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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Default Finally retuned, full exhaust, stage 1 zpi, with dynoblooper

Ok here are 2 of my dyno videos. i think my tc just had enough on the first video, (this was when we started making some power).

My setup is the zpi stage 1 with full zpi exhaust and s pipe.

Notice that my car is on 20's. According to the dyno guy the 20's are seriously reducing the amount of whp i am generating. I dynoed 275whp 290+ tq. Now prior to the new exhaust on stock rims i was able to pull 263whp 285 tq. These rims are much heavier then stock and i will be loaning some of my locals front rims to redyno to see what im really making.
that was issue number 1. issue number 2 is i only saw around 9.2psi of boost. my car has been capable of hitting 10.5. We think that the exhaust leak at the wastegate and the small leak at the top of the manifold are causing me to not produce full boost. either way 275whp on 20's is suitable for me, the car pulls hard as hell and its a beast. here are the videos, get a good laugh. when it happened i wasnt laughing, i was ____ed but now that i go back and watch the videos i get a chuckle.
the dyno was a dyno dynamics by the way. special thanks to nolimitzinc for the extremely good price on the rims and great communication throughout the sale process..

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=P3192935.flv

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=P3192934.flv
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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congrats on the setup!
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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oh, not a new setup. just new exhaust. ive been turbod well over a year now . was out to sea for 6 months so upgrades got delayed.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Those vids are scary! It looks like your car wants to jump off of the rollers.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Those vids are scary! It looks like your car wants to jump off of the rollers.
it tried, we had to chock the rear after the 3rd time in a row. those straps were tight as well, the car was just torquing the hell out of them.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pollup
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Those vids are scary! It looks like your car wants to jump off of the rollers.
it tried, we had to chock the rear after the 3rd time in a row. those straps were tight as well, the car was just torquing the hell out of them.
That does look pretty scary. Your car should not move side to side like that on the dyno. You should have crossed the front straps.
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Originally Posted by KCTTC
Originally Posted by pollup
Originally Posted by captainlaziness
Those vids are scary! It looks like your car wants to jump off of the rollers.
it tried, we had to chock the rear after the 3rd time in a row. those straps were tight as well, the car was just torquing the hell out of them.
That does look pretty scary. Your car should not move side to side like that on the dyno. You should have crossed the front straps.

I second that - thats very scary ....Its prob easier to see how much its moving from the video then in person
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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i cant remember where i heard that if your doing a dyno, your car shouldnt be moving off the rollers like that, thats where the not so accurate power comes in.

I dont know if this is true, but it does make sense to stay on the rollers not bouncing around.

BTW nice tC man, i should be picking up my Dezod boosted tC tommorow. "praying"
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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yea, you're lucky your car didnt roll off..
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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in response to all the feedback ill try my best to answer

KCTTC: As far as the side to side motion a little bit is not an issue at all. as well as crossing the straps, i dont get paid to do such so as far as i know the car was strapped down properly. i have been on the same dyno prior and have seen cars do 600whp on the same dyno with the same straps. they were adequate.

jwaggz82: was even scarier in person. those 2 runs were not my only runs. we did about 15 runs. those came about in the middle of the runs. i chose those 2 videos because they were the ones that gave an idea of how much torque my car was creating. it wasnt creaping off the dyno when we first started. same thing when i was at zpi, when we first started it wasnt creaping off the dyno then after we started zoning it in on a good tune it would start really creating some consistent power.

Kumitsu: my car never left the rollers. The rear roller that you see that isnt touch my wheel is just a free spinning roller. it does not take any readings and if anything adds a tiny bit of resistance. the front roller is the the one that reads the hp/tq. it came close to really leaving that one on the 2nd vid. it didnt bounce around either until the guy hit the brake. he felt the car lifting too high on the roller and stomped the break, thats why my car fell back down between the rollers and kinda bounced around. stiff suspension.

guitarguru44: im hardly lucky the car didnt roll off. the shop is very lucky the car didnt roll off. the waiver you sign when you put your car on the dyno covers damage to your vehicle while on the dyno, not that is caused from the dyno. if my car was to fly off the dyno their insurance would have definitely had to purchase a new tc because mine would have been totaled. guess it was a good thing there was a 600whp mustang sitting under a corvette on a lift, little more money for me to run into.

to end this on a positive note my tune came out very well and the guy who actually tuned my car did a great job. we were able to pull off an extremely flat 11.5 afr all the way through boost. looking at the graph my zeitronix made it was almost unbelieveable as becausei t was flat as a ruler.

if you guys want to see the dyno sheet and dyno videos where i wasnt leaving the dyno let me know and i will post them up as well as my afr recording.
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KCTTC: As far as the side to side motion a little bit is not an issue at all. as well as crossing the straps, i dont get paid to do such so as far as i know the car was strapped down properly. i have been on the same dyno prior and have seen cars do 600whp on the same dyno with the same straps. they were adequate.

