

Tom

xBster
02-01-2007, 01:03 AM
I think I like my "Classic" xB better...

evilBOXevil
02-01-2007, 01:31 AM
These pics are so obviously intentional leaks. There is no other reason for them to be intentionally taken of bits and pieces of the car, and this blackout effects crap is stupid. This is meant to cause exactly what is being posted here.

If someone approached any magazine (internet or print) with these pictures, there would be absolutely no legal reason to distort or alter them. Unless we can believe that Hollywoodblogturd.com has signed a non-disclosure with Scion, then these pics are either intentionally distorted, or fakes.

Noone would pay money for intentionally distorted pictures. Once a photographer has taken a picture of a person or thing- that image is their property. If a magazine purchases these pictures from the photographer- the person or thing in the photos has no legal path to dispute the use of their image. Legally, the magazine bought the property of the photographer to use at it's own discretion. The Scion xB is the intellectual property of Toyota/Scion- a photograph of it is not. It is the property of the photographer. This is why Papparazzi make good money.

Either a tease from Scion or some intentional disinformation.

gergs
02-01-2007, 01:42 AM
If the new XB is based on an Avensis Chasis......does anyone know roughly the MPG it might get with the same Avensis 1.8 engine? Will this be a heavier vehicle than the Avensis or can we roughly assume similar MPG?

I am an owner to be waiting till the 8th to decide which XB to buy. I want to see the new model and get an idea of the MPG it will get. If they wreck the look and hose the MPG I will go classic. I wouldn't think they would mess up the MPG considering the trend towards higher MPG that everyone wants. Unless they suddenly had SUV envy.

I can wait fortunately before I buy but it stinks waiting to see the new one. I could make a choice now with just a little info. Suspense sells I guess.

Do XB sticks really run at a higher RPM cruising at 80 mph than the auto? Does anyone have any idea if that will be the case in the new one too or was this just the classic's gearing? I want a stick but I drive a lot of highway miles and dont want to work the engine harder than needed over a lot of miles.

Thanks all.

Tomas
02-01-2007, 02:28 AM
The manual runs at higher RPMs in top gear than the automatic because of the final axle ratio. (About 700 RPM difference at 80 MPH.)

Here's the comparison, within roughly 10 RPM:

AUTOMATIC:

2560 RPM @ 60 MPH
2990 RPM @ 70 MPH
3410 RPM @ 80 MPH

MANUAL:

3070 RPM @ 60 MPH
3580 RPM @ 70 MPH
4090 RPM @ 80 MPH

Tom

ScionEyes
02-01-2007, 03:20 AM
ok so now that i am really confused, I can't wait to see it in person again in Chicago.. wonder if we i will be able to sit in it

ProjectFusion
02-01-2007, 04:38 AM
Damn, well it's a definate I'm going back to a Scion for my business now just have to wait and see what this one's going to look like and how much space on the inside for hauling vs old xb.

jjjosh41
02-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Sorta look like a Honda Pilot though from the backside....

I thought the SAME thing. From the front it looks a little like the CRV but more beefed up.

dskinner
02-01-2007, 05:39 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb1_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146901/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb2_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146899/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb4_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146898/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb7_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146902/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb8_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146900/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/07xb5_thumbnail.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots/146903/)

Thanks for locking my thread so that you could post the same thing! :tap:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=159236&highlight=

I'm on Autoblog.com everyday waiting for leaked pics. Then yesturday, a series of pics was posted on the site. The first thing I did was put it on SL for all peeps to see. Then it's locked today, which is understandable, but then you post the same exact thing? Whatever, at least everyone will see them now.

yeah I don't get why they jacked your post...messed up!

Thanks for the props!

dskinner
02-01-2007, 05:42 PM
ok so now that i am really confused, I can't wait to see it in person again in Chicago.. wonder if we i will be able to sit in it

I wouldn't count on it. Typically, only the media (if anyone) gets to actually sit in the vehicles. Since they are pre-produciton models and not concept cars, it's a possibility, but don't count on it.

toyotaisme
02-01-2007, 08:53 PM
Is this going to be some competition for the Xb?
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel1.jpg
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel2.jpg
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel3.jpg

dskinner
02-01-2007, 09:03 PM
^^^ That is lightyears from production. They may take some design elements and apply them to the Cube. As far as I have read, the next-gen Cube will be sold in the states.

