I have noticed that tire prices have changed some since 6months ago. I will be looking to get new tires for my stock rims in a few months. I am looking for the same profile tire but with a high performance and noninflated cost. I remember there were 3 of 4 higher performance ones out.

Also - buying tires online seemed to be the best - almost always beat store prices.

Get wider 225's instead of 215 stock

Ah - i wanna keep the stockers atleast for now. I will have the LSD in a month so traction should be nice

I have noticed that tire prices have changed some since 6months ago. I will be looking to get new tires for my stock rims in a few months. I am looking for the same profile tire but with a high performance and noninflated cost. I remember there were 3 of 4 higher performance ones out.

Also - buying tires online seemed to be the best - almost always beat store prices.

that's an easy answer! Toyo Proxes4. You'll thank us later for the recommendation! Yes they are that good.

question not exactly on this subject kinda the opposite but im a nube! will my stock tires fit on any 17 inch rim?

Toyo Proxes 4 - 225/45-17 on stock rims. If not, TP4 - 215/45-17, but definitely toyo proxes 4

Hankook Ventus Sport K104 225/45/17's They ROCK!!!!

+1 for toyo proxes 4

never used them but i always hear good things for them.

if you go the cheapskate path, kumho ecta asx do everything they're supposed and blow away the stock tires and are only like $81 each on tirerack. they also do just as good a job as the pirellie pzero nero m+s i replaced when i got them. and those cost $118 each.

where do you get them from? Tirerack doesnt have them

1010tires.com is one option, but they are WAAAAAAAAAAY overpriced. Do a search. I remember seeing them on one website for about $91 a tire 225/45-17.

I never had these, but when I was doing a bunch of research, these kept coming up as a very highly rated tire....

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cf=false&sw=false&cs=215&pc=40217&rd=17&ar=45

Here it is, I found it - 225/45-17. Change it to 215 if you'd prefer those:

http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/898/

I agree you should go w/ the wider tire...like a 225 x 45 x 17. But as for Toyo proxies..errrr. They are a great tire but expensive!!!
I love and support the Kumho ECSTA AST.
Half the price and compairable to in performance.
IMOP

I agree you should go w/ the wider tire...like a 225 x 45 x 17. But as for Toyo proxies..errrr. They are a great tire but expensive!!!
I love and support the Kumho ECSTA AST.
Half the price and compairable to in performance.
IMOP


$93/each
http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/898/

If those are the ones ...thats a great price.

Yep, thats them. Enjoy!! :D

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=160048&highlight=

That's my experience with the Toyo P4's...couldn't be happier! listen to Spect2k3 you won't regret it!

Oh and to add, edgeracing raised the price per tire by 10 bucks, I only paid 83 per tire. Glad I got them when I did.

Toyo Proxes4 FTW!! :)

Then maybe there is another place that sells them cheaper?

Hankook Ventus Sport K104...225/45/17!!!!!!

Toyo Proxes4!!!

i have one place to get them ....does anybody know of any others? shipping was over 50 so thats a bummer

There is something nonoe is telling you . If you are gonna drive the Hell out of your car and turn at 120 MPH , get the 225s . If you are going to drive your car responsibly , buy the 215s . 215s are cheaper and will save you about 3 miles per gallon of gas . The difference is noticeable but , minimal . 215 work just fine . And be sure to check out treadepot.com . Very good prices there as well .
Good luck

interesting - thanks for the feedback

There is something nonoe is telling you . If you are gonna drive the Hell out of your car and turn at 120 MPH , get the 225s . If you are going to drive your car responsibly , buy the 215s . 215s are cheaper and will save you about 3 miles per gallon of gas . The difference is noticeable but , minimal . 215 work just fine . And be sure to check out treadepot.com . Very good prices there as well .
Good luck

oooooooo, i'm gonna have to disagree with ya there buddy. The 225s are noticable at speeds of MUCH less than 120mph. They are constantly noticable. Yes, it is only an extra 10mm, but its 10mm on 4 tires which comes out to an extra 40mm of tire on the road.

