I read somewhere that someone saw a lifted xb owned by a snowboard company. Anybody got pics? I totally wanna see a huge ___ xb with fatty meats!

ha, that seems like something Nitro or Burton would do to boost promotions....im sure we'll see a few snowboard xB's this winter....i pewrsonally am hooking up my ride "snowboard" style, having snowboarded for 10 years now, im gonn ahve a lot of winter inspired mods on my car...

hell ya dude! I live in alaska so that's a guarantee! While on the subject, who would you recommend for a roof rack? yakima? What other snowboard mods are there? (Don't know if this is one, but I'll have to get studs! :wink: )

I'd like to see that too.
Short-wheel base, short over-hangs...
xBs would outrageous out on dirt. :D
Somebody contact Fabtech... :D :D :D
teeheehee :lol:

I'd recommended the Yakima which i have installed on the xB.

ya bro, I was thinking yakima. Is there any way to install them so you can take them off easy with no drilling or bolts? And how much are they?

Yeah the Yakima System i have is a complete set for cars without a factory rack. 4 Q Towers, 4 Q Clips (Q121) , 2 58" load bars will complete the set for installation on an xB. It will mount above where the doors shut. And it's easy to install and take out. The Rack looks nice. No drilling necessary. I got the whole package for 250 shipped to my house through www.class-cycles.com . But they raised their prices as of recently. It's now 282 shipped which isn't bad for the rack system and the big powderhound snowboard/ski carrier.

ya bro, I was thinking yakima. Is there any way to install them so you can take them off easy with no drilling or bolts? And how much are they?

Check yakima.com for fitment and parts, check ebay for pricing... Be sure to look up the xB under 2004, last time I was there, they didn't have it listed for 2005, just the tC...

You'll want the Q Towers and clips for the xB. They attach to the door jambs, actually don't "attach" more like grab. Solid as hell and easy to take on and off. After you get the main rack, there are tons of attachment accessories. And you can always buy new towers to fit your future cars. I've moved mine several times from car to car to car...

I'm sure it would look cool, but they better trailer it around. I'd like to see 108 HP turning a big tire. Especially with the new found gear ratio of healthy meat. Just putting 18's on my car slowed it down immensly. And I've 4 cylinder jeeps before with bigger tires. One had a set of wide 31's on it (so not MONSTER huge) and it wouldn't get out of it's own way. Topped out at about 60-65 MPH, and you could forget all about using 5th gear because it couldn't turn the wheels any faster than in 4th without the torque.

........But I'd still like to see the pics.

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I'm sure it would look cool, but they better trailer it around. I'd like to see 108 HP turning a big tire. Especially with the new found gear ratio of healthy meat. Just putting 18's on my car slowed it down immensly. And I've 4 cylinder jeeps before with bigger tires. One had a set of wide 31's on it (so not MONSTER huge) and it wouldn't get out of it's own way. Topped out at about 60-65 MPH, and you could forget all about using 5th gear because it couldn't turn the wheels any faster than in 4th without the torque.

........But I'd still like to see the pics.

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I got a funny story about big meats and 4cyl wranglers.
My buddy used to own one (4" lift & 31s or 33s I think) and he let me drive it a few times. This one particular time (the first time) I was on the interstate tooling along when I came upon an onramp with a car coming up onto the interstate. Now, at this time I was used to driving my integra which was quite a bit zippier than the wrangler. Anyways...so there I was, on the outside lane, traffic to my left, and a bit of space infront of me...so I though I'd speed it up to get out of the merging car's way, so I downshift and step on the gas..................nothing, no acceleration, the RPMs went up, but the speedo didn't. Downshift again......................nothing, R's go up more, still no acceleration :shock: Finally I clutched it, coasted and let the merging car get in infront of me. :evil: Man that sucked, I've never driven such a lethargic vehicle in my life!

Moral of the story, big meats and tiny motors don't mix. :lol:

...I've never driven such a lethargic vehicle in my life!

Everybody should be required to drive a pre-72 VW bus (1600cc, 50HP, 3500lb) for at least a year after getting their driver's licenses. No performance, no handling, no automatic anything, no crumple zones. Everyone would have to learn to drive, not just cut-and-thrust!

They would also learn what "lethargic" really means. :)

George

I read somewhere that someone saw a lifted xb owned by a snowboard company. Anybody got pics? I totally wanna see a huge ___ xb with fatty meats!

