I went to my local Scion dealer yesterday to put down a deposit on a new xB...but I am probably going to have to order one to get it the way I want.

Anyway, I asked if they knew anything on pricing or mileage, and of course, they didn't.

I also asked about when they would be available, and the sales manager told me that a Scion Corporate rep had been there 2 days before and said they would not be arriving until AUGUST!!

Now, I have been lurking for a while, and everything I have seen here and in official documentation says May 2007 (supposedly May 15th official launch), with rumors of a few being available as early as April 15th. This would lead me to believe the Sales Manager was full of crap...but I cannot think of any possible reason for him to lie.

I am waiting on one of these as a daily driver (race set-up Fiero is not kind to the kidneys day-to-day) and want one ASAP!

I just realized that today is April Fool's day. This is not a joke. I went to Day Scion in West Mifflin, PA, their phone number is (412)469-3000. I cannot remember the manager's name, but there cannot be very many sales managers. The salesman I spoke with (and was there when the manager mentioned the date) is named Cody.

supposed to be released around the May time frame... who knows if there's any stupid delays for reaching the east coast... doubt it..

but that manager may have misheard something... the xD was projected to be released in August.

^^^^ exactly ... probably a miss understanding as the xD was slated for some time now to be out in August of 07 ... its the new box they are having a hard time nailing down a release date.

everyone has said may, your dealer is just a little out of the loop.

Your local neighborhood dealer is usually not the best place for Scion or any other info. Scionlife is the guru's mountaintop retreat.

The salesman said that they usually have a training meeting about a month before a new model is released, and that they have not yet had the meeting for the xB. This doesn't really mean anything yet, as the official release is 1.5 months away, except that the rumors about the limited April 15th release are probably BS. He also told me that I can order one about 3 weeks before release, even if I am not sure, because even if I order it and decide not to buy it, it will sell the next day....didn't even want a deposit. Woot!

If you want the skinny on the new B, sign up for scion backstage here:

http://www.scionbackstage.com

It's a free event open to the public where you will get to drive the new B among other things. Password is ROADIE.

And just to show you how ill informed that dude is, back stage is the launch training for the new B, the big difference this time is that the dealers will learn alongside the customers.

Ok.....I signed up for the Pittsburgh area event a week ago, it is June 14th...if this area's event is in the middle of June, how will they sell the cars beginning in May?

why not?

sell the cars.. and then have cooool event for people to learn about the vehicle.

so some places are lucky enough to have the event prior to release... that's all.

Everything I have seen and heard has said May as well.

I went to my local Scion dealer yesterday to put down a deposit on a new xB...but I am probably going to have to order one to get it the way I want.

Anyway, I asked if they knew anything on pricing or mileage, and of course, they didn't.

I also asked about when they would be available, and the sales manager told me that a Scion Corporate rep had been there 2 days before and said they would not be arriving until AUGUST!!

Now, I have been lurking for a while, and everything I have seen here and in official documentation says May 2007 (supposedly May 15th official launch), with rumors of a few being available as early as April 15th. This would lead me to believe the Sales Manager was full of crap...but I cannot think of any possible reason for him to lie.

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That sentence gave away your April Fool's joke! :clap:

If it wasn't a joke, just what vehicle was he trying to sell you on?

The local Scion dealer I am dealing with (there are 4 here to choose from) had no idea that there was not a 2007 xB, so not exactly surprising that we had to tell them about the new xB. They called Scion corporate and got NO info on the new xB and said if anyone was giving out dates, they were just guesses.

The rumored release date of the xD is August - September, so, given benefit if the doubt, maybe that is what they were thinking of?

Disclaimer: This poster has extremely limited trust in any car dealer / salesman.

I am shopping for the new xB. The reason I asked how they could have the event after the first units arrived is this:

And just to show you how ill informed that dude is, back stage is the launch training for the new B, the big difference this time is that the dealers will learn alongside the customers.

So, if the dealers are learning with the customers, how are the dealers supposed to sell to the customers as much as a month beforehand?

Everything I have seen is May as well, and I want it to be May, and I think the sales manager was just thinking about the xD, but I wanted to be sure. Thanks for the replies.

FYI, I was speaking to the dealer on March 31st, not April 1st.

I figured since the new design was so ugly (PT Cruiser has baby with HHR) that they might think the cars have some disease and they are holding them in quarantine in port an extra three months just to be safe.


:P

Why don't you complain in another thread? Ohh, that’s right, you, or one of the other haters did.