The 3 mpg is also untrue. If you do the math when you fill up at the pump, then yes, you will see the mpg go down, however this is b/c it was not taken into account the fact that the speedometer gets thrown a touch off by the larger rotational diameter of the tire. So for example, when the speedo reads 60mph, you are really travelling 61mph on a 225 tire. Now this sounds minimal, but when done over the course of 300miles or so, it adds up. The math i've done (on average b/c it always changes b/c of my avg speed on a given tank of gas), is that when it reads 23.5mpg (which is what I average), it really means about 24.3mpg. On my stock 215s, I would consistently get 24.5mpg. So there may be a margin for error on my math based on my average speed, but it comes out to me getting .2 less mpg with my STICKIER 225s over the stock 215s. Not bad at all and not even CLOSE to 3 full mpg less.

falken rt615's... cant beat em!

First , I hope we agree that I was talking about the difference in how the tire feels . How it feels is noticeable . Very much so . However , we will agree to disagree . Regardless of what the speedometer shows , the bottom line is , mpg s go down and your speedometer is off . Not good . Especially if you push the limit on speed watching for police . I like your explaination but , based on my figures ( which coincide with many articles on this ) I disagree . But , that is cool . I am happy you tossed your 2 cents worth in . Gives everyone another angle to think about and look into . As for me , I likes my 215 s . As long as they are good tires , 215 s are fine . I speed . Very much so . Never a problem with stickiness with the exception of the crap stock tires . Put good tires on , 215 s are cheaper and are just as good in normal driving . 225 s feel a touch smoother but , paying the price for costlier tires and more money at the pump ? Not me .
Good luck on getting what you are looking for . And Spect2K3 , take it easy on those Toyos . Lol . By the way . I tried the proxes 4 s . Not bad at all . Found one I like better but , I only used them for about 500 miles .

HANKOOK Ventus Sport K104...225/45/17..Git them for $101 each!

TeeCizzle !
LOL . Some might think you like the Hankook Ventus Sport K104s . Hmmmm .....

TeeCizzle !
LOL . Some might think you like the Hankook Ventus Sport K104s . Hmmmm ..... :rolling: :rolling:

You are making me wonder if I should try em out .

sounds like the Toyo Proxes4's are a good idea from many people. .....

dude, nothing is better than the bridgestones pole positions im running 235-45-17 stock rims and its awesome! cheapest place to get them are www.tirerack.com

Whats everyones views on using a 205/40/17 tire on stock wheels? good/bad sides?

Whats everyones views on using a 205/40/17 tire on stock wheels? good/bad sides?

you want to get even a thinner tire then stock?

yea if u see on my past ride i had that size on my aftermarket 17's and those were just Nankang cheapos and they felt way better than these 215's....looks better (more flat appearance from rear view stance) handled better (more stiff)

um.. a 235/45-17, if you can find it.. Is not safe on the stock wheels. too wide for them. Hope you're using an aftermarket wheel that's wider than stock wheels. Otherwise it's unsafe.

sounds like the Toyo Proxes4's are a good idea from many people. .....

yes I believe you'll be quite happy with the Toyo Proxes4. It's just a great tire.

um.. a 235/45-17, if you can find it.. Is not safe on the stock wheels. too wide for them. Hope you're using an aftermarket wheel that's wider than stock wheels. Otherwise it's unsafe.

X2!!!

Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position 960 AS

so everybody still thinks this is the tire to get:
http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/898/

??

looks good...good price!!....I still like my Hankooks...hehe

i am now up in the air if i want the 225's or the 215's

I think these are the ones that will fit:
http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/897/

i got 225's on my Stocks....go w/ the 225!!

the difference you'll notice is a MPG difference, since the 225 is slightly heavier and wider than the 215's. The 225's weigh 22.7lbs, the 215's (proxes4) weigh 21.6lbs.i think maybe a 1-2mpg difference between the two. I'm hitting 27 mpg with my 215's.

so those with 225's could post their mpg's..


but GOOD choice on the proxes4's! :)

How do the 215's handle compared to stock? Also - would you get higher tread w/ the 225's or wider tread ...or is just the rim larger?

