you have to see the cars in person. pictures don't do it justice because i look at the pictures and the only ones that look good are the 5axis models. seeing the stock versions in person the new cars are truly amazing and i'm not saying that because i work for scion. both cars deserve the scion badge. our 2nd gen xB looks more like the 1st gen than the 2nd gen jdm model. its an evolution of the original B design. i've seen post where the rear of the xD reminds members of the dodge calibur, again wait until you see it person. you can't see the little details of the design until the car is in front of you. also, they look and feel more substantial than the 1st gens and you can't judge that by an on-line picture.

i'll give a great example of pictures don't do the car justice. the Lexus IS-F when i saw the detroit pictures i said was weird looking and ugly. when i saw it at chicago in "person" i was blown away. the car is not weird and ugly but wicked and aggressive. the car has that get out of my way look about it which is smart of lexus to do. they couldn't make it look like every other S, M or AMG model where there's subtle difference between the regular models. they needed their car to stand out and make people look and they hit the bulls eye with the new IS-F.

so, like i said wait until you see both in person and i guarantee you won't be dissappointed. its amazing a majority that were in miami loves the new cars but the majority of the people whose seen it on-line hate it. :ponder:

Well, Toyotas as of late have looked like crap in pictures but turn out a lot better in person. But the xD looks fine enough in pictures to me.

I agree, I was there also!

Yeah, I'm scared for my bank account when I see them in person as I'd happily take either model now (having only seen pics.)

I saw them today in Chicago and I would have to say they actually look worse in person. I was coming around to them after I saw the Six Axis versions, but when they're on show next to other modded version of the old models, it's no contest. The old models simply blew them away. I found the body styling just looks disappointing in person. Such is life. Like the larger engines, though!