I am so sick of this, I am new to this forum and I can barely stand to read it. If you don't like the car, mention it in one of the threads where people are polling about who likes or dislikes the car.

I have never seen ANY forum where there was such a dedicated smear campaign AGAINST the forum subject. Lots of people don’t like the new design, but there are just a few people who feel it necessary to post in just about every thread about how terrible the new car is, trying to convince others to hate it too. Why? Why do you even care? You aren’t going to buy one, so why do you care what other people do? I it is like the Christian Crusades to the holy land, trying to bring Christianity to the Middle East. Why do you care what others think about something that is entirely SUBJECTIVE? (Like or dislike of exterior design) I absolutely hate center gauges. The new xB is better, but it is still the biggest downside to the car…FOR ME. What the haters are doing is tantamount to me going around to every thread…the one on wheels, the one on colors, the polls, everything, and posting about how LAME center gauges are. Does it have ANYTHING to do with the subject? Even a little? NO!!!

I didn’t even register here for weeks because I could not take the complaining about something that MANY people LIKE and WILL NOT be CHANGED. I only registered because I felt I had a couple of legitimate concerns, and they have been addressed by several responsible members.

People keep posting the same stupid silhouette comparison with a Chevy Venture or saying it looks like a minivan. Ok…listen closely…IT IS A 2 BOX DESIGN!!! A rounded 2-box design looks like a minivan or an SUV. The difference? The SUVs have a high, fairly flat nose and minivans have a sloped nose. The xA looked like a mini-minivan. The xD looks like a mini-minivan. The new xB looks less like a minivan than the xA or the xD. The original xB didn’t look like one because of its sharp edges, but if you smoothed it even slightly, it would look like a minivan.

I even went to another 2008 xB forum to see if they had any other/useful information…and what do I find? The SAME people complaining about the SAME THINGS posting the SAME PICS.

I am sorry if you don’t like the new xB. It might grow on you, or you might hate it forever. But please, we all know you don’t like it, and we obviously wouldn’t be asking about release dates and mileage if we agreed with you, so please, keep your negative, off-topic posts to yourself. It is really getting ridiculous.

I am sorry to rant for so long, especially being such a new member, but the haters are ruining this forum. You can’t make a thread without one of them butting in and posting something off topic.

^ x2

So, if the dealers are learning with the customers, how are the dealers supposed to sell to the customers as much as a month beforehand?

There is plenty of info for dealers and customers alike at the moment, the only thing we lack is price and MPG. This is a hands on event, and there may be people there that have deposits on NG xB's at the show, and there will definitely be a lot more deposits being placed shortly after the events.

Grow up...anyone is free to crack a joke on this site whenever they want. If you are that thin-skinned then don't log on.


Why don't you complain in another thread? Ohh, that’s right, you, or one of the other haters did.

I am so sick of this, I am new to this forum and I can barely stand to read it. If you don't like the car, mention it in one of the threads where people are polling about who likes or dislikes the car.

I have never seen ANY forum where there was such a dedicated smear campaign AGAINST the forum subject. Lots of people don’t like the new design, but there are just a few people who feel it necessary to post in just about every thread about how terrible the new car is, trying to convince others to hate it too. Why? Why do you even care? You aren’t going to buy one, so why do you care what other people do? I it is like the Christian Crusades to the holy land, trying to bring Christianity to the Middle East. Why do you care what others think about something that is entirely SUBJECTIVE? (Like or dislike of exterior design) I absolutely hate center gauges. The new xB is better, but it is still the biggest downside to the car…FOR ME. What the haters are doing is tantamount to me going around to every thread…the one on wheels, the one on colors, the polls, everything, and posting about how LAME center gauges are. Does it have ANYTHING to do with the subject? Even a little? NO!!!

I didn’t even register here for weeks because I could not take the complaining about something that MANY people LIKE and WILL NOT be CHANGED. I only registered because I felt I had a couple of legitimate concerns, and they have been addressed by several responsible members.

People keep posting the same stupid silhouette comparison with a Chevy Venture or saying it looks like a minivan. Ok…listen closely…IT IS A 2 BOX DESIGN!!! A rounded 2-box design looks like a minivan or an SUV. The difference? The SUVs have a high, fairly flat nose and minivans have a sloped nose. The xA looked like a mini-minivan. The xD looks like a mini-minivan. The new xB looks less like a minivan than the xA or the xD. The original xB didn’t look like one because of its sharp edges, but if you smoothed it even slightly, it would look like a minivan.

