Hello all, im one of those people that drive really bad. i swear there wasnt one day when i didnt curb check my car. but recently when i got my tC, ive become like the safest driver! : ). ((my rims are a little scratched up though :doh: , guess im still not that safe))

well anyone who curb checks,
hits cars while parallel parking,
doesnt pay attention when changing lanes,
or just cant drive period, shoud think about uniting and coming up with ideas to reduce it! or just help me reduce them : /

express yourself (or your wrecklessness)! lol

:rofl: lol

its OK, girls were never good drivers, im pretty sure its genetic. At least you've got the guts to admit it

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[please everyone realize i am just kidding]

:P i just have a short attention span thats all

knowing you have a problem is the frist step to recovery .

^ :rofl: :bow:

haha theres no such thing as recovery when people tell it to you and rub it in your face everyday!! bad friends eh

I cut my right turns too quick... the wheels on my passenger side are all f*d up.

Yes, I'll join your club.

cot dam my friends are too nice to say anything about my sh*tty driving =[

but it hurts inside more

my right turns are bad too.. i think my depth perception is bad.. any turning advices/tips??? i am also unable to see my hood when i drive

haha... hrmm, I just need to slow down when turning, maybe that'll help x]

not seeing the hood shouldn't be too much of a problem, but then again you do have a depth perception problem =x

Yea i have the worst road rash on my passangers side...
Half of it was there when I got the car

im a slow driver. hence my screen name! i slow down on turns, but i guess i come so close to the curb, being afraid i might hit the car coming on the perpendicular side. catch my drift?

was that a pun?!?! hahaha xP

errr don't turn when cars are coming x]

Well, when I was learning the dimensions of the car, I put my seat somewhat high, it helped a little.
As for right turns, it takes some practice. try turning the wheel a half second later or not taking the turn too fast.

Its all about time, experience, and confidence. Im sure u'll get the hang of it =]

:P i just have a short attention span thats all

Yeah, me too ... that's why I am doing the world a favor by driving an auto. I have awesome road rash on my right front wheel ... darn curbs ... they come out of nowhere!!! I am going to have to join this club as well hahaha. I swing out away from the curb before I make right turns now and when I parallel park, I can now use my mirrors to see where the curb is. I dunno. You'll get it! HAHA.

Yeah. Oh! You should prolly start craning your neck everytime you need to turn, lol, I have to bc of the gigantic A-pillars!

well, you sound smart. in order for you to see your hood you might want to udjust the lumbar by turning the wheel on the side of your seat. if that doesnt's work try some of your school books.

was that a pun?!?! hahaha xP

errr don't turn when cars are coming x]

lol but its legal to turn right on a red light!! and i cant help it

my seat is as high as it can get and as close and straight to the steering wheel as it could be.. im considered a grandma driver, but i drive with one hand as opposed to both on 10 and 2.. i cant measure my car for some reason, also unable to see the back. should i just stay off the road and start car poolin? lol

i only curb right passenger side way early in the morning going to school or coming home from school when im tired or irritated =[

i take my turns too confidently, that's the problem x]

its OK, girls were never good drivers, im pretty sure its genetic. At least you've got the guts to admit it

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[please everyone realize i am just kidding]

omg i agree but not kidding! :rofl:

I'm glad you're in Missouri.

can i get any sympathy in here?!?!?!!

my seat is as high as it can get and as close and straight to the steering wheel as it could be.. im considered a grandma driver, but i drive with one hand as opposed to both on 10 and 2.. i cant measure my car for some reason...

Dont worry about it... TheQuietThings actually wasnt completely kidding...

Girls kind of are genetically predisposed to be a little bit worse at driving than most men. A guys brain is set up to be better at spatial perception... a girls brain has a larger connection between the two halves so girls tend to be better at things where you have to utilize more areas of your brain at once... but this is just a general trend for girls...

Everything depends on the person... One girl may be MUCH better at spatial perception (biologically) than another guy... or much worse than most girls... it just means that your brain is organized a little bit differently. What you lose in one area, you gain in another. You can't always have it all... :|

PS: I'm a good driver except for my right turns so I will be an occasional member to your club... I can't be paying 1/2 attention like i usually do when driving or I might hit the curb :[. I also think its the boxes fault a little bit... Its sooo hard to see the front right side street in this car when you're short :[

The Art of Right Turns... :rofl:

My problem is simply going too fast. Haven't had any problems since I got my new wheels, as they have a chrome lip and i'm scared as hell to scrape them. :nails:

its always a set opinion between genders. Im not saying youre wrong or anything Taugenichts but throughout this topic, there tends to be a conformity in opinion within all the guys. i need a female in here.

and i cant understand how its so laugh-out-loud funny when a female hits something or is unable to park, while a guy gets so much compassion when their car is dented! please explain

ps. im not frustrated or mad or anything, just want to know

and i cant understand how its so laugh-out-loud funny when a female hits something or is unable to park, while a guy gets so much compassion when their car is dented! please explain
Stereotypes. And i'm sorry, but until high school girls stop wrapping Eclipses around trees (it happens here a lot more than you think) it's not going to stop. My mom in her late 40s drives a 530i. She's the calmest driver i've ever rode with.

Grow a penis sweetheart, then you'll be a good driver. :D :lol:

ugh. typical boy

thu, we're just retarded x]

History of gender issues is pretty f*ked up, try reading Howard Zinn (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnint6.html)

I love my girl, I'm sorry for the crap she has to deal with.

thu, we're just retarded x]

i totally agree! admitting you are compensates for all the mean posts on here : )

just go slow and turn the wheel slowly in a smooth motion. You could also enroll for a driver enhancment class if u really wanted to improve.

