2008 SCION xB PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS
DIMENSIONS (inches)
Overall length: 167.3
Overall width: 69.3
Overall height: 62.6
Wheelbase: 102.4
ENGINE
Type: 2.4-liter, 4-cylinder, DOHC 16-valve EFI with VVT-i
Bore and Stroke: 3.48 x 3.78 inches
Displacement: 2,362 cc
Compression Ratio: 9.8:1
Horsepower: 158 hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque: 162 lb.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm
TIRES AND WHEELS
Wheel Size: 16 x 6.5 inches


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xB
• 60/40-split, fold flat rear seat
• Air conditioning
• Amber instrument panel illumination
• Auxiliary audio input and iPod jacks
• Auto-shift door lock (A/T models)
• Cargo area under-floor storage
• Storage tray under rear seat
• Center console
• Choice of three wheel cover designs
• Chrome exhaust tip
• Cruise control
• Digital clock
• Driver and front passenger dual stage airbags SRS
• Driver and front passenger sunvisor with mirror
• Driver’s seat mounted armrest
• First-aid kit
• Four-wheel anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist
• Front seat-mounted side airbags and front and rear side curtain airbags
• Front sport bucket seats with fabric upholstery
• Headrests and three-point seatbelts in all five seating positions
• Intermittent front wiper
• Multi-reflector halogen headlamps with projector lamp for low beams
• Pioneer 160-watt maximum power AM/FM/CD head unit (MP3/WMA and satellite-tuner capable) with
iPod compatibility, six speakers, Scion Sound Processing, a user-customizable welcome screen, and
Sound Retouch digital equalization for clearer MP3/WMA-CD sound
• Power door locks, outside mirrors and windows with one-touch auto down on driver’s side
• Rear privacy glass
• Rear window defogger
• Rear wiper
• Remote keyless entry
• Roof mounted antenna
• Side mirrors with turn indicators
• Tachometer and trip meter
• Tilt steering wheel with audio controls
• Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control

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Performance

Customers asked for more power, and Scion has delivered. Without doubt, the '08 xB has a performance profile.

xB's powered by a 2.4-liter DOHC four with VVT-i
158 horsepower @ 6,000 rpm, 55 HP more than the current xB
162 ft. lb. . of torque @ 4,000, 61 ft. lb. more than the current xB
Four-wheel disc brakes on xB: 10.83 in. up front, and 10.98 in. out back
4-Speed automatic / 5-speed manual transmission
Safety

Just like the xB that made Scion a cult hit, the 2008 xB has an impressive suite of standard safety technologies.

ABS and EBD
Driver and front passenger advanced front airbags
Front seat-mounted side airbags
Front and rear side curtain airbags
Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPMS)
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC)
Traction Control (TRAC)
Brake Assist (BA)
Comfort/Convenience

Scions have always had a wide range of standard features that make driving a lot more comfortable. xB has these standard Scion features:

The combination meter, centered on the dashis a powerful trip computer that lets you toggle through a wide range of information on its LCD display:
Outside temperature
Instant MPG
Average MPG
Potential fuel range
Average speed
Default is a digital clock
Recline-flat front seats that can create Social Space
Four-dial gauge pod with LED lighting
Driver's seat armrest
Tilt & telescope steering wheel
Under-floor cargo storage
60/40 split/fold-flat rear seat
Power windows, door locks, and mirrors
Sun visor mirror
Intermittent front wipers
Rear wiper
First-Aid kit
Rear window defogger
Audio

Scions have always had audio systems with plenty of features. For 2008, the list of features grows longer.

Pioneer head unit with 160 watt max power and standard iPod connectivity
Scion Sound Processing: With choice of 3 pre-set equalizer settings
Six speakers
Sound Retouch (SRT) can help rebuild MP3 music data distorted during the compression process
Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL)
Pioneer Premium system includes rear head unit outputs to hook up with external amps for the front, rear, and subwoofer speakers
With Pioneer's Premium audio system you can download "skins" to play on the LCD faceplate. Customers can download images, four-second video clips and eight-second movies from Pioneer’s website
Pioneer software lets customers load their own images and movies onto the Premium head unit
And there's a lot more news coming on audio from Genuine Accessories
Style