I choose the 225s for several reasons:

1) Protects the rim a bit better
2) Slightly better handling
3) More rubber on the ground
4) I think it looks better haha
5) My tire place told me to go with 225s (same price on both)

The downside is that the odo and speedo will be slightly off. This is why it affects mpg. It will appear that you are loosing gas mileage, but in reality, it is just that you have travelled slightly farther than it shows. Based on my calcs, when I got 24mpg, it is actually around 24.7 mpg. The odo being off also happens to work in our favor. Over the life of the car, it will read a couple of miles less - hey why not! Extend my warranty! lol

^225's it is. You sold me.

Jwaggz are you going with edge? I'm in the exact same boat you are, but I heard some sketchy stories about edge (a few on this forum). Damn good prices though, I'm going to see if I can get some local vendors to pricematch or come down closer.

^ what kind of stories? ..... Im glad you brought that up. Maybe there is a different spot that has similar prices?

The odo being off also happens to work in our favor. Over the life of the car, it will read a couple of miles less - hey why not! Extend my warranty! lol

Ummm... yeah, I'd rather have an accurate reading of my miles, thank you. How would you feel if you never knew your actual age?

Really tho, the accuracy of the meters is the only reason I don't want the 225s... if that could be fixed, I would cop in a heartbeat.

its all personal preference, it doesn't bother me and the resale value will be slightly higher with less mileage, however minor it may be. anyway, so very easy math can tell me the exact number without a problem. after all, it is a fixed ratio! CAKE!

Well, I'm keeping my tC till I rot... but now I know what tires to tell my relatives/close friends to get for all their cars! (i don't think i'll ever resell any vehicle i'll ever purchase... i dunno why, but to me, it's like selling your kid or whatever... it's my baby!)

Edge seems to be hit or miss. When people have had problems their customer service seems to be extremely lousy. And they can sometimes take up to a month to ship. Check out these posts:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=176306&highlight=edgeracing

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2967792

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57016

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2470380

I myself am very tempted to just order from them but I'm going to see if I can get anyone to pricematch. I doubt they'll go that low but I'd have to get the tires mounted and balanced anyway so it might even out.

Well - im not gonna buy it from them anymore. Anybody else know of a good price on the Toyo Proxes 4
225/45R17??

would it be bad to run 225s in the front and 215s in the back? I know this is stupid but I only need 2 new tires before I hit the track... of course I plan on replacing the 215s later with 225s, but I was just wondering, will it throw anything off? such as handling, accelerating...

Yes, that would be bad. You have to match front and rear tires to the 'T'. Having different handling and traction capabilities in the front/rear or side/side is never a good thing. This is why you can't do 2 snow tires and 2 all-seasons in the winter. If the snows are in the front, the front of the car may have traction in the snow, but the 2 rears are going to be fishtailing out to God knows where. Now in your case, you would have 2 different tires on the car and in 2 different sizes. This is a real mess (unless the fronts and rears would be the same tire). Is it a big deal? No. But I wouldn't do it. Seeing that you are supercharged, performance is clearly on your list of priority.

Yes, that would be bad. You have to match front and rear tires to the 'T'. Having different handling and traction capabilities in the front/rear or side/side is never a good thing. This is why you can't do 2 snow tires and 2 all-seasons in the winter. If the snows are in the front, the front of the car may have traction in the snow, but the 2 rears are going to be fishtailing out to God knows where. Now in your case, you would have 2 different tires on the car and in 2 different sizes. This is a real mess (unless the fronts and rears would be the same tire). Is it a big deal? No. But I wouldn't do it. Seeing that you are supercharged, performance is clearly on your list of priority.

thanks! great answer!

the stock tires on the tc sucks... my tires are nearly bald already

its all personal preference, it doesn't bother me and the resale value will be slightly higher with less mileage, however minor it may be. anyway, so very easy math can tell me the exact number without a problem. after all, it is a fixed ratio! CAKE!

