View Full Version : What to add to gain hp(w/o spending BIG $$$)


Black_tC_Guy
03-16-2007, 01:17 AM
ive been looking for add-ons to gain some hp for my 07 tc. any ideas? ive looked at getting pulleys, s-pipes, and maybe cai. any thoughts or suggestions? i really dont think ill be going t/c or s/c just wont be able to get those kinds of funds at once(poor college student)

Spect2K3
03-16-2007, 01:24 AM
ingalls stiffy etd. Not really gaining any hp, but it supplies more torque to the wheels by losing less torque due to engine movement. It brings more torque from the crank to the wheels.

draxcaliber
03-16-2007, 01:26 AM
i say a full set of nst pullys. affordable and effective.

brian
03-16-2007, 02:27 AM
some exhaust work (header, spipe etc) will add a couple horses but honestly, it won't make you any faster and the only way you'll see these gains is on a dyno. i suggest going for some suspension work instead.

paul34
03-16-2007, 02:34 AM
yup. I say the only way to make your car faster on the "cheap" is to go hardcore on reducing weight... of course, this makes your car very impractical as a daily driver/friend mover

FIREDOG
03-16-2007, 03:01 AM
be smart, go nitrous.
you can get a decent 75 shot wet kit for 500 bucks, not my choice but its an option.

Cooze
03-16-2007, 04:35 AM
i think the best bet would be an intake and it will add a nice sound to the car too but other then that ... tubro or supercharger is the only thing that I know that will increase your hp the most. Look under cold air intakes and there is dyno numbers for you.

HCSi
03-17-2007, 05:46 AM
cai's are nice and easy hp gains, plus the sound is an extra plus!

maybe for added power, i know some of my friends (not necessarily that smartest thing in to do) take out their spare tires... but i think at that point its more of a placebo effect.

Spect2K3
03-17-2007, 03:17 PM
CAI will not increase hp. AT MOST we are talking about 7 of so and that is with the best performing intake of all. Granted, that 7hp is at full throttle in the high rpms while costing you hp at the low rpms. Those 7hp will probably not even be noticable, and like I said, its when the rpms are nice and high. Don't get fooled and conned into the hype. With the tC, intakes are for sound and show. Bottom line.

Sleep3r
03-17-2007, 05:24 PM
bottom line is you have to spend big $$ for hp gains, supercharger or turbo

jwaggz82
03-17-2007, 07:22 PM
http://www.mech.northwestern.edu/web/courses/info/ME499/Images/mouse_wheel_200x220.gif

HCSi
03-17-2007, 08:18 PM
http://www.mech.northwestern.edu/web/courses/info/ME499/Images/mouse_wheel_200x220.gif


are those to power the l.e.d's? :rofl:

jwaggz82
03-17-2007, 08:19 PM
http://www.mech.northwestern.edu/web/courses/info/ME499/Images/mouse_wheel_200x220.gif


are those to power the l.e.d's? :rofl:

heck no - you have a battery for that. That is to make hp the cheap way.

CuRiOuSfIsH
03-17-2007, 10:15 PM
IMO, dont mod at all except tires and some suspension stuff. You may gain some HP on bolt-ons but even that can end up costing a lot and you probably wont even notice much as a daily driver. (I'm also a poor college student). Save your funds and get something better in the future.

cutz_tc_driver
03-17-2007, 10:18 PM
i just spent some green on headers hiflow cat trd exhaust and trd cold air it help a little i would do that

insanetc
03-18-2007, 12:18 AM
:eyebrow: ...everyone that has bought trd stuff..is unhappy..i would rather sped acouple of extra buks an dget the extra hp...i have alphawerk header,injen sr set-up not cai set-up...from header back driver fx drag race exhaust with no cat big resy...i know tehy say stock 160 but in reality everyone knows its about 138-139 to the wheels..i had mine dynoed with those mods with my hp evo 18x8 wheels and dynoed at 166whp and 170 ft lbs.....

so just my opinion but its wort hthe extra money..but half teh time i think trd is alil more money then some of teh "nam brand" stuff.....

insanetc
03-18-2007, 12:18 AM
:eyebrow: ...everyone that has bought trd stuff..is unhappy..i would rather sped acouple of extra buks an dget the extra hp...i have alphawerk header,injen sr set-up not cai set-up...from header back driver fx drag race exhaust with no cat big resy...i know tehy say stock 160 but in reality everyone knows its about 138-139 to the wheels..i had mine dynoed with those mods with my hp evo 18x8 wheels and dynoed at 166whp and 170 ft lbs.....