Current Cube:
http://www.auto.vl.ru/catalog_photos/nissan/cube/nissan_cube_10854.jpg

Guamsilverbox671
02-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Is this going to be some competition for the Xb?
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel1.jpg
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel2.jpg
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/bevel3.jpg

eww

Looks like they took the Armada and the Quests step child.

koasterking
02-01-2007, 11:59 PM
^^^ That is lightyears from production. They may take some design elements and apply them to the Cube. As far as I have read, the next-gen Cube will be sold in the states.

Current Cube:
http://www.auto.vl.ru/catalog_photos/nissan/cube/nissan_cube_10854.jpg

Wasn't Nissan suppose to introduce the Cube in the States this year or last?? All in all, i prefer the Cube over the next xb in looks.

ScionXBrent
02-02-2007, 06:48 AM
They realized they were years late now and gave up. lol

(not really, or maybe... it wouldn't sell nearly as well as the current xB anyways).

motz
02-02-2007, 07:12 AM
the butt reminds me of a Honda pilot.

its cool tho, like xB meets tC kind of style

i like it!

xBster
02-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Only a few more days and all our questions will be answered!! I can't wait ...

seattledave
02-02-2007, 04:07 PM
that cube is cool looking, i think better looking than that new xb, but the only motor anyone wants from nissan is that 3.5L V6. I'd as soon take a mitsubishi, even an american I4 engine as any 4banger nissan is gonna put in there. the interior of the current cube is junk though.

dskinner
02-02-2007, 05:40 PM
The 3.5L is a great motor among several duds for Nissan.

That is, until the GT-R and it's 3.7L it is supposed to get.

Decendant08
02-02-2007, 05:52 PM
Here is what I've done in Photoshop to put some color to the interior shot if the xB2. It's not the best but it may give some sort of representation of it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/Jdubs06/2008-xB-interior.jpg

dskinner
02-02-2007, 06:05 PM
Great job! I wonder what's up with the four teal round gauges? Seems a bit much.

Decendant08
02-02-2007, 07:01 PM
I don't know the true colors of the xB. I stole the gauge from the Camry and just duplicated it. I stole the A/C and such controls from the Yaris. All my colors could be WAY off but I wanted to get a better idea....just having fun until next week.

lonestar
02-02-2007, 07:16 PM
^^^ That is lightyears from production. They may take some design elements and apply them to the Cube. As far as I have read, the next-gen Cube will be sold in the states.


Wasn't Nissan suppose to introduce the Cube in the States this year or last?? All in all, i prefer the Cube over the next xb in looks.

We will apparently be getting the next gen Cube in about a year or so.

Tomas
02-02-2007, 08:26 PM
:clap: Very nicely done, Decendant08! That actually gives a very good 'feel' of what we saw in Miami - probably off in small details, but an excellent representation. :D

Tom

RTon20s
02-02-2007, 09:49 PM
I agree with Thomas. Now get to work on one of the exterior shots. :)

toyotaisme
02-02-2007, 09:57 PM
Here is what I've done in Photoshop to put some color to the interior shot if the xB2. It's not the best but it may give some sort of representation of it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/Jdubs06/2008-xB-interior.jpg

That looks great.

604toaster
02-03-2007, 12:28 AM
Excellent job Decendant08!

t-ak-box
02-03-2007, 12:28 AM
I agree with Thomas. Now get to work on one of the exterior shots. :)

[[color=darkred]b]Great Job Decandant08 :clap: [/b]

I finally may have figured out why we don't get bB type seating. It's because of US regulation on seating and requirements. You know so many seatbelts and headrests for so many passengers. And also I notice in earlier Interior shots of front seats of JDM (Yes, I know not the same vehicle. Please!! :doh: I get it.) that model is strictly five seater w/ center armrest. So I guess the interior we ended up with was pretty much regulated.

I have another question will new xb2 have factory navi? :pray:

Tomas
02-03-2007, 12:47 AM
Factory nav? Doubtful. Dealer or port install nav? Could be!

It would just about have to be a stateside installed option to fit with the Scion marketing idea.

Tom

Subcompact Culture
02-03-2007, 02:03 AM
I really like the looks of the Cube -- always have. However, I'm not a huge fan of Nissans.