Like the original xB, the 2008 xB has style and presence like no other car sold in America: unique, iconic and designed for urban life

xB’s a tall, wide two-box shape that captures what the chief engineer calls "depth in simplicity"
It’s a simple, linear design with a high shoulder that runs from the top of the hood straight back to the top of the taillights
Inside, the simple, clean linear themes carry through. The designers were influenced by the interior designs of urban cafés
Key words from the designers? Beauty is simplicity
Owners can choose from three wheel cover designs: a split 6-spoke, 7-spoke, or a massive-looking 10-spoke
Class-above materials help give xD's interior a look and feel that's a lot more than you’d expect in a compact car
Colors

Nautical Blue Metallic (8S6)
Black Sand Pearl (209)
Classic Silver Metallic (1F7)
Super White (040)
Hypnotic Teal Mica (8U3)
Blackberry Crush Metallic (3NO)

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??
Check the tC. Should be about the same as.

computer with mileage/range calculations?

Sweet!

Thermometer will be nice too.


any guesses on if TPMS will be the wheel sensor type, or the kind that uses the ABS system?

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??

We have intermittent wipers. Question is if they have the adjustable they should have had.

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??

We have intermittent wipers. Question is if they have the adjustable they should have had.

doubt it, then it would have read "Variable Intermittent Wipers"

I cant wait to see those colors!

well just these

Hypnotic Teal Mica (8U3)
Blackberry Crush Metallic (3NO)

I love how they left out the curb weight, haha.

I cant wait to see those colors!

well just these

Hypnotic Teal Mica (8U3)
Blackberry Crush Metallic (3NO)

I was about to say......

Color choice has always disspointed me with Scion. It's like 9 different colors that span the black and white spectrum, 5 blues, and then 1 or 2 other colors with actual color.

i take back all the bad things I said about the xb2. it's not that bad anymore, i still see a vague hint of xb1 in the styling, like her spirit, or something....

I have a weird question-- has anything been mentioned yet as to whether or not the xb2 will have a rated towing capacity?

I cant wait to see those colors!

well just these

Hypnotic Teal Mica (8U3)
Blackberry Crush Metallic (3NO)

looks like this
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/2008%20xb/BlackberryCrushMetallic.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/Chicago/XBLIGHTS.jpg

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??
Check the tC. Should be about the same as.

not if its heavier....

I have to admit there are some nice features listed such as cruise control, intermittent wipers, arm rest, etc.....I don't see a MPG estimate--not available yet??

We have intermittent wipers. Question is if they have the adjustable they should have had.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/toyotaisme/2008%20xb/wiper.jpg

This is very good into indeed. I like my first gen, but the second gen looks better every day...

Yeah--I was thinking of variable speed wipers--which is what I wish I had........

I'm actually in line to get the xb2. It's pretty sweet if you ask me. My first choice is white - next is silver. I do wish they had some nice colors like the Prius..

What did the old xb have for breaks? If the new one has Four-wheel disc brakes on xB: 10.83 in. up front, and 10.98 in. out back. What are inttermitent wipers?

looks like this
Actually....No that is not the teal. Look at the new brochure they were handing out at the auto show. The teal is much darker, much slicker looking.

What did the old xb have for breaks? If the new one has Four-wheel disc brakes on xB: 10.83 in. up front, and 10.98 in. out back. What are inttermitent wipers?


The old xB had discs up front and drums out back, not sure the size.


Intermittent wipers are for when there is a light rain, and you need less than the low setting. Currently our xB has only 1 position for intermittent which pauses briefly between each wipe. Adjustable intermittent wipers allow you to adjust the delay between each wipe, to adjust to the conditions you are in.

3085 lb with the Auto trans.

The most imprtant "spec" is the price...

This all sounds nice, but would sound even better at $15k

If its anywhere close to $17k its not a good deal. After you add a few options, you'll be out-the-door over 20 grand!

I paid that much for my Matrix XRS, which came from the factory with a bodykit, foglights, 16" rims (not hubcaps) variable wipers, MORE horsepower (180 VVTLi), AND a moonroof!!

Even with all the power and new features, they need to keep the price in classic xB territory. If they can pull that off, I'll give the new xB props. If its priced like a 4-door tC, No Deal!