Try making your car "extend" a little bit to the road before you turn right. It'll help.

And before you make that right turn, always keep in mind those thousands and thousands of curbs you've hit in your life. It'll help remind you that they exist. :D

I hope your cute.....then it makes it ok.......go to the DnV on the weekend and just have fun on the empty track....it'll help you not be so scared of driving....

That's *man* to you little lady.


ugh. typical boy

That's *man* to you little lady.


ugh. typical boy

no i meant boy!!

and i cAnt measure/see my car guys, thats why im hitting these curbs. i dont think driving courses is gonna make me see any better!





and can we talk about your driving issues not just mine!!! this post was meant for people to admit theyre not good drivers sometimes!!!!! lol

P.S....my spatial perception is really good, but that has to do with the fact that im a mechanic, and i drive cars in and out of the shop all day......but seriously when i started out driving i was horrible...yada yada yada.....i hit a parked car.........in my drive-way......but now im an excellent driver, never caused an accident, never curb rashed my any of my cars.....Just takes time i guess...

When I turn right, I don't hit curbs. I mostly hit people trying to cross the street. :P

It is because I always look to the left when I'm about to turn right and only look to the right when I already stepped on the gas. :nails:

i usually take all turns going fast, just because i love taking turns fast, but i have never curbed a wheel. your supposed to use your side mirrors when parking, or at least i do and it has worked for me.

if you cant see over your hood, then i think its time for you to get another car, maybe something smaller. as far as im concerned, it seems that your taking this as a joke, but it isnt, if you cant drive correctly that you really shouldnt be driving at all.

you dont have to see over the hood of your car to drive, you just need to take the necessary precautions. damn, homie, you take things way too seriously since your accident

And before you make that right turn, always keep in mind those thousands and thousands of curbs you've hit in your life. It'll help remind you that they exist. :D

Amen, brother, I don't even have aftermarket wheels and the ONE rash experience I had scarred me for life. I take all my turns around tall curbs pretty friggin wide now! lol.

Better safe than sorry... that's my motto, makes me a boring person but whatever, I'm a boring person with wheels in excellent condition :P

i drive slow, turn slow, change lane slow(bad thing), etc everything slow. curbs suck and so does parallel parking. how od you know when to turn the wheel?

use your mirrors

all you can really do is get familiar with your car

cant see the back end

practice?

lol with my accord, ive tried manyt times

D: use cones or something to practice. better yet, get some friends to help x]

hahaha they think im helpless. i need more than a miracle

yeah it is mostly just practice. I have a great feel for where my car is and how close it is to things outside of it. It sounds to me like you just turn the wheel to early and to hard. MAKE WIDER TURNS. and if you continue to hit the curb while turning on a red light, then just wait a few seconds for your light to turn green then you can make a comfortable turn. yes it is legal to turn on red lights but it is ILLEGAL to drive on the sidewalk. :silly:

When’s the last time you had an eye exam? Bad eyesight could be the cause of your lack of depth perception.

And before you make that right turn, always keep in mind those thousands and thousands of curbs you've hit in your life. It'll help remind you that they exist. :D

Amen, brother, I don't even have aftermarket wheels and the ONE rash experience I had scarred me for life. I take all my turns around tall curbs pretty friggin wide now! lol.

Better safe than sorry... that's my motto, makes me a boring person but whatever, I'm a boring person with wheels in excellent condition :P
LoL! I make my right turns wide now. It may look stupid on the road and people may think I'm a student driver who can't make decent right turns. :P

thUsLw, maybe get prescription glasses?

What my dad had me do to practice getting used to the car (and to help me parallel) is find an empty parking lot and drive around on reverse. I'm not talking about going straight, but make a path around the lot islands turns and all. You'll get funny looks if there is a security guard in the building (one came out while I was driving reverse around and stared at me as if I was crazy). Then after you've gotten used to driving around backwards, use cones (or those big plastic trash cans (closer to height of other cars)) and set up a space for you to parallel into. After all that, I was pretty comfortable parallel parking (sadly, it also made me more comfortable, and better, driving reverse than forward). After getting comfortable with the trash cans or cones, try actually parallel parking between cars. Find a gap that's big between cars, so you get the hang of it again and just parallel in. Getting nervous and panicy just makes it harder, so just relax and let whatever you learned with the trash cans/cones take over and before you know it, you will have paralleled. =D Good luck and have fun driving on reverse (it's fun!).

You might want to go back to riding a tricycle.

i do agree to an extent driving backwards is fun(done it before), but hand eye coordination is bad. i backed out my driveway and hit the fence completely tearing off my front bumper. : (...

i do agree to an extent driving backwards is fun(done it before), but hand eye coordination is bad. i backed out my driveway and hit the fence completely tearing off my front bumper. : (...
Do you mind taking pictures of your car? I just wanna see how your car looks like.

i do agree to an extent driving backwards is fun(done it before), but hand eye coordination is bad. i backed out my driveway and hit the fence completely tearing off my front bumper. : (...
Do you mind taking pictures of your car? I just wanna see how your car looks like.


this was my previous vehicle. i try not to damage my tC. so far ive only scratched up my rims

^^ Ahh,,,, I feel relieved..... :P

scratched rims, door dings, and bird poop... I feel as bad for my car... I kept it immaculately clean the first 6 months... but it got beat up once I went off to college =[

if you curb your wheels more than once, your license should be revoked.

:P i just have a short attention span thats all

god bless george bush and his 'no child left behind' policy...

god bless America!

*edit* and while I'm on my soap box

god bless Television and

god bless Paris Hilton!