Believe me, I'm all for saving money... but at the expense of another? (in this case, the buyer)

Sounds like a great way to kill your karma. :|

lol, if thats the worst thing that I have in me, heaven will be more than welcoming. (we are talking about less than 1000 miles difference over my tenure with the car)...

oh, i'm not judging you.

one more thing... won't that throw off scheduled maintenance? but like you said, it's possible to calculate the actual miles, but i bet 4 out of 5 people with 225 don't realize or bother or whatever... so good for you.

it would throw off maintenance, but like I said, hardly enough to make any difference whatsoever even if you didn't do the calcs. Like I said, it is more or less 1K miles of the life of the car. I use mobil1 extended performance oil and change it at 5K anyway, so no problems.

So does anybody have a link where the price is right....for the 225's?

I just ordered my 225s from edgeracing.com :nails:

All I have to say is that they better get the tires to me in 5-6 days or its ON and CRACKIN'!!! :tap:

^ let me know how it goes. I am going to rotate my tires tomorrow and run them for another month or 2 MAX ...and thats it.

I found a local shop that's going to give them to me for 129, installed and balanced. And he promised he'd throw in rotations every 3500. That's only a few bucks more than ordering from edge and having them installed somewhere. I'm prob going to get it done in a couple of days. How often do you guys get your proxes balanced? I've heard in general every 3 oil changes is recommended?

I found a local shop that's going to give them to me for 129, installed and balanced. And he promised he'd throw in rotations every 3500. That's only a few bucks more than ordering from edge and having them installed somewhere. I'm prob going to get it done in a couple of days. How often do you guys get your proxes balanced? I've heard in general every 3 oil changes is recommended?

so far if it's not vibrating then I don't get it balanced. but with winter and ice, knocking off some of the tape on weights, I was re-balancing them every rotation, every 3500 miles. so now, spring/summer is here, don't need to. but it's more of as needed thing.

sounds like you got a decent deal, yeah always nice to deal with someone local, in case you have a problem, you have someone to turn to. I got mine locally too, had a problem with the tires, went in to get it fixed, all good now :D

I just ordered my 225s from edgeracing.com :nails:

All I have to say is that they better get the tires to me in 5-6 days or its ON and CRACKIN'!!! :tap:

Hows it going? Do you have a tracking number?

well... i received the e-mail of my invoice right after i placed the order which is automated of course. However, they said right after they ship out the tires they are supposed to send me an e-mail for tracking. I did not receive this e-mail for tracking, so I called today and waited for about 3-5 minutes on the line before I got someone (NOT 1 MIN LIKE THE DAMN AUTOMATED MACHINE STATES!!!!). The person on the line sound like me after a long night of drinking... but he did say that my tires were shipped the day I ordered them and gave me a tracking number, i should be receiving them on Thursday, so we'll have to see.... :tap:

:rofl: so far so good! Thanks for asking....

^ that seems pretty backwords for a company .......jeze .... i need my tires but im gonna wait till you get yours to see how it goes.

I know you already decided,but I figured I'd throw this out there: I have BF Goodrich G-Force TA-KDW's on my car and I love them. I don't think it gets any better when it's wet outside. BTW they're 215's.

I got my 225/45/17 Hankook Ventus Sport K104's for $101 each w/ FREE shipping and only took a day or two...

www.wheelsmarket.com

Getting mine put in Friday at a local shop. Getting 225 Proxes4s for 123 each installed 8)

Not bad, I got em for $112 each installed. Maybe you can use that as bargaining? I'm in the tri-state as well... Town Fair Tire (in CT) gave me $112

I choose the 225s for several reasons

The downside is that the odo and speedo will be slightly off. This is why it affects mpg. It will appear that you are loosing gas mileage, but in reality, it is just that you have travelled slightly farther than it shows. Based on my calcs, when I got 24mpg, it is actually around 24.7 mpg. The odo being off also happens to work in our favor. Over the life of the car, it will read a couple of miles less - hey why not! Extend my warranty! lol
:bow: :bow:
:bow:
Your math abilities are impressive. Mine don't go past my eleven fingers. What is the "formula" for computing correct mpg when running 225s? Should I just multiply indicated mpg x 103%. Please explain how you arrived at your numbers. Thanks