Tomas
02-03-2007, 02:07 AM
I really like the looks of the Cube -- always have. However, I'm not a huge fan of Nissans.
That pretty much says it for me, too. I've owned Toyotas since 1972 and never owned a Nissan...

Tom

munkymonkjr
02-03-2007, 05:31 AM
@ Decandant08 --- nice job on the pic.

@ Sushiboy -- yup...cube > xb. then again maybe i am just a little bias since i drive an altima

@seattledave -- nissan makes some decent I4s as well. Granted you're right the 3.5L (as in Altima SE-R) is their claim to fame, but even the 2.4L (err...2.5L now i suppose) that i have is pretty fun and responsive.

the whole thing about the cube makes me really sad b/c have to wait another year for it and the smart to start selling in america which would make shopping a lot harder... the fact is i'll be getting a new car THIS summer. hmm... will prolly get the Elantra Limited and then either the Cube or the fortwo when the Daewoo dies (its @ 52k....can't be much longer now)

edit: on a side note about nissan : their claim to fame is their A/C systems which get ice cold really nice and really fast. so if the scion is a toaster, the cube must be the fridge

motz
02-03-2007, 01:25 PM
that looks exactly like the chinese xB copy that everyone is talking about.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/motz_the_xa/greatwall_xB_front.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/motz_the_xa/greatwall_xB_side.jpg

its chinese xB copy right? i thought thats what i read.
sorry if im wrong

SquallLHeart
02-03-2007, 07:48 PM
i don't think it looks the same...

and yes.... the Coolbear is a chinese copycat

lem
02-04-2007, 09:57 AM
So there's onlyone reverse light? Here the pic I tried to clean it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Guamsilverbox671/07xb1.jpg

That is a courtesy light, not reverse light, the lens is colored red, common in japan, hopefully its available here.

I've been wanting to pput one in my xb.

CBSIMONSEZ
02-04-2007, 02:39 PM
That is a courtesy light, not reverse light, the lens is colored red, common in japan, hopefully its available here.

I've been wanting to pput one in my xb.

Ive never seen a red courtesy light on a JDM car in the rear, but if you say so.

BTW ... i saw the new B in Miami, and the back up light had a clear lense, not red. And, this isnt Japan.

markfaz
02-04-2007, 09:33 PM
After talking with the head of sales at a local dealership yesterday, he mentioned the new xB would be 10" longer than current and have a 2.4 under the hood. Whether he was telling the truth or not I have no idea, but I wasn't there to buy one and we were talking about some other things when he mentioned it. There wasn't really a motive for him to lie to me about it.

munkymonkjr
02-04-2007, 11:37 PM
camry 2.4 ? wouldn't be too bad IMO...my altima has that and if i were to get the next xb i wouldn't wanna downgrade to a 1.5....even the corolla 1.8 would not be so desireable. the #1 worst reviewed part about the 1st gen xb (besides love it or leave it style) is the severely underpowed 1.5. granted, do expect fuel econ to fall from the 30s well into the mid-upper 20s.

markfaz
02-05-2007, 01:44 AM
Yes...the Camry 2.4 but they told me it had been worked on to get low 30's on the mpg for the xB

Grogck
02-05-2007, 02:09 AM
If he's talking low 30s on the highway I would expect that (and be disappointed if it couldn't.) Most recent 4-cylinder engines can do that. But I don't think there's any way they'll be able to pull off low-30s for the city mileage rating given the increased size/weight and power.

toyotatodd
02-05-2007, 02:50 AM
didn't they increase power ad size with the rav4? I wasn't following that model close. I just don't have the $$$.
It would b sweet if they would hook Scion up with that level of engineering. Then all the secrets would be justified on Jan 7

munkymonkjr
02-05-2007, 03:34 AM
just 4 more days till the big day. can't wait. i'll be @ the show next sunday (11th) to look @ the goods

toyotatodd
02-05-2007, 04:17 AM
i'll be one of the first in the door. my phone has a camera and web access. hopefully, by 11am on the 9th i'll have the 1st pics from the show posted on this forum. i'll also try to get the vitals if they have not been hashed out by then.

lem
02-05-2007, 07:12 AM
That is a courtesy light, not reverse light, the lens is colored red, common in japan, hopefully its available here.

I've been wanting to pput one in my xb.

Ive never seen a red courtesy light on a JDM car in the rear, but if you say so.