-THE DON

^^Totally agree with the DON.
If it costs as much (or more than) the tC, the only real selling point left to people will be the 6 million airbags in it. This car is meant to appeal to the 'maturing' xB owner, and most of that market is not going to be interested in a crossover/SUV/microvan that comes from a company that has only ever marketed itslef to Djs, video game geeks, and pretentious coffeehouse dwellers. The people they are reaching to are going to go buy a Volvo wagon.
I think the company dropped the ball, because they dont realize that a majority of people who bought the car are not the people they reached out to. Yes, they were usually in the same age range-but not the same demographic they always reached for.
They think that the average xB driver was some glasses wearing coffeehouse dwelling college student, who had some interest in urban style and hiphop music- but is now ready to settle into his life of sucking butts as a financial anylist, and get married and have kids.

Scion's idea of the new 'xB's market:

"oooH!!! It has some resemblance to my car from my younger years, but has the boring hint of crappy mature conformity- just like me!!!
Wow, it has 6 airbags, so I can feel secure driving with my future wife, dog, and 2.5 children!!! Great!!! I can be a mature, rule abiding, non-distinct, member of society now- and have a car that matches that, yet still hints at my silly younger idea of being unique, or distinct in style.
Yep, the nail that sticks its head up gets hammered down. Thank you Scion for again making a car that matches my life!!"

They already dropped the ball, and if they price this thing in the same range as a tC or higher- most of the new 'xB's you'll see will be on dealer lots- not on the road.

LOL .... you guys stil speculating on price, then making judgements on the speculations ... so does anyone here on SL know when the world is gonna end, i would like to give myself plenty of time to get ready for it.

New xB weighs 3086 for the auto trans and 3020 for the 5 speed manual. :P

New xB weighs 3086 for the auto trans and 3020 for the 5 speed manual. :P
Got a link for those numbers?

New xB weighs 3086 for the auto trans and 3020 for the 5 speed manual. :P
Got a link for those numbers?

No, because those #'s haven't been released yet :wink:

what about the other concern (with kinda relates to the first... $$$$) What about gas milage.

what about the other concern (with kinda relates to the first... $$$$) What about gas milage.

"yet to be EPA tested" :eyebrow:

Other then the wheel size, the xB2 is almost exactly like my current 2006 Aerio SX. The SX has a whole 1" length on the xB but is a little shorter. The Aerio weighs in right around 2,700lbs in the 5spd version. So I could see the new xB being right around this weight...

The Aerio weighs in right around 2,700lbs in the 5spd version. So I could see the new xB being right around this weight...

Er, read above:

3085 lb with the Auto trans.

New xB weighs 3086 for the auto trans and 3020 for the 5 speed manual. :P

Got a link for those numbers?

I got one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/xbscion/DSC01889.jpg

Is that from the brochure they were giving out in Chicago Max?

The Aerio weighs in right around 2,700lbs in the 5spd version. So I could see the new xB being right around this weight...

Er, read above:

3085 lb with the Auto trans.

New xB weighs 3086 for the auto trans and 3020 for the 5 speed manual. :P

Got a link for those numbers?

I got one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/xbscion/DSC01889.jpg

:doh: Freaking government computers, didnt load the picture, had to use a proxy to view it. So so strange that they have a curb weight for the auto, but not the manual. Also strange that they really dont have any other specs listed on there O.O

That is a crazy weight for a car of its size :doh:

2007 Ford Focus Hatch = ~2605 L=168.5 W=66.7 H=55.7 (2.0 Engine)
2007 Scion tC = ~2901L=174 W=69.1 H=55.7 (2.4 Engine)
2007 Suzuki Aerio = ~2661 L=171.3 W=67.7 H=60.8 (2.3 Engine)
2007 Suzuki SX4 = ~2904 L=162.8 W=69.1 H=63.2 (2.0 Engine)
2007 Hyundai Elentra = ~2723 L=177.4 W=69.9 H=58.3 (2.0 Engine)
2007 Kia Spectra 5 = ~2950 L=171.3 W=68.3 H=57.9 (2.0 Engine)
2007 Toyota Corolla = ~2530 L=178.3 W=66.9 H=58.5 (1.8 Engine)
2008 Scion xB = ~3000 L=167.3 W=69.3 H=62.6 (2.4 Engine)

Looking at size.. I guess I could see the weight, just means its going to be a lot more solid then the first xB was. No more tin can feel. The rest of the stuff below was me being bord -.-

Turning these diminsons into a volume styled thing..*
2007 Ford Focus = 626,009.515"
2007 Scion tC = 669,703.38"
2007 Suzuki Aerio = 705,098.208"
2007 Suzuki SX4 = 710,967.136"
2007 Hyundai Elentra = 722,935.158"
2007 Kia Spectra 5 = 677,417.841"
2007 Toyota Corolla = 697,803.795"
2008 Scion xB = 725,777.514"
*This volume is based on a solid rectangular shape.