I even went to another 2008 xB forum to see if they had any other/useful information…and what do I find? The SAME people complaining about the SAME THINGS posting the SAME PICS.

I am sorry if you don’t like the new xB. It might grow on you, or you might hate it forever. But please, we all know you don’t like it, and we obviously wouldn’t be asking about release dates and mileage if we agreed with you, so please, keep your negative, off-topic posts to yourself. It is really getting ridiculous.

I am sorry to rant for so long, especially being such a new member, but the haters are ruining this forum. You can’t make a thread without one of them butting in and posting something off topic.

Grow up...anyone is free to crack a joke on this site whenever they want. If you are that thin-skinned then don't log on.

Actually, they can't. Check out the board rules...remember those check boxes you had to fill in when you joined up? Something about being on topic or something like that...gee..musta slipped your mind.

Anyway, thanks for the continuing info, ScionofPCFL.

One of the major keys to jokes and comedy in general is the concept of timing. An equally important, but often overlooked talent is to know when a joke has simply run it's course. At that point, the humor goes away irritation sets in and festers.

IOW, it's time to put the haterade down, and either ignore info about the NG xB, or accept it and move on. Otherwise, you run the risk of giving off the impression of being a spoiled brat that didn't get his way.

One of the major keys to jokes and comedy in general is the concept of timing. An equally important, but often overlooked talent is to know when a joke has simply run it's course. At that point, the humor goes away irritation sets in and festers.

IOW, it's time to put the haterade down, and either ignore info about the NG xB, or accept it and move on. Otherwise, you run the risk of giving off the impression of being a spoiled brat that didn't get his way.

Well said. I wish I had just said something like that to begin with, kudos for a well-thought out and mature reply.

Seriously though, I love the new xB and will be ordering one ASAP. Make mine NBM with the 5-speed and good radio.

I am the Scion Sales Manager for Beaman Scion in Nashville Tennessee. Our product launch is scheduled for May 14th and I am expecting to have them on my lot by the last week in May.

Thanks for the info Kevin. Nice to see there are some dealers keeping up.

Price and color?

Sorry, but at this time I don't know how many units will be in my first allocation, colors or prices. I will definitely post here when I do.

Not sure how the other regions are going to do it, but in the SE region each dealer will get one for a floor model until the next one arrives several weeks later. Our regional manager has already polled us to find out which color we'd like, and my first choice is the Blackberry Crush, followed by the Hypnotic Teal one. The first one I get will be decked out fairly well, not trying to sell it you see, just want to use to have a model to show and drive and take orders on subsequent B's.

I'll post pics as soon as it gets here....sometime in late May is what I'm guessing. Once again, no hard details have been provided yet.

Since my brother just got into an accident in his 04 xb we've been talking about what happens if they total it out and cut him a check.We're wondering how hard it would be to find a first gen body style (in this case black manual trans no add ons like the one he had) or is he gonna fall into a grey area with trying to find an 08.Will the fact we're in California help? and is April or may when they are rolling them out?

You're going to have a very hard time. There are 7 black stick shift 06's in the 5 state South East region right now. That's it.

Dealer Ext Clr Int Clr PT SW RI FI SpNBR ST SP WO Sp/Pt SpETA SpHLD DlrETA Serial # MSRP Amt Dealer Inv
01013 0209 FZ96 J N R 699 D 11/29 12/5 11/29 11/15 12/8 JTLKT334064120502 $15,706.28 $14,801.18
09208 0209 FZ96 J N R 680 D 10/20 10/24 10/26 10/4 10/27 JTLKT334764115751 $15,841.28 $14,859.58
09209 0209 FZ96 J N R 624 D 1/29 1/31 1/30 1/23 2/5 JTLKT334X64127392 $15,480.58 $14,594.48
10094 0209 FZ96 J N R 685 D 10/26 10/30 10/27 10/23 11/2 JTLKT334564117465 $17,582.28 $16,113.18
09199 0209 FZ96 J N R 600 D 11/30 12/5 11/30 11/15 12/8 JTLKT334164120637 $15,521.28 $14,631.18
09193 0209 FZ96 J N R 675 D 10/2 10/4 10/4 9/20 10/9 JTLKT334464113732 $14,792.28 $14,128.58

You might have to make some concessions, as far as add ons go and the like. You're also going to want to HURRY up, because your bro is not likely to be the only one looking. You also might have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping or plan on a mini vacation to make this happen.