I guess on a more serious note, some people have issues with depth perception... next time youre at the eye dr's, ask him/her if you have issues with depth perception, that could be the cause of you "not being able to measure your car".
Honestly, when you drive, dont try so hard... I think youll be fine then.

I'm glad you're in Missouri.

Ditto. I'll stay on my side of the state line, you stay on yours. :P

haha thanks for the advices/tips guys.... but im everywhere in missouri so watch out!.. and i think driving sucks butt.. i'd rather have a chauffer!

if you curb your wheels more than once, your license should be revoked.


i bet you curbed check twice

I think some people need to get these stickers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CAUTION-I-SWERVE-AND-HIT-Decals-Decal-Sticker-Stickers_W0QQitemZ190052962599QQihZ009QQcategoryZ50449QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3008/14081b961085evv6.jpg

i dont hit people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stay out of the south! lol ... i have a friend that's worse than u... he totaled his car before the first oil change... bought a brand new one... then killed his steelies on a curb... i obviously dont drive with him lol

i've hit my rear rim on my passenger rear side a few time from turning to close to the curb

as far as im concerned, it seems that your taking this as a joke, but it isnt, if you cant drive correctly that you really shouldnt be driving at all.

Exactly. Here, this may help your motivation some: Don't think of a car as transportation, think of it as a 3100 lb KILLING MACHINE!!!!!

Your car is potentially one of the most lethal things that will ever be in your control. It can kill, maim, and completely ruin the lives of mulitiple people in nearly an infinite number of ways. You can rob a mother of her son, deny a child the right to a parent, put people in wheel chairs for the rest of their life or a coma for 6 mos only to escape the jaws of death with a $300,000 hospital bill.

You need your eyes examined and basic training or a bus pass. Sorry, I don't buy the "I just can't do it", or any of the other excuses people use to "justify" their bad driving. If you drive bad, then sell the car or learn to drive well. There is zero room for negotiation here.

The lady was addressing the issue, most others turned it into a joke.

I guess I shouldn't be driving because I curbed my passenger side 3 times.

Be a good driver, not because you fear the consequences but because you value life. It should not take drastic circumstances for people to value life, but unfortunately that seems to be the case for most people out there.

"There is zero room for negotiation here" is a load of crock that's rhetoric straight from aged politics where things are "black and white." Driving has become a necessity and if you're a bad driver and realize it like Thu, then you become more cautious and take the necessary precautions to be a better driver.

Yet, to me, it seems the case is not about driving but life values, but hey values are "relative" and everyone's got their own thing.

hehehe... I've been following this forum from the begining. Today I hit a curb getting out from publix and immediatly remembered you, thUsLw. I was on my own, but I laught so much... :rofl: yeah, it happens...

There is zero room for negotiation here" is a load of crock that's rhetoric straight from aged politics where things are "black and white."

Normally I'd agree with you that breaking things down to b&w is a bad thing, but when it comes to dangers invovled in driving (number one cause of death for folks <18) I disagree. Like learning to shoot a gun or sky dive, you learn to do it safe or not at all.

It's good that she recognizes her defiiciencies, however it does appear that she is making light of it, and that's the issue I have. It seems like she's blowing it off and saying, "well, I'm a bad driver, nothing I can do about that."

Remember when the old guy ran through the market in his car and killed 8 folks, including a few kids? Some people were saying, "well he's old..." I was thinking, "and?" Everyone on the road should be held to the same standard, irregaurdless of age/gender. You either can see the eye chart or you can't. You either learn to tell where you car is in space, or you bum rides.

Driving is not a necessaty, although many people have constructed their lives such that they have made it one. Believe it or not, there's still people >30 and 40 years old that have never driven a car and they seem to manage to live perfectly normal lives. It's a priviledge, and should be taken as seriously as cancer.

When lives are at stake, I cut no slack, sorry.

Then I'm surprised you're not out there avidly protesting the war, abortion, euthenasia, gang violence, domestic issues that lead to drug abuse and violent life styles... this list could go on... but let's not go there.

Well I agree that I take life seriously, but I do my best to live w/o regrets. If I get maimed, I get maimed, if I die, I die. If it happens to others, it is tragic and I agree we should prevent that from happening.

It's easy to say "go without driving," but then I guess "bad driving" needs to be redefined to "incapable of driving." If that were the case she should not have been given a license. 30% of the drivers on the road don't have licenses. Traffic school is extremely logical and needs to be taken seriously. Driver training needs to be taken seriously. I may curb my passenger side every now and then but that does not mean I don't pay attention to my surroundings. I'm often more aware of pedestrians, bystanders, and other cars around me than anyone else I drive with.

I agree driving is a priviledge. All life is a priviledge. Often times it's hard to realize that as social beings who are easily swayed by media, social traditions, and trends.

Anyways, there is no point in arguing. I just hope you all drive safely. I respect your point of view, but I think it too rigid, that's all.

Then I'm surprised you're not out there avidly protesting the war, abortion, euthenasia, gang violence, domestic issues that lead to drug abuse and violent life styles... this list could go on... but let's not go there.

I think most people realize the seriousness of these events.

My point, and I apoligize I haven't made it more clear, is that too many teens today are too flipant about the seriousness of driving. That's all I'm really saying, trying to get more people to take it much more seriously.

And I place that blame squarely on the shoulders of the parents who let their teens drive when they don't have a clue as to how they are driving. Personally, I'd love to see getting a license be tons more difficult. 6 months to a year of training followed up by extensive testing. And periodic checks as we age for sanity, sight, and hearing.

This is how I look at it: Every single time you get in a car, there is a statisitcal probability >0 that you will get into a wreck. It will never ever be 0. There is nothing you can do that will eliminate your chances completely of getting into a wreck. However, the things you do while driving (or don't do) will either bring you closer to 0 or further away. I'm just trying to get more people to do more things to bring that chance closer to zero. That's all.

