Anyone heard of anything on these?

Just went and dug up the info for the Corolla... 13.xx gal tank. 30/38 city/hwy. Probably a good a guess as any.

The pic of the brochure in the Xd haters thread says its a smaller gas tank and worse gas milage

Well they are hating on it, of course it'll suck in that thread!

Well, the gas tank is still larger than that of the Fit's, and the mileage is probably estimated according to the new EPA methods and with a more powerful engine; as slight decrease is still an overall win (assuming you compare using the same testing standards).

preliminary estimates are 32/37 manual and 30/34 auto.

This is using the EPA's new standard that goes into effect for model year 2008, and will have a dramatic effect on milage estimates across the board for all vehicles.

And the tank is 11.1 gal.

wow :shock: why did they make the gas tank smaller then the currant xA's and xB's???

The xA (under new standards) is 27/34 man 27/35 auto, so it's technically an improvement (even for the auto; the combined average would be higher).

For reference (under new standards):
Corolla man: 28/37
Corolla auto: 26/35
Yaris man: 29/36
Yaris auto: 29/35

So the xD's numbers are still good, regardless of which car it's being compared to.

Well, the gas tank is underneath the rear seat, so to accomondate the new and improved rear seat, I guess they resorted to shrinking the gas tank. It doesn't impact the MPG, it just means you go to the pump more but pay less each time.

That's very good mileage; much better than I expected. I didn't expect it to get better mileage with a bigger engine (I expected the opposite, in fact)-I am impressed.

That's very good mileage; much better than I expected. I didn't expect it to get better mileage with a bigger engine (I expected the opposite, in fact)-I am impressed.

welcome to the world of Dual VVT-i. Look at the tundras, the 4.7 with Intake only VVT-i gets 15/18. The 5.7 with Dual VVT-i and 100+ horses gets 15/20. Not sure how much longer, but eventually all of Toyotas motors will be of the Dual variety. More power AND more milage? Double bonus gigilicious!

^^ indeed.. i found it crazy when i found out the tundra's 5.7 gets better power AND mileage than the 4.7!

double bonus? HELLLLLZ YEA! :clap:

Why are you surprised?

That's what consumers SHOULD BE expecting from manufacturers.

It baffles me how consumers let manufacturers keep the advancements to a minimum when we should really have V8s with high 20s if not 30s and 4CYCs with 40s and 50s easy.

2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06: 505hp 7.0L V8 = 16 City / 26 Highway

2007 Chevrolet Corvette: 400hp 6.0L V8 = 18 City / 28 Highway (Manual)

The function here is a lightweight body. As you can see above, consumers don't have to sacrifice power to gain reasonable fuel mileage. Most vehicles, trucks especially, are simply too heavy!

Trucks sort of kind of hafta be heavy. That's what allows them tow heavy things. There's also the issue of the wind profile. The vette slips through the wind while trucks kind of batter the atmosphere into submission.

Check out the Yaris TS.

It's the exact same platform and engine with a different body and 1MPG difference because of extra weight, the guy at the Scion place told me that, he said that they already have the specs but his just giving me some "clues" to find out.

Looks like the Yaris SR w/ 1.8L Dual VVT-i gets 39 miles/ per imperial gallon...which ends up being about 33 miles per US gallon in mixed driving.