Is California considered the south east region? thats kinda what i was fearing because we had such a hard time finding one back in 04 and now that the 08 are right on the cusp of coming out the timing would have been better a month before or after April i imagine.Also i still have no clue what his insurance is gonna do, i guessed they picked it up today but i imagine if they total it right away he wouldn't have a check any time soon.Looks like I'm gonna have to break the bad news. :(

The SE region is Florida, Alabama, Georgia, North and South Carolina, and we are the number one Scion region and have been for 37 consecutive months, which means we get more scions than any other region.

The best thing he can do is start calling ASAP to find a friendly dealer such as myself. Check the regional boards of your area for good dealers, and start calling. Put the $500 deposit down to secure it, and pay whatever it costs to have it shipped or to driven to whereever you are.

Thanks for the info, Kevin.

Fiero: the select few who continue to drag legitimate topics like this one off topic will be dealt with. I'm getting pretty tired of it.

Max rules!

Thanks Max, though I apologize as my reply post was off topic as well. I just snapped; the persistent few are really killing this whole next-gen forum. Thanks for the help!

BTW, everyone, the dealer called me back today and said he will be getting the first few on the lot in early-mid May, per e-mail from Scion corporate.

Craigslist posting Portland, OR Gladstone Scion taking refundable $100 deposits to reserve 08's. Supposed to get then early May!

I am in Se region and heard yesterday possibly PRE MAY release for my dealer. great because he is pulling his hair out trying to find an 05 Black Cherry to replace my totalled one. Someone From Enterprise called me yesterday and wantted to sell me an 07 Scion. Said no thanks, THE COLOR IS GARBAGE :rofl:

05 Black Cherry = 07 Black Cherry. What do you mean by the color is garbage?

Just my 2 cents....

I was the biggest fan of the new xB. But as of late i have lost interest. Notice i said WAS the biggest fan. Im not so much turned off by the car itself, just that the release date keeps getting pushed back further and further. I actually went back to my dealership and applied to get my $500 deposit back cause im so tired of waiting.

This is what im hearing, and its from reliable sources....

I was first told last August to expect the release of the new B some time in late March of this year. I was one of the lucky ones who attended the Release Party in Miami in December. I was the biggest fan there. I even went head to head with people like Tom and SuperDave over the car i was so nuts about. At that event i learned that the release for the NorthEast was now slated for mid April.

Early April comes and now its being pushed back until mid May. It was at that point i realized that i was not going to be able to get my hands on what i wanted, have it totally repainted and interior done in time for any events this year. It then donned on me that i can keep my 1st gen box ( paid for ) as a daily and buy a new Scion next spring.

When i asked for my deposit back last Friday, i then learned that the dealerships here in the NorthEast would only be allocated one xB .... yep thats right ... ONE! Its not a track car, so i could be sold as soon as it hits the port. What are the chances that a 5 speed in any color would be that one? Slim to none. Then i learned that not all the after market goodies would be availble either. Things like the lip kit .. the dual exhaust ... and some others that i cant mention will not be availible until later this year, possibly not until mid to late fall!

IMO Scion dropped the ball with the release of the new xB. Considering that you cant get all the options that were shown in Miami until almost a year later. But on a lighter note, this gives me more time to buy a xB ... xD or possibly a FUSE ( did i say that out loud ? ) lmao.

When i asked for my deposit back last Friday, i then learned that the dealerships here in the NorthEast would only be allocated one xB .... yep thats right ... ONE! Its not a track car, so i could be sold as soon as it hits the port. What are the chances that a 5 speed in any color would be that one? Slim to none. Then i learned that not all the after market goodies would be availble either. Things like the lip kit .. the dual exhaust ... and some others that i cant mention will not be availible until later this year, possibly not until mid to late fall!

IMO Scion dropped the ball with the release of the new xB. Considering that you cant get all the options that were shown in Miami until almost a year later. But on a lighter note, this gives me more time to buy a xB ... xD or possibly a FUSE ( did i say that out loud ? ) lmao.

Ok, Scion has said again and again that the 5-axis kit will be avail at launch. Although they have not announced pricing yet, I never heard that it or the TRD exhaust would be delayed.

On the subject of exhaust, the system shown on the modded show car was custom, I do not believe that is the sport exhaust that will be availible. I am pretty sure the sport exhaust will be a single outlet and once again, I have not heard anything about it being delayed. All I heard is that 30 of 40 accessories will be availible at launch and the others will be availible soon after.