Sorry for piling on here, not taking the act of driving serious is just a major sticking point for me. and btw, I'm 34, been driving since I was 15, and have never been in a wreck. I have avoided several, but always managed to avoid it. And I seperate the times I was lucky (there have been a few) from the times I have actively avoided the wreck because of what was doing or not doing (there have been way more than a few).

My sister on the other hand has been in 5 (all sober, she just tailgates and doesn't pay attention), and if I could revoke her license, I would.

100% agreed!

First off, for clarification, Ive NEVER hit anyone before. And from the past fews posts i see you guys are giving me tips about taking driving lesssons and telling me to get my eyes examined. Fact is that i feel it is unnecessary since I've only gotten one ticket (28 on a 20) since i started driving and i do not race or speed while driving. Not to say that i don't need it of course. To my knowledge i presume i have decent sightings. Like i said before I am only unable to see the front of my passenger side, therefore, i curb check. If in any case bad driving means curb checking, unable to park, or any of that, then i gladly admit that I'm a bad driver. Although I dont pay much attention to my changing lanes, i do use blinkers and am aware that there are cars around me. MY definition of bad driving only consists of the minor errors people make driving daily. But i can tell you there are worse ones out there who are even worse than i am. Street racing for instance is guaranteed worse than a few curb checks. Running stop signs is another example of "bad" driving. There are so many other things to rag about and I'm assuming you guys think i am one of those drivers. Well I'm not!

I do agree however that there is always a chance of me getting into a wreck and driving school is necessary for certain people. But I'm not one of them. I opened this forum topic to get insights and opinions on how i can become better at it. I also wanted people to have a sense of humor and laugh at what they do sometimes.

This topic, as i can tell, is beginning to get serious, so I will too

Although I dont pay much attention to my changing lanes, i do use blinkers and am aware that there are cars around me

This is what I'm talking about. Paying attention is a choice, not an involuntary reflex or something that just happens or doesn't happen. You choose to not pay attention. So what advice do you seek? Just pay attention.

I completely agree that the street racers are probably 1000 times more dangerous than what you do, but let's be real here. All it takes is one time. Just once, and a dozen lives can take a horrible turn for the worse.

The topic turned serious because driving is serious. You choose to drive how you drive and you choose to make the decisions you make.

First off, for clarification, Ive NEVER hit anyone before.
I'm sure you haven't, but you forgot one little word on the end of the sentence: Yet. You've been driving only a few years, and if life is good to you, you will drive another 50 plus years. Let that ring in your head for a second: 50 or more years of driving left to do. That's a whole lot of lane changes that you freely admit that you choose not to pay attention to. How long do you think your luck will run?

I'm a fair driver. I curb checked once and recently effed up the rack & pinion system. I took a turn with too much understeer and ended up halfway on the center median. Those things are everywhere in Texas, never been? then you wouldn't know. Just takes things slow. Ease into the turn and give yourself los of time.

When I started driving at 15, I drive to get better at driving. So everytime I'm behind the wheel, I am practicing to perfect my skills. You just need to get used to how your car peforms or acts in every situation. Picture your car from the outside. You'll curb check here and there if you've done it once there's a chance you'll do it again. But since I lowered my tC I'm much more cautious.

Well not during that night where I landed on the center median at 2 in the wet morning.

its OK, girls were never good drivers, im pretty sure its genetic. At least you've got the guts to admit it

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[please everyone realize i am just kidding]

I know ur kiddin :p but i know some girls that can outdrive most guys anyday :)

Curb checkin = not so bad.

not seeing the grand cherokee easing up behind you on the left when you go to change lanes at 70 mph on a highway could be disasterous.

scionofPCFL, i know im still young and i know one day it will happen, which is why im asking people how can i improve with my driving and whatever else that is necessary for me to become a better driver. I do appreciate my life and i try not to take it for granted. Just dont automatically assume im a bad driver all around just because ive made a few mistakes

i rubbed a few curbs in my old car. i have yet to hit anything in my tc. i think i'm a better drive now than i was last year. i was an agressive/fast driver then a family member past in an accident and it woke me up real quick

thUsLw, I hear what you're saying, I'm not assuming anything, and going by strictly what you are saying. It's good that you at least admit your faults, don't get me wrong. Sorry I was harsh, but the light tone earlier in the thread had me worried with the level of seriousness you took your responsibilities as a driver.

You ask for advice, and here it is, pay attention. Turn the cell and radio off when you get in the car (just for a little bit till you get the hang of the techniques I'll describe in a minute). Focus on what's going on. I don't know how to advise someone on how to focus on the road other than to do it.

Don't stare at the car directly in front of you, look several cars down the way. When you see the 3rd car in front of you break, chances are the car directly in front of you will be breaking soon as well.

To keep your mind from wandering, observe what's happening all around you. Check your rearview mirror at least once every 5 sec, and your other mirrors right after that. Take note as to who is around you. If something is static in your mirrors, it's moving at the same speed as you, and is not a threat.

You are looking for what others are doing, and trying to guess their intentions as to whether or not they are going to be a threat to you and your car; do they look like they're gonna cut you off, where do they seem like they want to go, that type of thing.

And please do take a deffensive driving course, you'd be surprised what you get out of it.

I'm a firm believer that smart people (level headed, common sense, went to college etc.) are better drivers then the less fortunate who are not smart. Let's say about half the people in America are not intelligent individuals, we can assume we are driving with a lot of idiots. I know I do every day. Just this week, some guy tried to merge into my lane at a friggin' stop light. I'm like 'uuummmmm, hello???' then I layed on the horn and gave him the bird.