I wasn't trying to make you mad or say that you did something wrong. I was just stating that by the way the car was strapped it may have put the driver and anyone else around in an unsafe position.
Were the cars that were doing 600whp rwd? I would have to guess so. Any front wheel drive making 600 whp strapped like that would have most likely come off the rollers.
The straps are adequate but not the setup.
I have plenty of experience dynoing fwds and have made hundreds of pulls myself.
I was only stating my concern for your safety and the future dynoing of your car.

-Jeremy
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KCTTC
KCTTC: As far as the side to side motion a little bit is not an issue at all. as well as crossing the straps, i dont get paid to do such so as far as i know the car was strapped down properly. i have been on the same dyno prior and have seen cars do 600whp on the same dyno with the same straps. they were adequate.

I wasn't trying to make you mad or say that you did something wrong. I was just stating that by the way the car was strapped it may have put the driver and anyone else around in an unsafe position.
Were the cars that were doing 600whp rwd? I would have to guess so. Any front wheel drive making 600 whp strapped like that would have most likely come off the rollers.
The straps are adequate but not the setup.
I have plenty of experience dynoing fwds and have made hundreds of pulls myself.
I was only stating my concern for your safety and the future dynoing of your car.

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they needed to strap it in from the rear
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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its gotta feel good to finally get back and get things rolling again. Congrats on the setup as well!
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Pollup, that is rather scary man. Glad to see you got things worked out though. Those are some Hella good #'s especially being

1) dyno dynamics
2) 9.2lbs
3) 20 inch wheels with low profiles coming off the rollers


Next time though, they need to strap you down properly. You should not have been moving period.


You coming to the Scion Shootout this year?
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarguru44
yea, you're lucky your car didnt roll off..
I agree. but the second video was funny. you have an auto close hood. I want that LOL
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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oh no, dont misunderstand i wasnt being a smart ___. you cant tell my tone from a forum . i was just stating. that was the only was that i saw to strap the vehicle down. there was no other strapping points around the vehicle. after we chocked it it was fine.

strapping it from the rear wasnt an option. you cant get under this dyno. for fwd's half of the car is hanging out of the shop.

as far as getting things rollin again it kinda makes me laugh because here in the next week im ripping the entire motor area apart. going to get all the intercooler piping done in gunmetal and all my turbo setup "Machined" (thank god) and done in jet hot black. hopefully we will get my leaks fixed. any of you other turbo'd ones use a different then stock gasket on the manifold? recommned i make a copper one? know where i can find longer studs for the manifold? i ask because i have already stripped out 2 of the nuts that bolt on there. my car torques back to the point where the top left nut sometimes strips. when i go to make sure its tight it free spins and when i unscrew it it leaves its thread.


rhythm: ive read that dyno dynamics reads a little low. im gonna reverify but i know it was extremely low 9's for boost psi. as well im gonna redyno with one of my locals stockies (if one of them will pawn them up for a few hours and stop being poon's). guessing the videos are making them nervous.

when is the scion shootout? i will have to see if i can make it. keep in mind i am 9 to 10 hours away from there. so we will see.

cess thats why i posted the second video. like i said if my buddy would have panned the camera to the left you would have see one ____ed off ****. i was in shock, i thought it broke something. now when i look back on the video i laugh my ___ off. seemed like my car said alright im done, smack!.. it will end up on you tube i bet.
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Copper Gasket FTW!

Yeah, Dyno Dynamics are considered to be the "Heart Breakers" because they read low, and said to tell you REAL hp that you see on the street. On a DynoJet, you would have dynoed even more.

Scion Shootout Info: http://www.zeropointindustries.net/f...read.php?t=489
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Copper Gasket FTW!

Yeah, Dyno Dynamics are considered to be the "Heart Breakers" because they read low, and said to tell you REAL hp that you see on the street. On a DynoJet, you would have dynoed even more.

Scion Shootout Info: http://www.zeropointindustries.net/f...read.php?t=489
you must be better tuner than Bobby
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Originally Posted by Silver_Turtle
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Copper Gasket FTW!

Yeah, Dyno Dynamics are considered to be the "Heart Breakers" because they read low, and said to tell you REAL hp that you see on the street. On a DynoJet, you would have dynoed even more.

Scion Shootout Info: http://www.zeropointindustries.net/f...read.php?t=489
you must be better tuner than Bobby

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Originally Posted by Silver_Turtle
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Copper Gasket FTW!

Yeah, Dyno Dynamics are considered to be the "Heart Breakers" because they read low, and said to tell you REAL hp that you see on the street. On a DynoJet, you would have dynoed even more.

Scion Shootout Info: http://www.zeropointindustries.net/f...read.php?t=489
you must be better tuner than Bobby

huh?



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