Bump, because I want to see this!

where's the pics?

the_saint wrote:
Man that sucked, I've never driven such a lethargic vehicle in my life!

Then you get a Scion!!! :oops:

The only car I've ever had that was worst than my box was an old Luv 4X4 mini truck. But it was a 4 speed and I could rev it to the redline when I had too.
My 4 cylinder Wrangler on stock tire and rims will get up and walk away from my box plus I get 21mpg running around town. The gutless wonder used to get 28mpg. Now with the 18s on it the mileage dropped down to 25. :x

hey mr chet you sound like a retart,if u dont like the xb why do you still have it,plus my box gets great gas milege,finally if you work in the computer field you must be stupid to be driving a xb ,most computer techs i know drive mercedes or bmw .what do u fix playschool computers dumb a--.

What's a "retart" Is that like a leftover poptart dinner?

dang no pics yet.......ill find some.....hhahah.......

hey mr chet you sound like a retart,if u dont like the xb why do you still have it,plus my box gets great gas milege,finally if you work in the computer field you must be stupid to be driving a xb ,most computer techs i know drive mercedes or bmw .what do u fix playschool computers dumb a--.

Yes, like yourself, I must sound like a "stupid dumb a-- retart".

Thanks for the laughs though griecos.
I did sell a Mercedes a few days after I got the XB. I couldn't pass up the offer. (kind of like your Dad?) But I've still got my 500 SL that I'll sell to you cheap.
I wanted a new company vehicle to haul equipment around in that would get attention. It works for that and as a rolling billboard. I looked at a Mini but it didn't have any room in it. The Magnum has poor visibility, and there are too many bad drivers that you have to watch out for here.
As for selling it, I have been seriously considering that option. Although, since I haven't even had it five weeks I was hoping that it might get better mileage after brake in. I have started looking into putting a supercharger on it though.
If it got anywhere near the mileage that they claim I probably wouldn't mind it as bad. But that was one of the reasons in buying it for a lot of us.
Maybe I should be thankful since the El Camino it replaced gets 15 mpg if I baby it and 9 mpg if I drive like it wants. And I never have to worry about those exhibition of speed or street racing tickets in the XB!!!
But after reading through the posts, it seems like only 30-40% of the people get the mileage that they should.
I'm sorry if the fact that I'm not satisfied with my box crushed your ego.
Guess you're lucky that you were able to get one that gets great mileage! Come on griecos act your age, not like the kids you work with at Baltusrol. Like yourself I'm here to find out what we can do to improve our boxes. But sometimes we tend to whine about things we don't like.

Sorry people, I hope this won't start a flame war. I really enjoy reading all the posts from everyone else here.

PS griecos... I have remote start and I love it. I went with the Viper 560XV. I used to have one on my Lincoln and it's been a few years since then. I missed it. Go for it, you'll like it, security and convenience.

What's a "retart" Is that like a leftover poptart dinner?


doode that was f'in great!! haha made me laugh out loud at work... 8)

...Anybody got pics? I totally wanna see a huge ___ xb with fatty meats!
http://www.iradical.net/images/Lifted1.jpg

Here's a fake photopshop'd lifted xB from the ToyotaNation Forum. They agreed in the following thread that a lifted xB "would be sick."

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t45694.html

:roll: RPM

...Anybody got pics? I totally wanna see a huge ___ xb with fatty meats!
http://www.iradical.net/images/Lifted1.jpg

Here's a fake photopshop'd lifted xB from the ToyotaNation Forum. They agreed in the following thread that a lifted xB "would be sick."

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t45694.html

:roll: RPM

very horrible lifted.......... :( :( :(

I don't think that's what they mean by "lifted"! I agree that xB looks like something someone who rode the short yellow bus to school would do.

Think more like a 4" lift kit, with some monster mudders on 15" alcoa aluminum wheels, kinda like a Dick Cepek version. You know, like some of those "mini" monster-truck Suzuki Samurais that are around, lol...

But seriously, like those xBs that are bagged and seriously slammed to the ground, a lifted xB would be entirely impractical for off-roading. If it was AWD with a more powerful motor and more "robust" drivetrain, that would be different. But in it's current version, a lifted xB would be good for show only...