Horah for autonation USA. I miss England.

lol. i feel you on that,

so are you assuming that race play a huge role in driving skills becuase if you were referring to "smart people", then that knocks out many races in america since they dont go to school/college. IE, immigrants

I'm a firm believer that smart people (level headed, common sense, went to college etc.) are better drivers then the less fortunate who are not smart......

I agree with the “level headed” aspect, but not necessarily the rest of that statement. Take NASCAR for example…….

lol. i feel you on that,

so are you assuming that race play a huge role in driving skills becuase if you were referring to "smart people", then that knocks out many races in america since they dont go to school/college. IE, immigrants

Holy jingoism Batman! :shock:

spatial perception is an ability that comes naturally to some people, thuslw. if it doesn't come naturally to you, then it takes some extra work on your part to develop it. as already stated, practice in a parking lot with traffic cones can help immensely. the more you practice maneuvering in tight spaces, you'll notice the curb contact taper off. don't get frustrated if you slip up now and then. as an aside, please keep track of everything around you, and make sure to look in the direction you're turning before you're in the turn.

agreed.
Growing up with Gran Turismo on the Ps1 definitely helped me with driving once I became a driver. For instance, knowing how far to turn the wheel so I can successfully line up my car and merge into another lane at a stop light (Not just point the front of the car at the person in front's rear bumper, causing you to take up 2 lanes). If roads were more fun to drive, driving would not be such a damned chore. In consequence, we'd all become better drivers! Horah!

IF ROADS WERE WIDER I'D BE THE PERFECT DRIVER!!!!!!!! ( maybe not)

yeah you gotta watch them curbs they'll jump in front of you quick

funny funny thread lol Ive caught myself changing lanes not paying attention quite a few times... maybe its the "i own the road mentality" lol

i own the road. lol. more liek it owns me

haha this is true...

What a strange thread...

I have been rear ended twice, and totalled my truck once, rate me as you will.

girls are generally bad drivers hahah :D lucky for me im more like a boy ^-^

:rofl:

Ok, for starters you need to make sure you are operating the vehicle in the way it was intended. First thing you need to check: Seating position. When in the driver's seat, you should be able to hold the wheel with your left hand, and the shifter in your right without having to lift your shoulder blades off the back of the seat. Second: Headturning. When you take a turn, try not to shift your head to the left or right, but keep it straight with the rest of your back. When you negotiate a turn, and you let your head shift, it changes your perspective on the apex of the turn, thereby causing you the driver to misjudge your steering. Third: Use both hands to guide your vehicle...one hand on the wheel does not make you any cooler, it just gives you less control over the vehicle, and makes it easier for you to get distracted. Fourth: Slow down and reduce distractions. There is no need to speed all over town, if it could cause you, or someone else, harm in the long run. Reduce cell phone use while driving, and try to wait to change cds, etc., until you are at a lot, or some other point where you can do so.

I hope this helps out, just try to take your time, and gain a natural feeling for driving your car and you will be ok.

You could get those curb scrapers like they had in the old days... just attach em by your wheels and when you get close to a curb, you will hear them scraping instead of your wheels. :-)

Reduce cell phone use while driving, and try to wait to change cds, etc., until you are at a lot, or some other point where you can do so.

Ive never put in a cd let alone change one in my car : /


oh, i got hit a little over a week ago : (

im guessing most people think im a bad driver at my school considering i wrecked doing something stupid.


most people are ignorant and judge you on one mistake you made in the past when on the road you can outdrive them any day. i have yet to hit another car/hit a curb/hurt my vehicle.


i wrecked doing something stupid and learned my lesson. i could outdrive about 78% of the people at my school yet everytime they get in the car with me after driving 10 minutes they say "your allot better driver than i thought."


if you rub the curb allot and ____ heres what you should do. pick a point in the middle of your hood on the car. line that up with the curb/left of the curb and you will be in the middle of the road all the time. just pick a spot on the end of your hood thats about in the middle and line it up with the curb. i herd that from someone and it helped me stay
in the middle of the road and after a while you get a natural feel for the road and dont have to.

just my 2 cents =]

^^bad rep goes farrr.. some people are really mean about it too.. i get harrassed often : ( (not physically)

lol people make fun of me cuz i'm asian and "asian" drivers are suppose to be bad...well after they were left behind that all stopped haha

im asian!! and a female!!!!!

lol people make fun of me cuz i'm asian and "asian" drivers are suppose to be bad...well after they were left behind that all stopped haha

Being able to take a corner at 90 or out accelerating the car next to you does not equate to "good driving". Good driving is driving for dozens of years and millions of miles w/o getting into a wreck.

good driving is being able to not get in a wreck. great driving is when you should of been in a wreck and driving your way out of it.

how about if ur at a stop light and u r stopped on a one way single lane and someone from behind hits you doing 50 on a 25? It happened to me, but i don't think im a bad driver. I also hate those tuners groupies that drive 3x faster than everyone else on the freeway that weave in and out of traffic like in the movies. i wish i had a big gun and a gunner on top of my box to shoot them down. what if one of them lost control? then i would be dead...

how about if ur at a stop light and u r stopped on a one way single lane and someone from behind hits you doing 50 on a 25? It happened to me, but i don't think im a bad driver. I also hate those tuners groupies that drive 3x faster than everyone else on the freeway that weave in and out of traffic like in the movies. i wish i had a big gun and a gunner on top of my box to shoot them down. what if one of them lost control? then i would be dead...