I'm rocking the Nitto Neogens 225/45/17. Only had them for one day but so far I like them a lot, way better then the stock steelies I had. Feel a lot smoother and have a lot more grip. Tried a launch today at a stop light and didn't even hear a peep out of them meanwhile the Stockies would be screaming. I got mine from Discounttiredirect.com. Great company. Would definitely recommend them to anyone, they came in exactly when they said they would.

Yea, I am a math person. Check out this website.

From that website:
"Speedometer reading with non-stock tire is 1.4% slow.
When your speedo reads 60mph, you are actually traveling 60.9mph."

SO, lets say you do 300 miles on one tank and you fill up taking 12.5 gallons. Your mpg on a STOCK tire would be 300/12.5 which equals 24mpg. Now, if you are on 225s on the stock rims instead of 215s, you must do a bit more initial math. After all, you did not really just travel 300 miles, you did more.

Here is the most simplistic way of doing this math in my opinion. Let's do some cross-multiplication.

60 is to 60.9 as 300 is to X.

60_____300
----- = ------
60.9____X


Cross multiply:

(300 * 60.9) 18270 = 300X (300 * X)

Now divide that 300 out to get X by itself.

(18270/300) 304.5 = X


SO, when riding on 225s and your tripometer reads 300 miles, you've actually done 304.5 miles. Now back to mpg. Before, based on the 215s, we got 24mpg (300/12.5). Now, for an accurate reading when riding on 225s, we must now do the math based on 304.5 miles. (304.5/12.5) = 24.36mpg.

So instead of getting the 24mpg that the math would indicate, you have to remember that when riding on 225s, you are getting slightly better gas mileage than is reading. But only slightly. Nevertheless, the gas mileage didn't reduce for me switching from stocks to toyo proxy 4. If I didn't do the math, then yea, i'd see about a half mpg less, but as we now see, that isn't really the case.


As for long term effects. Assuming you have 225s on the stock rims from day one, when the odometer is reading 100,000 miles, you actually have 101,500 miles on the car. 1,500 difference.

In the same situation, when the odometer reads 36,000, you actually have 36,540. So you just extended your basic warranty by 540 miles! haha!

Enjoy!

^ that seems pretty backwords for a company .......jeze .... i need my tires but im gonna wait till you get yours to see how it goes.

x2 cause i am planning on ordering from edge

Thanks for the explination, Spect. Now I need to get my wife to 'splain it to me in third grade.

BABY GOT A NEW SET OF KICKS.
I decided on 225 Proxes T1Rs after retiring the OEM 215 Potenzas at 45k. Initial impression: very impressive grip. Smooth ride and very quiet.

I'm going to be breaking my proxes in with a 500 mile drive the day after I get them. There's nothing wrong with that right? They can handle that much heat right away and stuff?

Yes the tires take about 300-500 miles to break-in. You'll notice great grip right away, but it then gets more responsive as you break them in. Nothing wrong with driving on them right away. Just will break in sooner, that's all.

TeaSea- Congrats on the t1r's! We snow-bound folks are stuck with the proxes4 ;) Keep us posted how the t1r's are

wow i used to be a huge proxie 4 fan but im sick of gettin burned by lesshcwab which owns toyo. so i got some new nitto neogens 225/45zr17 and i couldent be happier they wont last as long wht the shorter tredlife but man can they hold in the corners deffinatly stiffer sidewalls.

les scwhab? that's a tire dealer? they don't own Toyo corporation. if you meant that you wouldn't deal with them because they're the only local place to get toyo.. then that makes sense :)

And Nitto is a division of Toyo, so you did get Toyo's after all

I got my 225/45/17 Hankook Ventus Sport K104's for $101 each w/ FREE shipping and only took a day or two...