Is that from the brochure they were giving out in Chicago Max?

Yes.

Also, note that the cargo space is smaller than has been widely published. It lists 22.1 cubic feet, but most of the articles I've read have stated that cargo would be 29.1 cubic feet. The current model lists 21.2. Hope it was a misprint.

Also, note that the cargo space is smaller than has been widely published. It lists 22.1 cubic feet, but most of the articles I've read have stated that cargo would be 29.1 cubic feet. The current model lists 21.2. Hope it was a misprint.
Interestingly (and somehow consistent with the lack of information) scion.com does not list the cargo with the other specs. If it is there I don't see it.

On the other hand the canned PR from Chicago posted on about a hundred sites says:
The versatile interior provides 29.1 cubic feet of cargo area behind the rear seats, an increase of nearly eight cubic feet from the previous generation xB.
Given the appearance of the cargo area in pictures released, I think the 29.1 is probably close.

By the way, speaking of specs something else for the gas mileage speculators to remember when they release the gas mileage of the 08 xB it will be using the new rules. This has been discussed somewhat, but I thought a look at the new method for an 06 xB would be good prep work.
Found a link to this site posted in another thread, but I just thought this should be a part of the specs discussion.
For a fair comparison to the gen 1 xB you can check the government site.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySide.jsp?column=1&id=22128
Accurate or not, at least you can compare apples to apples when we finally get numbers.
There are comparison charts that shows that most 2008 window sticker EPA numbers will be 7-12% lower than under the current rules.

EPA cargo volume = 21.7
EPA Passenger volume = 122.5
w/2nd row folded = 69.9 :bow:

Think about this when it comes to EPA fuel estimates.

'08 Scion xB vs RAV 4
Scion weighs 300 lbs less
and has a 0.32 cd while the RAV 4 is 0.33, both are similar in size.

RAV 4 gets 24 city, and 30 hwy

EPA cargo volume = 21.7
EPA Passenger volume = 122.5
w/2nd row folded = 69.9 :bow:
That doesn't add up man. :?
The 2006 xB specs say
Cargo volume - 21.3 cu ft
Maximum Cargo capacity - 43 cu ft

Your numbers would mean the behind the seat space on the xB2 is about 5 cubic inches larger than the gen1 xB and the Maximum cargo volume is 26.9 cubic feet larger.

I know what the Chicago brochure says, but all the other posted specs I can find say 29.1 cu ft. I think what is in the brochure is a mistake.

Do these spaces look the same size? (I tried to find more comparable pictures scale-wise, but you can get the idea)
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Scion/100257487/2004.scion.xb.26355-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Scion/100844888/20112353-E.jpg

If the cargo capacity is wrong in the brochure maybe the weight is too. :lalala:
Hey we can hope can't we. :wink:

Think about this when it comes to EPA fuel estimates.

'08 Scion xB vs RAV 4
Scion weighs 300 lbs less
and has a 0.32 cd while the RAV 4 is 0.33, both are similar in size.

RAV 4 gets 24 city, and 30 hwy
That does make a pretty interesting comparison. Closer that I would have guessed except for overall length.
Length
xB2 167
RAV 181
Width
xB2 69.3
RAV 71.5
Height
xB2 62.6
RAV 66.3

To my earlier point, for the RAV, instead of the 24 city and 30 hwy from the old EPA test, to properly compare you need to convert the RAV test number to the 2008 test.
The RAV is 21 city and 27 hwy using the same test the 2008 xB has to use. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySide.jsp?column=1&id=23768

Anyway good/ interesting comparison.

Wow, never realized there was that much moe room in the 08! Nice...Can't wait till they are released.