$485 for labor to install springs?!?!?!
I talked to one of the dealers locally $485 is what they quoted me to install the TRD springs on the xB? What have other dealers quoted/charged you for the install? Randode charges $50. How is there this kind of discrepancy?
Find out what book time is to R&R springs and/or struts on the box. Multiply that by shop rate. Around here it runs from about $60/hr to $90/hr.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
And let me tell you from experience, boats LOVE the fuel!!!!
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Ok I thought about it! This is how...well first they got to make the springs. So they got to go to Japan and make them and then bring them back ($300). Then they will install them for you at ($100). Last they have to take them for a joy ride around for a day or two and you get to pay for the gas ($58 ). Hope this helps explain things!
Originally Posted by the_saint
Find out what book time is to R&R springs and/or struts on the box. Multiply that by shop rate. Around here it runs from about $60/hr to $90/hr.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
And let me tell you from experience, boats LOVE the fuel!!!!
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
they charge that much because they know some dick will pay that much because they dont know any better or have enuff money that they dont really care.
Originally Posted by Max2k
That's with the springs, but the price is still way out of whack because it's the dealer.
DIY or die.
DIY or die.
Originally Posted by Forevermore
Originally Posted by the_saint
Find out what book time is to R&R springs and/or struts on the box. Multiply that by shop rate. Around here it runs from about $60/hr to $90/hr.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
And let me tell you from experience, boats LOVE the fuel!!!!
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
they charge that much because they know some dick will pay that much because they dont know any better or have enuff money that they dont really care.
Originally Posted by Forevermore
Originally Posted by the_saint
Find out what book time is to R&R springs and/or struts on the box. Multiply that by shop rate. Around here it runs from about $60/hr to $90/hr.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
And let me tell you from experience, boats LOVE the fuel!!!!
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
they charge that much because they know some dick will pay that much because they dont know any better or have enuff money that they dont really care.
If mechanics don't get paid, they leave. No garage.
Is insurance doesn't get paid, shop closes. No garage.
If waste isn't removed, shop looks like ____, customers leave. No garage
The advertisement thing can go either way, but then again, I don't think it takes up too much of a shops budget anyways.
If owner doesn't get boat or fuel, he gets ____ed and mechanics leave. No garage.
Serial killers have a choice, shops really don't.
Originally Posted by Forevermore
they charge that much because they know some dick will pay that much because they dont know any better or have enuff money that they dont really care.
Originally Posted by the_saint
Originally Posted by Forevermore
Originally Posted by the_saint
Find out what book time is to R&R springs and/or struts on the box. Multiply that by shop rate. Around here it runs from about $60/hr to $90/hr.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
And let me tell you from experience, boats LOVE the fuel!!!!
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
Before people get all bent about shops charging $90 an hour think about this. The shop has to (a)pay employees [wages, insurance, vacation, 401k, ect] (b)pay for insurance on the shop, (c) pay for advertisement, (d) pay for waste removal [used oil, antifreese, tires, parts, ect.] (e)pay for the shop owner's boat, and (d) pay for said boat's fuel.
Seriously tho, there is alot of overhead in a garage.
they charge that much because they know some dick will pay that much because they dont know any better or have enuff money that they dont really care.
If mechanics don't get paid, they leave. No garage.
Is insurance doesn't get paid, shop closes. No garage.
If waste isn't removed, shop looks like ____, customers leave. No garage
The advertisement thing can go either way, but then again, I don't think it takes up too much of a shops budget anyways.
If owner doesn't get boat or fuel, he gets ____ed and mechanics leave. No garage.
Serial killers have a choice, shops really don't.
That's about what my dealer wanted to charge me, $200 per axle, $400 total in labor to install the springs. A 4-wheel alignment would be extra. I shopped around, and got them installed, with an alignment, for $185 from a local tire shop.
It pays to shop around. I doubt I'll take my car to the dealer for ANY kind of service, unless it's warranty-related. Lube/oil/filter change/tire rotation every 2500 miles at one of the local tire shops for $20, and I'll save the warranty-related stuff for the dealer...
It pays to shop around. I doubt I'll take my car to the dealer for ANY kind of service, unless it's warranty-related. Lube/oil/filter change/tire rotation every 2500 miles at one of the local tire shops for $20, and I'll save the warranty-related stuff for the dealer...
Originally Posted by DJQuikFingaz
Dealers are snakes, but yea they gotta make their money somehow, and sorry to say it's by suckering in people.
-nt
Originally Posted by trogdor
I talked to one of the dealers locally $485 is what they quoted me to install the TRD springs on the xB? What have other dealers quoted/charged you for the install? Randode charges $50. How is there this kind of discrepancy?
Shop around.
the point is you charge what you need to, to make a profit and run the buiness. not charge 3 times what somethign is really worth beacuse you know you can get away with it. not everybody out there know what things should cost, and they will trust what ever people say.
i paid $485 of r the springs and installation.
now, the springs cost $189, alignment is at least $60-90, labor is about $100,
so is $485 such a bad price? considering all the tools and time one needs to get this done, besides the knowledge, etc?
I did a lot of work myself on my WRX, highly modded, 300 HP @ the wheels(not the crank),
and it was a lot of work. lots of tools, help and time. I sorted out my suspension for a while, testing out different setups and all. when it came time for the box and i wanted springs, my wife was like, oh just get them installed, it's worht it for the $300 w/o the headache, etc.
to each their own. we're spending $15k as it is, at least. I saw soem dude moaning about the install price after doing a $3k stereo/nav system. gimme a break.
just my opinion.
now, the springs cost $189, alignment is at least $60-90, labor is about $100,
so is $485 such a bad price? considering all the tools and time one needs to get this done, besides the knowledge, etc?
I did a lot of work myself on my WRX, highly modded, 300 HP @ the wheels(not the crank),
and it was a lot of work. lots of tools, help and time. I sorted out my suspension for a while, testing out different setups and all. when it came time for the box and i wanted springs, my wife was like, oh just get them installed, it's worht it for the $300 w/o the headache, etc.
to each their own. we're spending $15k as it is, at least. I saw soem dude moaning about the install price after doing a $3k stereo/nav system. gimme a break.
just my opinion.
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