I got Progress rear sway bar from http://www.newedgeperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=414

tools i use is
14mm socket and
two 14mm Ratchet Wrench.
hex key tool ( 3/16)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/tools.jpg

Jack up the car with Hand brake on. I removed the rear passenger's tire. it made it easy to slide the sway bar out.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/carjack.jpg

Now remove the those 4 bolts from under the car.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/bar1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/bar2.jpg

now removing the Endlinks, just the lower nut needs to be remove, You can leave the nut connected to sway bar alone
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/Endlink1.jpg

You need the Hex Key to keep it from turning while removing this nut.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/Endlink3.jpg

Now slide the bar toward the passenage side where the wheel was removed.
Comparing the Progress Bar and the stock bar. Progress Bar weight almost twice as the stock bar.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/swaybarcompare.jpg

Now slide the new bar in.
Cut open the grease tube that come with Progress Bar and grease up the inside of the new bushing.
Put on the new bushing and new brackets. Then tighten the bolts and nuts.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/newswaybarin.jpg

I use the two Ratchet Wrenches to tight the new endlinks.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/newendlink.jpg

Passenger side rear view
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/Endlink5.jpg

Driver side rear view
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/Endlink4.jpg

I used the inner hole for firmest setting.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/Endlink6.jpg

Recheck and re_tighten everything.

Nice Write up

great job 2 thumbs up ;)

What do the new end links do? And why is your car SOOOO rusty already?

new jersey = snow = salt = rust


good write up :)

i didn't even pay attention to the rust, I though all cars' bottom rust like that. Luck my area don't get much snow or flood.

The Endlink just connect the bar to the car's body. Progress Sway Bar comes with new Endlinks.

I only tested the car in a school's parking lot. Much less body roll. The car feels more solid. HR coilover will be my next mod.

I just installed the rear hotchkis bar and for the life of me can't get the two top bushing bracket bolts to thread back in the holes. Everything else lined up fine and it only took 20 minutes. Hotchkis provided 8mm allen head bolts for clearance, threads area identical to the stock bolts, why won't they take?

I just installed the rear hotchkis bar and for the life of me can't get the two top bushing bracket bolts to thread back in the holes. Everything else lined up fine and it only took 20 minutes. Hotchkis provided 8mm allen head bolts for clearance, threads area identical to the stock bolts, why won't they take?

place a jack under the opposite wheel hub(rotor) on the other side of the car and jack it up an inch or two, the bolt is just a tad away from alignment, it's not an issue at all, the suspension just needs to be compressed a little bit to give you more space to use with the sway bar.

so now that you have had it for awhile how you like it? i just put mine on today

first few week feel big difference. but now i got so used to it. I need to drive a stock tc again to really to feel the difference.

Why did you pick the progress over the TRD? And are those the Dezod endlinks?

progress come with its own endlinks, and progress is has more adjustment settings than the trd. both from the same company anyway.

It all comes together now. Thank;s for the clarification.

Great DIY. One thing to add to the "To do list" when summer decides to roll around.

yeah same question as to why not the TRD, also seems alot better get cause you don't have to spent more on getting new endlinks.

first few week feel big difference. but now i got so used to it. I need to drive a stock tc again to really to feel the difference.

thats understandable, so far i love mine i hated feeling like i was in an suv on a tight turn

I never knew the progress came with new endlinks. Nice to know for future.

good DIY i think i might just have to get me one now ha

Cool write up. My buddy and I just did my TRD sway last weekend. Waiting for my Dezod end links to come in the mail.

no front? only rear?

nope. progress, trd only make rear sways.

no front? only rear?
hotchkis makes front and rear sway bars

nope. progress, trd only make rear sways.
there are others like hotchkis... i dont knot of the others bbut im pretty sure there are maybe not

i'm aware. i'm just saying that trd/progress only make the rears. same thing i guess..

Found this quote on the site...

"Progress has designed this rear sway bar kit to work in conjunction with the stock front sway bar to improve handling by getting the car to rotate more in the corners."

Does this make sense to anyone? I'm a bit confused. I was set on purchasing the Hotchkis Front and Rear Sway combo, but now I'm confused again. I might just purchase the Progress Rear Sway. I doubt I will ever need/use the front sway. HELP! :P

BTW; nice write-up! :clap: Will definitely come in handy whenever I do my install.

rotate more... as in oversteer? woo!

rotate more... as in oversteer? woo!

more like, as in not understeer as much.

pretty cool that they come with the end links. im assuming that you just set it to the same length as the stock ones and lock it up with the nuts?

good DIY! thanks!

i don't remember checking the length.
I just bolt every piece together.
Maybe i should take it apart and check it again.

errrrr bumpage but im just wondering how its held up for you.

just got it today and didn't find the grease so ima have to find a substitute, I'm assuming any silicone based lubricant will be okay....?

so imma about to instail mine tomorrow... did you have to get your car re alignned after this instail? cuz if so i dont have 80 bucks to drop on a alignment right now?

oh and you spend 189 ? i got mine from p tuning last week when is was free shipping and only 165 :)

so imma about to instail mine tomorrow... did you have to get your car re alignned after this instail? cuz if so i dont have 80 bucks to drop on a alignment right now?