www.wheelsmarket.com

have any pics? Im also interested in those. Anybody have any input on those compared to the nittos?

i can chime in on that nittos are 107$ at americas tire/ tire rack. my friend has the hankook his subie 2.5i impreza. he likes tem but they are a hard compound so not as sticky as the nittos and wet weather i guess he dosent like them to much but they do have a stiff sidewall like the nittos. the nittos are roughly te same price and have a better traction rating but a lower tredware rating. so if your looking for grip and around 15-20k milles out of your tires nittos if you want 25k or so but at the compermise of grip in corners get the hankooks

ventius--- http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?mk=&yr=2007&cf=false&sw=false&cs=215&pc=11789&rd=17&vid=008806&ar=45




neo gen---- http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?mk=&yr=2007&cf=false&sw=false&cs=215&pc=40217&rd=17&vid=008806&ar=45

NT NeoGen ZR over the nero zeros?

jwaggz82... just want to let you know I recieved my PX4s today and on time! I wasn't so hesitant to order from edgeracing, my friend told me he had never had any problems with them... and we're all the way over here in Calif. If anything, just call them before placing an order and make sure they have the tire/size in stock.

Can't wait to get them mounted on!!! Yeh PX4s!!!!

Can someone second and third that these are the correct ones:

http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/898/

I dont want to order the wrong tires from a place that is known to have poor customer service

Can someone second and third that these are the correct ones:

http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/898/

I dont want to order the wrong tires from a place that is known to have poor customer service

lol waggz, your friggen paranoid :rofl: yes.. they are the correct ones, they say 225/45/17 (that is the size you want, right?) I would order them by today, otherwise order them on monday.... and forget about it for about 5 days :yawn:

^yes I am. Ive had problems in the past w/ places that dont take things back easily and I was burned a few times also. But thanks - I am going to order them on the 18th .... "im trying to budget my $$ for the CC cycle" ...hehe. Unless they are running out ...then ill get them asap.

even if they run out, it would only take a week or so to get a shipment back from Toyo's warehouse.

I hear what you're saying about being paranoid. They call it customer "service" sometimes I think some places should rename it "customer dis-service". But I bought my proxes4 from a local dealer. So I don't know about edge, wish I could help ya out there.

overall people can read this post and get about 4 ideas of tires that will be good. thanks for the help everybody

I went with the Toyo Proxes 4 - 225/45R17 - Its too bad they are closed on the weekend ..that means my order gets to sit pending till next week. Hopefully they have them in stock

i have motegi traklite 1.0's 17 inch with 225/45 t1r's. they rock. i the rain they really outperform anything else i have driven. the grip is mad and roadnoise is barely louder than stock (at 127mph! hahaha!). i guess they aren't all-season/snow tires, but wtf, i live in dallas now. if u get no sno, get t1r's. u won't be disappointed.

yeah in places where snow rarely happens, the t1r's are perfectly happy. Toyo makes the t1r's for those who don't have snow or cold temps..

yup otherwise get the proxes4 for all-season. Isn't it nice to actually find a tire, quiet, rides well and grips madly? props to toyo!

I believe the PX4s have the same tread compound as the T1Rs and the reason why the Proxe4s have more tread life is because of the tread design.

I know that because I live in Cali, I could use summer tires... but I still would like decent tread wear, so the PX4s are the best choice! Besides, it's always HOT over here, so my PX4s basically perform like summer tires!!! :love:

I got a pretty good deal on my pX4s. 225/45/17 for 500.99 installed including tax. Got 1k miles on them already! Lovin em. Thanks for all your input everyone.

^ thats is a good deal. What do you think compared to stock?