That's unfortunate, and in no way would reflect on your driving skills. Now, if you were stopped in the middle of the pacific coast highway, that would be different story.

not sure if this is considered as bad driving, well my actions were probably uncalled for......but i was driving down a street and some guy in front of me pulls left onto a turning lane. so i speed up a bit in traffic and the guy in the turning lane sped up also. in my head i was like wthell is he doing, hes almost at his turn. so i keep driving (39 on a 35) and then the guy just swerves over with no turning signals like he doesnt even know im next to him and pulls in front so i slammed hard on the breaks. i was so ____ed off so i changed lanes pulled to his side, gave him the finger and cut him off.. i drove slowly for about a minute in front of him and everytime he changed lanes, i changed with him....it was way too early in the morning and he made me mad...

not sure if this is considered as bad driving, well my actions were probably uncalled for......but i was driving down a street and some guy in front of me pulls left onto a turning lane. so i speed up a bit in traffic and the guy in the turning lane sped up also. in my head i was like wthell is he doing, hes almost at his turn. so i keep driving (39 on a 35) and then the guy just swerves over with no turning signals like he doesnt even know im next to him and pulls in front so i slammed hard on the breaks. i was so ____ed off so i changed lanes pulled to his side, gave him the finger and cut him off.. i drove slowly for about a minute in front of him and everytime he changed lanes, i changed with him....it was way too early in the morning and he made me mad...

I’m guessing that the other person didn’t know what they were doing (is it this turn? Next turn? Where am I? I’m lost!) and wasn’t driving to try to ____ you off. It’s a good start that you noticed erratic driving and thought about it. So why didn’t the thought cross your mind that this guy might try to merge back into traffic? Instead of speeding up to keep next to him, you should have slowed down and given some room just in case.

Sure you’re ____ed that he just cut you off, I would be too. So why did you think it would be a good idea to pass him, give him the finger, cut him off, slow down, and block? What he did was possibly accidental bad driving, what you did was intentional bad driving.

You’re lucky that this situation didn’t end with him running you off the road and then beating you senseless with a tire-iron. I’d guess that the majority of “road rage victims” had instigated the situation in one way or another.

not sure if this is considered as bad driving, well my actions were probably uncalled for......but i was driving down a street and some guy in front of me pulls left onto a turning lane. so i speed up a bit in traffic and the guy in the turning lane sped up also. in my head i was like wthell is he doing, hes almost at his turn. so i keep driving (39 on a 35) and then the guy just swerves over with no turning signals like he doesnt even know im next to him and pulls in front so i slammed hard on the breaks. i was so ____ed off so i changed lanes pulled to his side, gave him the finger and cut him off.. i drove slowly for about a minute in front of him and everytime he changed lanes, i changed with him....it was way too early in the morning and he made me mad...

thats not bad driving. its just revenge. but You do need to be careful doing something like that.
He should have payed more attention, and used his signals.

A girl I know here, who drives a tC, completely destroyed a green sedan a few days ago. I can't help but label her as a bad driver, as she's quite ditzy in person, and has damaged her tC before. Despite it being a tC, I wish she'd total it and buy an Eclipse or Celica. :P She always gets away with a dent, meanwhile this green car was missing it's entire left side.

This is just a suggestion really, but I think that people who don't really "get" where there car is, like THuSLW, should consider driving smaller cars. Big cars are much more difficult to drive because it requires being aware of more things and having better depth perception.

My mom isnt the best driver at all, she had a nissan sentra, and she even scratched stuff with that car. When she upgraded to her acura tl at 1.5 times the length, I told her I was worried she'd hit more stuff. Luckily she has been extremely careful about driving the new car and always pays careful attention now (she's learnt her lesson, and admits it).

I also feel that a very low seating position can make it difficult to have a good idea of where your hood ends, or even of your vehicles turning radius, so I'd recommend adjusting your seat accordingly.

Lastly... please don't get an SUV. My past experience tells me that it is difficult to drive a vehicle such as a van or SUV/ Truck because smaller/ lower vehicles are even harder to identify in your blind spots. One time with my tC, I was trying to merge onto the interstate and had just taken the on-ramp.. I pulled up along side a Ford Exedition... it turns out he needed to get into the same lane I was in and started merging into my lane while I was still beside them... almost forcing me off the road. I can tell you that it was plainly obvious that his windows were above the roofline of my car..which means he couldnt see me when he glanced over. Thats situation wasn't my fault...it was his (or hers I don't know) because they werent aware of my cars location, because they werent actively scanning the road on either side of them.

I believe that people should only drive vehicles they are completely capable of driving... and that almost all SUVs and some vans are more difficult to drive than small and mid-size sedans. I think that stats should do more to qualify drivers, and that it would help to have multiple classes of vehicle licenses, that align with different sizes of vehicles. This way, better and more conscientious drivers would get certified on bigger vehicles, and those who don't care/ can't handle medium-large vehicles would still qualify for driving small-midsize sedans.

I also think there might be a better (although probably not as awesome of a vehicle that suits your driving habits ThuSLw. Maybe try a Mini next time. Thats a pretty small car but still fun to drive (according to others). Just my 2 cents.

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Thats a lot of laughing.

1. what is that guy lauhing at? me? : /
2. I sit highest i can and very straight.
3. Cant drive with 2 hands, the right one gets tired easily and i start to swerve
4. this car is smaller than my previous...
5. i would never get an SUV, youre right its too big

Its good you would never get an SUV.
I almost never drive with two hands... unless im driving really fast... like 120... hehe (I almost never take it up that much, only if Im going to St.Joe or something)
I always just use my left hand to drive.

I gots to drives wid only my left hand. I cock my arm straight so as to 'shield' me from the other drivers and I can duck my head beneath it. My right hand is free for..well..recreational purposes.

if there's one thing this thread reminded me of, is the very unfair bias in car insurance.


this is the one subject i am bitter about. females need to pay double what we pay damn it.