BTW ... i saw the new B in Miami, and the back up light had a clear lense, not red. And, this isnt Japan.

Okay. . . from where I come from, civics, evo's, have them. Just thought it would make the box unique. Courtesy lights are commonly seen in Japan or UK. These are the red lense/s at the lower rear bumper while driving in foggy conditions.

Well, I'm here now and we don't get to much fog here in Ca anyway. More so in Miami.

Peace.

Grogck
02-05-2007, 08:04 PM
didn't they increase power ad size with the rav4? I wasn't following that model close. I just don't have the $$$.
It would b sweet if they would hook Scion up with that level of engineering. Then all the secrets would be justified on Jan 7Yeah, the Rav stepped up in size. It's now as large as the previous generation CR-V (the new CR-V stepped up though and now is as big as a Highlander.)

The Rav also offers a 240hp V6 that's gotten a lot of acclaim for being RATED at 22mpg city, but from what I've heard a little over 18mpg is what actually pans out in the real world. That's why I hope the city mpg numbers for the new XB don't take too steep a hit from the current gen. City mpg is always the number that's hardest to obtain and if this thing only ends up being rated around 25-26 mpg city most people will likely get low 20s in the real world.

Decendant08
02-05-2007, 08:26 PM
Here's an exterior shot colorized. Not great by any means......the front was pretty hard to define. The image didn't have a lot of detail but it gives some sense of the shape.


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/Jdubs06/2008xBexteriorcopy.jpg

aedwards
02-05-2007, 08:41 PM
the only gripe i have about the new xb from what ive seen, is that there STILL isnt any real definition on the doors. i may be wrong, since i havent seen the new xb, but thats one thing i dont like about the classic, that the doors are just plain and dont have any definition or a line through the doors, dont know what thats called. i just wish they would add a little more detail to the body and not look so plain like the classic xb

bB2NER
02-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Should be interesting what ever they come out with but since I love my classic xB I'm not too worried about what the next one looks like even if it's called xB.

teamkasnomas
02-05-2007, 09:46 PM
Just a drawing snaffled from somewhere else and modified a bit to more fit what I remembered. Not totally accurate, but fairly close.

http://tijil.org/ScionxB2.jpg

Not that much longer until you see the real thing, folks, not long at all.

Tom

this is almost exactly it. nearly the same car that i saw at the focus group last summer. all those b/w shots are of same focus-grouped car, btw. if they unveil the same car that was focus-grouped, it is great news for everyone. and i see no reason why it won't be exactly the same. it is fantastic in every way (except mpg is going to take a hit with the bigger engine...)

seattledave
02-05-2007, 10:26 PM
the only gripe i have about the new xb from what ive seen, is that there STILL isnt any real definition on the doors. i may be wrong, since i havent seen the new xb, but thats one thing i dont like about the classic, that the doors are just plain and dont have any definition or a line through the doors, dont know what thats called. i just wish they would add a little more detail to the body and not look so plain like the classic xb

If you mean the notch in acura tl(as great a car as that is), or the previous generation eclipse or grand am, im gonna say no thanks.

That's the MAIN reason i love the xb. It's no-nonsense body, with no stupid ribbing, protrusions, flares, dips, etc...

and i'd love if we just got the 1.8. More power, more mpg, and is there a reliable motor on the planet? I'd way prefer the 1.8 over the 2.4.

Alchemist80
02-05-2007, 10:47 PM
a dealer here told me the new one would start out $1800 more than the last xB. I dunno if thats been said anywhere or not yet.

Tomas
02-06-2007, 12:19 AM
Yeah, people seem to be hearing $1500-$1800 over xB Classic prices for the xB2. I don't know how reliable those dealer guesses are, though.

Tom

YupYup
02-06-2007, 12:55 AM
The Rav also offers a 240hp V6 that's gotten a lot of acclaim for being RATED at 22mpg city, but from what I've heard a little over 18mpg is what actually pans out in the real world.

The Rav4 has 269 hp. :)

http://www.toyota.com/rav4/specs.html?s_van=GM_TN_RAV4_SPECS

I highly doubt the xB2 will have the 2.4L motor. If that's the case, then the base price will probably be more than the TC's.

uberscionofglendale
02-06-2007, 01:07 AM
i'm always the last to know anything, so disregard anything i say. but, if the xB is being built on the same chassis as the tC, and being designed by the same people ( i would assume, since the pics look a little tCish), that having the 2.4L in there would make sense. dunno though, we shall see.

anyone think about this, if these pics were given to one of the CSI teams on TV, we would have perfect pics of the new xB in an hour or so.

