Hello all,

My 06 TC has 26K on the odometer.

The first 3 oil changes were done at the dealer, so not sure if it was burning oil or not.

I have changed the oil the last few times and dip stick has been either at the L or close to it.

Currently, I have gone 3K miles on the current oil and the dip stick is slightly below the middle between F and L. So that is anywhere between half quart to a full quart.

The car has been running Castrol GTX since day 1.

Any advice? Can SCION do anything about it?

Thanks!

 

when you do an oil change do you check the dipstick before starting it or after? because the level will go down since the new filter is empty as well as all the oil pasages in the motor. If your really concerned take it in for an oil consumption test.

 

i just read your post again, lol. You went from full to inbetween f and l? thats liek half a quart and perfectly normal. My sisters bmw burns a quart every 3000 and its BRAND NEW.

 

if you were burning oil, wouldn't your exhaust be blue or something? anyway, check the level everytime you get gas and see if that changes.

 

My exhaust is fine, havent noticed any wierd smoke or anything.

I was under the impression that it will be at the "F" mark or close to it when I changed the oil 5K miles later.

I didnt know that .5 to 1 quart of oil burned was normal every oil change.

Can anyone confirm if this is normal?

 

Make sure when you change your oil that you fill it to full before starting the motor. Then start the motor approxiamately 15-20 seconds or so and shut it back off and check your oil level again in about a minute. This will allow the filter to get filled back up and the oil to drain back down from the top of the engine to get a more accurate reading.

Have you been doing anything similar to this when you change your oil?....or have you just filled it to full and then took off without letting it run and re-checking?



If that isn't your problem, then have you taken a close look to make sure that you don't have any leaks anywhere? Even if there isn't anything on your driveway/garage, it's still possible that you have a small leak that would be evident around the engine.

 

yeah, blue smoke would mean burning oil and rings are not so healthy.
this may sound dumb but how many quarts are you putting in?

 

.5-1 qt. would be normal for an older car....deffinitely not for a 26K car.

 

fill the new oil filter up with new oil and add the rest of the oil into the engine no need for a dry start

 

Guys, I am doing the oil change correctly.

I add a new filter and 4 quarts of fresh oil. It is at F after the oil change....

Now, the car was at L at my last oil change.

Currently, I have gone 3K miles since last oil change and its between L and F which means .5- to 1 quart was burned.

There are no leaks, wierd smoking.

I believe its the motor itself burning the oil.

Now, what can be done?

 

first off the tc takes near 5 quarts with a filter change. second, you have to take it to the dealer and do an oil consumption test like i said in my first post. And unless your using more then 1 quart every oil change they will tell you its normal. (which it is, like i said bmw's typically burn 1 quart every 3000miles) If they say there is a problem they will warranty it for you.

 

Here's where my tC stupidity comes in. Does the tC filter mount upright where you can fill it first?

 

and also...if your motor was burning oil, your exhaust would be blue. if it ain't leaking, what else would the engine be doing with the oil?

 

Thanks for your reply.

I just checked my manual and it states 3.8 q with a filter change. Not sure where you got the near 5 quarts from.(I could be wrong, but Im going by the manuel)

Your right, I should take it to the dealer, but I wanted to make sure its not normal first.

 

thats not quarts that litres thats also recomended for a drain and refil, which varies if the engine is warm etc etc. teh actual capacity for teh pan is over 4 quarts you can search if you wants, its also been enlarged for the 07 but that doesnt matter. If you continue reading the owners manual ou will see its only .9 quarts i think from full to l on the dipstick so 300 miles and half a quart seems fine to me.

 

Yes the filter does mount upright. Which leads me to ask - if it's such a great idea to fill it up first why haven't we ALL been doing this?

Does this really matter? Or if we install the filter empty - will added oil simply displace the air inside the filter anyway as we fill the crankcase?

 

its comon practice on large deisel services and some people have started doing it on their cars. It doesnt make much of a diffrence. Some sytems filter the oil after it circulates through the engine so it doesnt matter. That crucial air pocket your trying to get rid of just gets dumped back into the pan and not the pump.

 

Im pretty sure its quarts bro.

http://www.club-tc.com/forums/engine...il-change.html even the write up says the same thing.

Plus, I check my oil after the change with 4 quarts and its at F.

To wrap up this thread, is .5 to 1 quart normal? You mentioned the BMW, but maybe the scion is different.

To conclude, should .5-1.0 quarts per oil change be acceptible?

 

I'm not sure about that. I put four quarts (gallon) in with a filter change, comes up to exactly F when cold checking the dipstick.

The first time I did it I put in 3.75, which was OK, but was slightly below full. Now its at or slightly above F (when I put the .25 back).

 

Yeah, I agree with you.

Do you know anything about my oil burnign issue?

Is .5 to 1 quart normal?