so just my opinion but its wort hthe extra money..but half teh time i think trd is alil more money then some of teh "nam brand" stuff.....

jwaggz82
03-18-2007, 04:01 AM
:eyebrow: ...everyone that has bought trd stuff..is unhappy..i would rather sped acouple of extra buks an dget the extra hp...i have alphawerk header,injen sr set-up not cai set-up...from header back driver fx drag race exhaust with no cat big resy...i know tehy say stock 160 but in reality everyone knows its about 138-139 to the wheels..i had mine dynoed with those mods with my hp evo 18x8 wheels and dynoed at 166whp and 170 ft lbs.....

so just my opinion but its wort hthe extra money..but half teh time i think trd is alil more money then some of teh "nam brand" stuff.....

I have the s/c and have nothing to complain about. The mount breaking was bs and they fixed that for the 07. Other then that you are spending 3k on the s/c, $90 pulley, $300 methanol, and $500 for the eman ult. Lets call that $4k total. For that you are getting a 235whp+ car ....doesnt sound bad to me. Add a header, intake and exhaust and you are looking at 255whp+ ....add a bit more boost you can add 20whp+

ESEMRFOZZ13
03-18-2007, 04:12 AM
CAI will not increase hp. AT MOST we are talking about 7 of so and that is with the best performing intake of all. Granted, that 7hp is at full throttle in the high rpms while costing you hp at the low rpms. Those 7hp will probably not even be noticable, and like I said, its when the rpms are nice and high. Don't get fooled and conned into the hype. With the tC, intakes are for sound and show. Bottom line.anything that lets the car breath better adds up a lil here and there. the low torque loss is put to higher rpm hp so you cant feel a loss either unless say you punch it at every light maybe. no one piece gains high power n/a. it's when you combine forces to creat a greater evil :evil:

jwaggz82
03-18-2007, 04:16 AM
CAI will not increase hp. AT MOST we are talking about 7 of so and that is with the best performing intake of all. Granted, that 7hp is at full throttle in the high rpms while costing you hp at the low rpms. Those 7hp will probably not even be noticable, and like I said, its when the rpms are nice and high. Don't get fooled and conned into the hype. With the tC, intakes are for sound and show. Bottom line.anything that lets the car breath better adds up a lil here and there. the low torque loss is put to higher rpm hp so you cant feel a loss either unless say you punch it at every light maybe. no one piece gains high power n/a. it's when you combine forces to creat a greater evil :evil:

That and people love just worrying about peak hp. Instead of looking at how the powerband changed ....they are just worried about max power.

insanetc
03-18-2007, 12:47 PM
:eyebrow: ...everyone that has bought trd stuff..is unhappy..i would rather sped acouple of extra buks an dget the extra hp...i have alphawerk header,injen sr set-up not cai set-up...from header back driver fx drag race exhaust with no cat big resy...i know tehy say stock 160 but in reality everyone knows its about 138-139 to the wheels..i had mine dynoed with those mods with my hp evo 18x8 wheels and dynoed at 166whp and 170 ft lbs.....

so just my opinion but its wort hthe extra money..but half teh time i think trd is alil more money then some of teh "nam brand" stuff.....

I have the s/c and have nothing to complain about. The mount breaking was bs and they fixed that for the 07. Other then that you are spending 3k on the s/c, $90 pulley, $300 methanol, and $500 for the eman ult. Lets call that $4k total. For that you are getting a 235whp+ car ....doesnt sound bad to me. Add a header, intake and exhaust and you are looking at 255whp+ ....add a bit more boost you can add 20whp+


bro im not nockin the trd s/c....im talkina bout teh exhaust and springs ...etc..i woudl mind having teh supercharger....when it first came out i was alset with it because they said 4k 40hp...and when the tc is 160 to crank and like 138-139 whp i thought it was a waist of money at teh time...but now that companys have came out with upgrades and stuff...it doesnt sound so bad now....i have actually been talk 2 my sponsor because im sponsored by teh scion dealer near my house we have been trying to get something squared away for my tc with the s/c.......

jwaggz82
03-18-2007, 06:28 PM
People have had problems w/ the s/c ....but thats the FI game. A few people here and there have been having turbo problems also. If there was one turbo company then everybody that would have a problem w/ a turbo would go "mannnnn the turbo is nothing but problems" ....thats the problem trd is having now.

If you can get a good deal on the s/c ...do it. If I was able to get a discount on getting my engine rebuilt I already would have done so. My 300 crank hp goal should be reality within the next 3 months.