First off, for clarification, Ive NEVER hit anyone before. And from the past fews posts i see you guys are giving me tips about taking driving lesssons and telling me to get my eyes examined. Fact is that i feel it is unnecessary since I've only gotten one ticket (28 on a 20) since i started driving and i do not race or speed while driving. Not to say that i don't need it of course. To my knowledge i presume i have decent sightings. Like i said before I am only unable to see the front of my passenger side, therefore, i curb check. If in any case bad driving means curb checking, unable to park, or any of that, then i gladly admit that I'm a bad driver. Although I dont pay much attention to my changing lanes, i do use blinkers and am aware that there are cars around me. MY definition of bad driving only consists of the minor errors people make driving daily. But i can tell you there are worse ones out there who are even worse than i am. Street racing for instance is guaranteed worse than a few curb checks. Running stop signs is another example of "bad" driving. There are so many other things to rag about and I'm assuming you guys think i am one of those drivers. Well I'm not!

I do agree however that there is always a chance of me getting into a wreck and driving school is necessary for certain people. But I'm not one of them. I opened this forum topic to get insights and opinions on how i can become better at it. I also wanted people to have a sense of humor and laugh at what they do sometimes.

This topic, as i can tell, is beginning to get serious, so I will too

i had a friend survive a dump truck that rolled over and went head on to his parents SUV after someone cut him off. it seems he didnt "notice" the dump truck.

luck or god, or whatever was on his side, and noone died/got severly hurt.


either learn patience and PAY attention to the roads, or hand over your license. how would you feel if someone cut off your mom or dad, they swerved and hit something/someone and they died or got severely hurt? now apply that to someone outside your own family.

after survivng several accident that i swear death was upon me, it's drivers such as your self i dislike and at times i wonder why women pay less than men do for insurance.

First off, for clarification, Ive NEVER hit anyone before. And from the past fews posts i see you guys are giving me tips about taking driving lesssons and telling me to get my eyes examined. Fact is that i feel it is unnecessary since I've only gotten one ticket (28 on a 20) since i started driving and i do not race or speed while driving. Not to say that i don't need it of course. To my knowledge i presume i have decent sightings. Like i said before I am only unable to see the front of my passenger side, therefore, i curb check. If in any case bad driving means curb checking, unable to park, or any of that, then i gladly admit that I'm a bad driver. Although I dont pay much attention to my changing lanes, i do use blinkers and am aware that there are cars around me. MY definition of bad driving only consists of the minor errors people make driving daily. But i can tell you there are worse ones out there who are even worse than i am. Street racing for instance is guaranteed worse than a few curb checks. Running stop signs is another example of "bad" driving. There are so many other things to rag about and I'm assuming you guys think i am one of those drivers. Well I'm not!

I do agree however that there is always a chance of me getting into a wreck and driving school is necessary for certain people. But I'm not one of them. I opened this forum topic to get insights and opinions on how i can become better at it. I also wanted people to have a sense of humor and laugh at what they do sometimes.

This topic, as i can tell, is beginning to get serious, so I will too

i had a friend survive a dump truck that rolled over and went head on to his parents SUV after someone cut him off. it seems he didnt "notice" the dump truck.

luck or god, or whatever was on his side, and noone died/got severly hurt.


either learn patience and PAY attention to the roads, or hand over your license. how would you feel if someone cut off your mom or dad, they swerved and hit something/someone and they died or got severely hurt? now apply that to someone outside your own family.

after survivng several accident that i swear death was upon me, it's drivers such as your self i dislike and at times i wonder why women pay less than men do for insurance.

i will be the better person here and disregard your lack of understanding of my situation. once again, this thread was not opened to have people like you judge/comment, and dis on me, and other females. it was intended for admitting that people do make mistakes at times and they can laugh about it. if you wonder why females pay less insurance than males, then why dont you go look up the numerous attempts at street racing, or speeding tickets, etc, and compare the two. it is also a known fact that males tend to drive more than females, which increases the risk of getting into an accident, therefore, they pay more for insurance. if you'd liek to keep arguing, please pm me.

no offense to other guys.

ITS NOT TRUE THAT ALL WOMEN ARE BAD DRIVERS :no: . I HAVE KNOWN TOO MANY BUT TOO MANY GUYS THAT ARE HORRIBLE AT DRIVING. ONE OF MY FRIEND ONCE HE GOT HES CAR HE WOULD GO LIKE 20MPH ON A SPEED LIMIT OF 40MPH. I HAVE SEEN MANY LIKE HIM THAT MAKES ME WANNA TAKE THE WHEEL . IN ONE MONTH HE HAD 2 ACCIDENT IN ONE HE WAS BACKING UP AND HIT A WATER PUMP THAT WAS HES LAST ACCIDENT BECAUSE THEY DECLARE THE CAR TOTAL LOSS. ANOTHER IS A GUY FROM WORK THAT SOMETIMES GIVES ME A RIDE, HES REALLY REALLY SLOW AND DRIVES WITH HES TWO FEETS, ONE ON THE GAS AND THE OTHER ON THE BRAKES. PLUS HE HITS THE BRAKES EVERY MINUTES EVEN IF HE DOSENT HAVE ANYONE INFRONT OF HIM. <----- THOSE ARE REALLY BAD DRIVERS, AND ARE GUYS PLUS US GIRLS ARE NOT BAD DRIVERS WE JUST CARE A LOT ABOUT OUR CARS TO MESS IT UP :P


PLUS I ADMIT TOO IM A SCARY DRIVER, IM NOT SLOW , BUT I TEND TO SPEED UP ON CURVES :P

All of these driver's are dangerous:

1) Alpha dork male who get's p'od when someone goes a shade bit quicker than he, so he speeds up...then the other ADM get's p'od because this moron just went a little faster, so the other ADM goes a little faster, then.......which leads to number 2:

2) Doofus racer boy/girl who thinks it's cool to go 80 in a 30 where there are numerous side streets and businesses where type 3 drivers could pop out of nowhere at a moment's notice, and tragedy ensues.