On the subject of the number of cars, of course they will be limited in the beginning. I worked as an automotive engineer, and I can tell you that all production start-ups are ramped, you don't crank out 6000 cars the first day. You do a run of 20, then a run of 50, then 75, etc etc. So yeah, the first boatload is slim, but should be arriving in ~3 weeks or less (some dealerships claimed first delivery May 10th, I am sure some Cali dealers may be sooner). My dealer is getting one on the 21st. I will be there to test drive it that day, and I will order my car that day or before (dealer said I could order what I wanted, no deposit, etc, since they feel it will sell if I pass no prob.)

You have waited almost 3/4ths of a year, and you really can't wait another few weeks? It isn't like Scion is screwing up or doing it to mess with you, they want the cars to be right. I would much rather wait even another 2 months for a car I knew was going to be perfect than get a Chev-ified Scion. Be patient, aparently this new xB is worth the wait.

As per Mark Templin ... the new dual exhaust by Mangaflo would be put into production. And yes, the body kit will not be availble upon the first released.

As far as waiting .. i dont know .. im just fed up with being told one thing, and then in a short amount of time being told another. Everything happens for a reason, and right now something is telling me to just wait.

Sweet I just signed up for the event in Cleveland and it's less than 3 miles from my house. :P

Bigfieroman - I bought my tC at Day Toyota back in 04..... they didn't know crap about the tC when so I'm not surprised at what they told you about the new xB. I'll be at the Pittsburgh backstage event, too. Hopefully you'll have your xB by then. :)

Bigfieroman - I bought my tC at Day Toyota back in 04..... they didn't know crap about the tC when so I'm not surprised at what they told you about the new xB. I'll be at the Pittsburgh backstage event, too. Hopefully you'll have your xB by then. :)

If I don't have it by then, keep an eye out for my Fiero!

Wonder if they will let me take it around the course so I can smoke all of the (admittedly stock) xBs? LoL...doubt it.

I understand that the stock is building right now and they are prepping for release.

whats a fiero?? is that like an exotic race car?

whats a fiero?? is that like an exotic race car?

Mine is. ;)

The Fiero was a mid-engine sports car from Pontiac in the 80s. Toyota released the MR2 to compete a few years later.

Look at the thread in my sig for info on my car.

This shows info on Fieros in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiero

I've been e-mailing dealers around the L.A. area asking when they will have the new Xb in stock and have gotten different answers. One said that the launch has been postponed till June. Another said he will have some in two weeks. Most said mid-May. It all seems so vague. One dealer told me that they only know at the beginning of the month what deliveries they will get for that coming month. My 06 box got totalled and I don't know how long I can wait without my own.

My dealer said something about one going to LA with the May 8 shipment hitting Texas dont know what dealership but you might check back with them around the 10th

Estimates here are the 9th and 10th.

Rumor has it that they are trying to get stock so that every dealer gets one.

This is what a salesman in Anahiem e-mailed me today...
"Thank you for your email inquiry about the 2008 SCION xB. I have my Order's put in which SCION says they should be arriving next month. Right now they are trying to get a Least One per Dealer for Test Drives (not for sale) as per the SCION Covennant Agreement. My Dealer Rep. said that even though they are trying to get the One Per Dealer that the Factory is at Full Capacity Production so I am guessing right now the end of next month. Steve basically they told one thing then came back at us Dealer's with another. They are comming though and I have some Pre Sold and alot avialble....."

I was just in the Hollywood dealership picking up my new '06 1st gen. I inquired about the 2nd gen... "we should see a few in the next couple of months" is the answer I got.

So, expect some '08s to hit the Los Angeles, smog infested, bumper to bumper traffic streets by summer.

Is it just me... or does it seem that the 1st gen is a style for us guys and the 2nd gen would be something our women would roll? Not a big fan of the new gen.

Got my demo unit in allocation today. I expect it to hit the ground in about 3 weeks.

Is it just me... or does it seem that the 1st gen is a style for us guys and the 2nd gen would be something our women would roll? Not a big fan of the new gen.

whatever helps you sleep at night sport.

scionofPCFL you crack me up every time!

It just amazes me that TMC would not have an ETA for ya'll

I used to push paper for a Freight Forwarder (travel agent for cargo) back in the 1990's
We could have told you what time the ship would hit land.

Someone at Toyota should have dates for all the dealers...
Is this all about the hype or what?

whats a fiero?? is that like an exotic race car? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Now that is some funny stuff!!!
Are you not 41 years old? If so, what planet did you come from? Or where were you at from 1983- 1989ish???