I got a pretty good deal on my pX4s. 225/45/17 for 500.99 installed including tax. Got 1k miles on them already! Lovin em. Thanks for all your input everyone.

no problem adeel! glad to help you out! let us know the specifics of what you love about them :love:

^ thats is a good deal. What do you think compared to stock?

dude there's no comparison to stock. My RE 92's would ALWAYS spin in first gear in the rain unless I was uber gentle with the pedal. I can definitely feel better grip and they corner wonderfully. I don't feel the bumps on the road as much either. I can’t believe the stock tires were only tread rated 160, however I got 45k on them and prob could’ve done another 5 if I didn’t get a flat on one. The Proxes are rated 300 though so I’m hoping to get some good mileage out of these. Hey question for you 225 PX4 owners… what do you keep your inflation at and how often do you check it?

^ thats is a good deal. What do you think compared to stock?
Hey question for you 225 PX4 owners… what do you keep your inflation at and how often do you check it?

It's nice to get four tires mounted and balances for $34. :P The inflation on my 225/45/17 is at 35 psi cold tire pressure (front) and 31 psi in the rear. I check my tire pressure every other fill-up w/ my own pressure gauge of course.

^ thats is a good deal. What do you think compared to stock?
Hey question for you 225 PX4 owners… what do you keep your inflation at and how often do you check it?

Yea - I guess I will also need to know this

I keep em all at about 33PSI all around. Max psi is 51. I keep em all the same so I don't have to deal with it when I rotate em.
I don't check em that frequently unless something looks wrong. Maybe once every month or 2.

^ then thats the same thing I did with my stockers.... 33lbs from what I hear is the right amount

I called edge to ask when I should expect my delivery ... the man was nice and found my account easily. He said I should be getting my tires friday or Monday ..... sounds good to me. I will post a reply after i get the tires installed. So far i happy with the whole transaction.

I had my tires put on today and the difference in performance is deff there. I can slam it down into second and not spin second anymore. The 225 was a good choice also because now it seems that it helps with potholes a bit. Another thing i like so far is that they dont screeeeeech when you spin the tires (cops for some reason dont like that). hehe. A+ for $93/each

I was shocked that it cost $150 to get them mounted and balanced. They didnt charge me for the recyle of the tires so the price was even a bit more then what I paid. I was honestly expecting $60 not 150 ..but whatever ... thats that. im happy

I had my tires put on today and the difference in performance is deff there. I can slam it down into second and not spin second anymore. The 225 was a good choice also because now it seems that it helps with potholes a bit. Another thing i like so far is that they dont screeeeeech when you spin the tires (cops for some reason dont like that). hehe. A+ for $93/each

I was shocked that it cost $150 to get them mounted and balanced. They didnt charge me for the recyle of the tires so the price was even a bit more then what I paid. I was honestly expecting $60 not 150 ..but whatever ... thats that. im happy

Nice to hear you had a good experience with edgeracing.com, so sad that other online tire companies don't offer the PX4s. I recently went to Streets of Willow in Rosamond, CA. and had pretty good experience with the PX4s, they didn't chunk or melt bad at all. It was 100 degrees, I ran my car 5 times , 20 min. sessions for a total of 100 minutes track time... the supercharger performed well; I got to do several passes even though I was only on stock suspension.

Here's a pic of me in the grid, as you can see I am the only tC out there because I went with my friend's mr2 event.
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http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9920/dsc00593hm6.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00593hm6.jpg)

This is my favorite canyon road I enjoy driving once a month and also where I gave my PX4s a nice break-in before going to SOW.
Glendora Ridge Road meeting at Azusa Canyon...
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waggz, go hit up some curvy roads and I can guarantee your tires will be making a sweet screeching noise while your breaking in that top-layer of tread. ENJOY your PX4s, I certainly am!!!

Also, $150 dollars!!! to get your tires mounted and balanced, YOU got ripped off!!!... I got mine mounted and balanced (sticker weights) for $34. I would never pay that much. Next time.. I recommend going to the most ghetto city you know and find a small tire shop, they will always do it just as well for far cheaper!
Enjoy your PX4s buddy!

^yup - im going to another place next time. The good part about this is that they do free rotations every 4k miles ....so $20 free each time I get them rotated ... it will add up to a decent deal

Yea they do churp if you get on it. I let the cluth out a bit too fast and found out ...but I wasnt trying to. ha.