I think if the xB had the right color & a lot of light bars it might look good lifted. If your going to lift it for off road, dont half ___ it, put all the off road lights you can because you never know when you will need them. Also that photo shop picture does not look to good. If you went lifted for off road go with a stock 15" or maybe 16". The more side wall the better.

I don't think that's what they mean by "lifted"! I agree that xB looks like something someone who rode the short yellow bus to school would do.

Think more like a 4" lift kit, with some monster mudders on 15" alcoa aluminum wheels, kinda like a Dick Cepek version. You know, like some of those "mini" monster-truck Suzuki Samurais that are around, lol...

But seriously, like those xBs that are bagged and seriously slammed to the ground, a lifted xB would be entirely impractical for off-roading. If it was AWD with a more powerful motor and more "robust" drivetrain, that would be different. But in it's current version, a lifted xB would be good for show only...

you want to convert your xB to 4X4 I know of a shop that would do it :shock:

slap a solid axle in the front and a big lift, some fender trimming and regear it, and...ah how much ya wanna spend :lol:

I think a lifted xB would look alot like a Isuzu Trooper (with a shorter snout).

"I was hoping that it might get better mileage after brake in"

if we're going to split hairs, it's "break in". almost as bad as "ratart".

k, guyz heres my contribution to your fantasy. hope you like it! :shock: ..LOL

http://www.grafxguyz.com/pics/4x4.jpg

the_saint wrote:
Man that sucked, I've never driven such a lethargic vehicle in my life!

Then you get a Scion!!! :oops:

The only car I've ever had that was worst than my box was an old Luv 4X4 mini truck. But it was a 4 speed and I could rev it to the redline when I had too.
My 4 cylinder Wrangler on stock tire and rims will get up and walk away from my box plus I get 21mpg running around town. The gutless wonder used to get 28mpg. Now with the 18s on it the mileage dropped down to 25. :x

From motor trend....
Especially when mated to the three-speed automatic, the 120-horse four is better suited to urban adventuring; if you plan serious high-country off-roading, the six's potent 222 pound-foot torque peak will come in handy. When coupled with the standard five-speed manual, the big six propels the Wrangler 0-60 mph in 9.3 seconds. But because you're the one with the elements, it feels quicker.


.....So if the jeeps 190 horse,222 lbs of torque six cyl gets 0-60 in 9.3....and the box with a manual does 9.5.....how in the hell would a four cyl with 120 horses "walk away" from an xb? Bull.

from motor trend....
The cast iron 2.5-litre unit develops 117 bhp at 5200 rpm and 137 lb ft of torque at 3600 rpm, to give the Wrangler 2.5 a maximum speed of 92 mph with 0-60 mph taking in 13.6 seconds.

13.6, as opposed to 9.5......the xb walks...actually runs, away from the jeep.

Well it must be my pathetic piece of box then!
I've never felt like I was about to get ran over every time I get on the freeway on-ramp in my Jeep. The XB seems to run out of power after I get up to 30mph, unless I stick my foot in it. I drive fairly mellow and have never had people run up on my like when I'm in the XB. Even on the freeway in the Jeep I don't have to downshift like the Scion does. Granted the Jeep is a 5 speed so every now and then I'll downshift to 4th but in the XB it always needs to drop down into 2nd to get any speed increase. Once it's up to speed everything is fine. Maybe it's the automatic in this thing but I've really been disappointed in the power. Coming up on 6 weeks of ownership and I've decided that if the hurricane comes back I'm leaving the Scion here and hope that it gets wiped out so I can go get something else. No power and ____ poor mileage has brought the joys of new car ownership to fast halt. Turning heads was fun but now I'm even getting tired of everyone asking what is it? The only thing that really makes me enjoy driving this thing is the stereo.
Now if someone figures out what kind of an engine will swap into it to make driving normal that would change some things. Also I haven't been able to get anyone with a supercharger to tell me how it changed daily driving yet. I'm not looking for another hot rod I just want something that can get out of its own way before someone gets killed. I let a friend drive it the other day and that's what happened to him. He was used to his car and attempted to make a left in traffic and almost get clipped from not being able to make the turn in time.

Maybe I should just paint this turd brown or lemon yellow

for Yakima products:

try rackattack.com

they have shops a ll over, but I had mine installed in portland, OR for $215.

I know they were having a sale, maybe it's still going?