Garage1217
02-06-2007, 02:42 AM
Dash is DEF not the same dash... exterior looks close. New xb has it's gauges in front of the steering wheel. That interior looks more like the xd dash with xb outsides...

toyotatodd
02-06-2007, 05:58 AM
The Rav also offers a 240hp V6 that's gotten a lot of acclaim for being RATED at 22mpg city, but from what I've heard a little over 18mpg is what actually pans out in the real world.

The Rav4 has 269 hp. :)

http://www.toyota.com/rav4/specs.html?s_van=GM_TN_RAV4_SPECS

I highly doubt the xB2 will have the 2.4L motor. If that's the case, then the base price will probably be more than the TC's.

My hope still lies in the option of the 2.4 with a 1.8 standard. Until the release date I can annoy my wife car hope. Yes I am pathetic
269 hp is just asking for a ticket, in my case. 170 would be perfect.
While I am at it, Big ups to forums like this. It keeps it real so we can see through the numers slaped on the sticker. My Corolla is getting 28.7 mixed city/hwy. My eye is firmly on this new xB to pull out something close with added interior space and = speed + better style. Let's face it after we pay the bank the sticker lies again. :relief:

toyotaisme
02-06-2007, 06:34 AM
Here's an exterior shot colorized. Not great by any means......the front was pretty hard to define. The image didn't have a lot of detail but it gives some sense of the shape.


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/Jdubs06/2008xBexteriorcopy.jpg

nice job :clap:

bB2NER
02-06-2007, 06:51 AM
The more of the true look we see the fuglier it's getting.

Alchemist80
02-06-2007, 12:26 PM
i def dont like how the rear emblem goes up onto the glass like that.

THE_DON
02-06-2007, 02:24 PM
i def dont like how the rear emblem goes up onto the glass like that.

To keep you from shaving it... :nope:

-THE DON

crazypezguy
02-06-2007, 04:28 PM
lame it comes with rims wheres the rims that should have came with mine....

bB2NER
02-06-2007, 05:00 PM
In the pics those tires sure look familar. They are the same GoodYears. Look at the edge pattern.

evilBOXevil
02-06-2007, 06:05 PM
I love how these intentional leak pics are at such crappy angles...even if they were released completely unaltered, you wouldn't be able to get any real idea of what the thing looks like anyways. It's done on purpose to create pages and pages of excitement, like we see here on this forum. You don't think Toyota/Scion people follow these posts?!

Silly Scion peoples. Good stuff. :P

JSM1284
02-06-2007, 06:09 PM
http://cata.mediaroom.com/file.php/129/2007_Show_Update_3.pdf

Red page 2, The way they describe it, The new xB will just be shown at a media conference and not on the show floor?

CBSIMONSEZ
02-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Dash is DEF not the same dash... exterior looks close. New xb has it's gauges in front of the steering wheel. That interior looks more like the xd dash with xb outsides...

I dont know what you were looking at in Miami but the xB2 i saw has the speedo in the center, just not as round as the 1st gen.

Max
02-06-2007, 10:28 PM
http://cata.mediaroom.com/file.php/129/2007_Show_Update_3.pdf

Red page 2, The way they describe it, The new xB will just be shown at a media conference and not on the show floor?

Yep, pretty standard stuff there. I hope they plan on moving it up to the show floor after the introduction, but who knows.

Buebie
02-06-2007, 10:41 PM
I can barely tell what I'm looking at. How are these pics? Looks like a catscan.

JSM1284
02-06-2007, 11:01 PM
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/JSM1284/1170340503651288.jpg

CBSIMONSEZ
02-07-2007, 01:00 AM
Congrats to all those who get to go to that conference. I remember what it was like to attend the Miami event. The anticipation was out of this world.

rogcjms
02-07-2007, 01:11 AM
hell yeah it was..i wish i can re-live Miami again...i cant wait til Thursday!

501scionxb
02-07-2007, 08:03 AM
whoa

ayS
02-13-2007, 03:27 PM
i agree!

Parts of the rear hatch reminds me of a Highlander.