3) Ditzy goofball who thinks their car is made of Nerf and that the world is bubble wrapped, so it doesn't matter if they bump into everything, so they don't bother to pay attention to anything outside of their car, so they don't notice the ADM's traveling 80 in their 30 zones, and then tragedy ensues.

They are all dangerous folks. All of them. Male or female, it doesn't matter. And yes, you can have female ADMs, and you can you have male ditzy goofballs (I was roommates with one in college....5 days after grandma gives him a one year old Camry, he destroys the driver's side mirror while backing out of the garage.)


BTW, if you were to do a study of every accident in the past 20 years, I'd lay dollars to dougnuts that one or more of the above types were involved in 90+% of all those accidents.

I guess I have to put Im a bad driver up here now due to the lunch incident today.
Grr.

incident ^^^

-your friendly spelling/grammar police

haha thanks I will change it.

you know iRobin, if this was the 'im a bad speller and i admit it' thread , then i can totally understand why youre replying in here. : ).

thank goodness for grammer police

Oh boy thanks ThuSlw.

ITS NOT TRUE THAT ALL WOMEN ARE BAD DRIVERS :no: . I HAVE KNOWN TOO MANY BUT TOO MANY GUYS THAT ARE HORRIBLE AT DRIVING. ONE OF MY FRIEND ONCE HE GOT HES CAR HE WOULD GO LIKE 20MPH ON A SPEED LIMIT OF 40MPH. I HAVE SEEN MANY LIKE HIM THAT MAKES ME WANNA TAKE THE WHEEL . IN ONE MONTH HE HAD 2 ACCIDENT IN ONE HE WAS BACKING UP AND HIT A WATER PUMP THAT WAS HES LAST ACCIDENT BECAUSE THEY DECLARE THE CAR TOTAL LOSS. ANOTHER IS A GUY FROM WORK THAT SOMETIMES GIVES ME A RIDE, HES REALLY REALLY SLOW AND DRIVES WITH HES TWO FEETS, ONE ON THE GAS AND THE OTHER ON THE BRAKES. PLUS HE HITS THE BRAKES EVERY MINUTES EVEN IF HE DOSENT HAVE ANYONE INFRONT OF HIM. <----- THOSE ARE REALLY BAD DRIVERS, AND ARE GUYS PLUS US GIRLS ARE NOT BAD DRIVERS WE JUST CARE A LOT ABOUT OUR CARS TO MESS IT UP :P


PLUS I ADMIT TOO IM A SCARY DRIVER, IM NOT SLOW , BUT I TEND TO SPEED UP ON CURVES :P

WHY ARE YOU YELLING? lol jk

yeah, everyone drives at their own pace i suppose. thank you for stickin up for females!! +1.
oh and the guy driving with 2 feet, :rofl: ....my friend does that with his automatic too haha

ITS NOT TRUE THAT ALL WOMEN ARE BAD DRIVERS :no: . I HAVE KNOWN TOO MANY BUT TOO MANY GUYS THAT ARE HORRIBLE AT DRIVING. ONE OF MY FRIEND ONCE HE GOT HES CAR HE WOULD GO LIKE 20MPH ON A SPEED LIMIT OF 40MPH. I HAVE SEEN MANY LIKE HIM THAT MAKES ME WANNA TAKE THE WHEEL . IN ONE MONTH HE HAD 2 ACCIDENT IN ONE HE WAS BACKING UP AND HIT A WATER PUMP THAT WAS HES LAST ACCIDENT BECAUSE THEY DECLARE THE CAR TOTAL LOSS. ANOTHER IS A GUY FROM WORK THAT SOMETIMES GIVES ME A RIDE, HES REALLY REALLY SLOW AND DRIVES WITH HES TWO FEETS, ONE ON THE GAS AND THE OTHER ON THE BRAKES. PLUS HE HITS THE BRAKES EVERY MINUTES EVEN IF HE DOSENT HAVE ANYONE INFRONT OF HIM. <----- THOSE ARE REALLY BAD DRIVERS, AND ARE GUYS PLUS US GIRLS ARE NOT BAD DRIVERS WE JUST CARE A LOT ABOUT OUR CARS TO MESS IT UP :P


PLUS I ADMIT TOO IM A SCARY DRIVER, IM NOT SLOW , BUT I TEND TO SPEED UP ON CURVES :P
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i scraped. darn lowered cars

haha maybe you do need to learn how to drive thuslw.
:D

lol speak for yourself. i am going to make fun of you when you get your car lowered,cause i for sure know theres going to be serious scraping goin on, oh yes. oh yes muahhahaaha

Well good thing your in another state or I'll have to keep an eye out when I'm on the sidewalk. It's bad luck getting ran over on the sidewalk by a Scion, esp. when a girl is behind the wheel.

hahahahahahaha Thu you know Im a better driver than you so dont even go there. :D

Well good thing your in another state or I'll have to keep an eye out when I'm on the sidewalk. It's bad luck getting ran over on the sidewalk by a Scion, esp. when a girl is behind the wheel.


whats wrong with female drivers??

and iRobin, hush up.

Is that all you got Thu? haha

oh i have more, ill just keep it to myself though. you dont want to hear it

hahaha yeah, your probably right.
:D