Maybe it's the automatic in this thing


theres your problem right there. YOU GOT AN AUTO! just yesterday, i heard a story bout a guy who got an auto XB and put the supercharger on it, and got spanked by a stock XB with a manual tranny. that ought to tell you what a difference there is between the two. not only does the auto take more power to work, its heavier too! trade it in on a MANUAL!

:wink:

k, guyz heres my contribution to your fantasy. hope you like it! :shock: ..LOL

http://www.grafxguyz.com/pics/4x4.jpg
:shock: :lol: :shock:

Yes now that is a lifted xB. That thing looks sweet.

It doesn't look very lifted though. There can't be hardly any suspension travel, look at the fender gap. :?
Those tires do look pretty gnarly on that box. :twisted: :lol:

k, guyz heres my contribution to your fantasy. hope you like it! :shock: ..LOL

http://www.grafxguyz.com/pics/4x4.jpg

So those would be what, 10" wheels? :lol:

Well it must be my pathetic piece of box then!
I've never felt like I was about to get ran over every time I get on the freeway on-ramp in my Jeep. The XB seems to run out of power after I get up to 30mph, unless I stick my foot in it.* EDIT non relevent material*
The only car I've ever had that was worst than my box was an old Luv 4X4 mini truck. But it was a 4 speed and I could rev it to the redline when I had too.
My 4 cylinder Wrangler on stock tire and rims will get up and walk away from my box plus I get 21mpg running around town. The gutless wonder used to get 28mpg. Now with the 18s on it the mileage dropped down to 25. :x

No flames here but :wink: .....

you don't want to kick down the auto tranny yet you would do the same with the LUV :shock:

I have just run my first tankful of gas all stock I got 31.1 mph running the air and stop and go/freeway travel.

I wonder if you have changed the gear ratio with the larger wheels. this would affect both the milage and your get up and go. As an offroader perhaps I am more aware of this than the average bear.

Using my GPS my stock Tacoma Double cab 4X4 speedo was not accurate. when I went to 32" tires and stock gearing my GPS and speedo was dead on, when I regeared to 4.56 from 3.91 I now find myself about 9% faster on the speedo compared to the GPS.

I suspect your larger wheels and tires may have a larger diameter than stock which would change your gear ratio and negatively affect both pick up and milage.

just a thought :)

k, guyz heres my contribution to your fantasy. hope you like it! :shock: ..LOL

http://www.grafxguyz.com/pics/4x4.jpg
:shock: :lol: :shock:

hey you gotta WARN a guy when you post that type of stuff :shock:

my wife saw that picture and said :evil: NO!

Oh hell yeah - I'm ALL about that "lifted" xB - it ain't lifted much - but that looks sweetass! (minus the exhaust) - I'd want dual flows comin out the back! :D

...Anybody got pics? I totally wanna see a huge ___ xb with fatty meats!
http://www.iradical.net/images/Lifted1.jpg

Here's a fake photopshop'd lifted xB from the ToyotaNation Forum. They agreed in the following thread that a lifted xB "would be sick."

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t45694.html

:roll: RPM

nice apple logo.

From ClubStlScion.com

http://www.clubstlscion.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1473

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/Luvmybox/usacixbronco1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/Luvmybox/usacixbronco1.jpg[/quote]

This is Pioneer's demo vehical for SPL contests.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/division/demo/spl/0,,2076_347729881,00.html#section=The%20Vehicles
Then click on the small pic of the XB

2 15's and 8 3000 watt amps :shock:

First Place, Extreme_2 class, 2005 dB Drag Racing World Finals
177.5dB:_ Ultimate 1 class IdBL World Record, 2005 IdBL World Finals
First Place, Ultimate_1 class, 2005 IdBL World Finals

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/top/cat/article/0,,2076_310069607_325629243,00.html
For the details.

The only thing that really makes me enjoy driving this thing is the stereo.

See, now if you bought the manual tranny xB, you'd be saying, 'Wow, this thing is great, except that stereo really sucks!' :nails:

LOL , TRUE

to bad they did'nt do a drive trian for it

I dont know if this is the one you all are talkin bout, but here u go..............

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/p1foghornleghorn/4x4_scion_xb.jpg

Lifting the xB and putting it on a yj or cj chassis woudn't be hard. Even setting up the steering isn't hard with those vehicles. with enough body lift and a 4cylinder cj/yj motor it might fit with some sqeaking but the short frontend is going to require a lot of work.

The question is why?

I don't know about driving a lifted xB around...haha