No

and riding stock height is ok with the stiffest setting ? progressive says to get a alignment im read it somewhere

hmmmmm. not sure.

thread awhile back claimed it wasn't necessary, now if you do a front sway then yeah, an alignment will be needed.

nope. progress, trd only make rear sways.
there are others like hotchkis... i dont knot of the others bbut im pretty sure there are maybe not

I am running both the front and rear hotchkis sways... I did the install myself b/c I had the use of a bay at my local toyota/scion dealer (I have the inside track w/ them) and the use of a nice lift.

The reason that a lot of people dont install a front sway is that on the tC you have to literally drop the entire front sub-frame of the car in order to install it. Takes a few hours with the right tools and know-how. I will say this... having both of the hotchkis sways on...she corners like she's on rails! then I also have the TRD front strut tower brace...and dropped on hotchkis springs... handles so much better its not even funny. The hotchkis sways are wider diameter than most...and nice and stiff...
Anyone that rides in a tC like mine with the hotchkis TVS suspension setup... will be willing to fork over the extra cash to install the front sway if they cant do it themselves.

nice diy!
thanks...i hope to get these or hotchkis soon!

jsingh.... ^^ dude... if you cant do it yourself... fork over the cash to have the front hotchkis sway installed... you wont be able to wipe the smile off your face after experiencing the handling..... ***just a note***..... if you go with Hotchkis sways.... they are NOT designed to work if you only install the rear...as they are very heavy-duty stiff sways...

^^^^Have you driven in a tC with just the rear progress sway/endlinks installed?

No I have not...I know the Progress and TRD rear sways were designed to work just as is without a front sway. I'm just saying that running a setup with a front sway as well as the braces...is very tight...and handles very well. But also I was stating that the Hothckis brand sways are not designed to just install the rear sway.
I have ridden in my friend's tC and he just has the TRD rear sway on TRD springs... it definately handles better than stock..but not quite as tight as having the front sway and upper tower brace.

I would put it like this....IMO
Stock= good
Rear sway + lowering springs = better
front & rear sway + lowering springs + strut tower braces = best

f&r sway + COILOVERS = bestest

its overkill for most, but nothing much can beat that

Understandable....

I just want to get this bastard installed asap...just laying there in mah garage seducing me. lul

f&r sway + COILOVERS = bestest

its overkill for most, but nothing much can beat that

Okay bucko...I'll give ya that on the coilovers....they are nice...and if I had that kind of change layin around I would probably be rolling on them.

:D

well you had me on that one...I was thinking of my setup not the coilovers I wish I had...lol....but I admit when I've overlooked something lol... I think if a person cant eat a slice of humble pie....they shouldnt be dishing it out either lol

yeah i cant afford coilovers either..lol imma just wait till i need to get new struts...

but what about this set up..

DME front and rear strut bar
progressive rear sway
integra c pillar bar
and H&R sport springs

ill be instailing all this week expect for the springs will that be stiff just as stiff???

i'd save my money and do the springs and progress sway. the rest you can do, but i'd put my money into something more useful like tires

i have tires already lol i got rims and tires

So yeah this was definitely worth the money. Back end is tight as hell.
Good write up. helped me out quite a bit.

errrrr bumpage but im just wondering how its held up for you.

just got it today and didn't find the grease so ima have to find a substitute, I'm assuming any silicone based lubricant will be okay....?

I would think that a silicone based grease would be okay and not degrade the bushings. For some reason I thought I heard there was a lithium based grease for certain ones... but you might want to check with the manufacturer before you do it.

can u really feel that much of a difference?

yeah i cant afford coilovers either..lol imma just wait till i need to get new struts...

but what about this set up..

DME front and rear strut bar
progressive rear sway
integra c pillar bar
and H&R sport springs

ill be instailing all this week expect for the springs will that be stiff just as stiff???

sounds decent... you will notice a diff. up front with that tower brace...
I havent found a whole lot on the C-pillar brace... as far as how effective it is for the amount they cost. I think if I heard correctly that it attaches via the upper mounting points fro the rear seatbelts.
hell...I had even thought of installing a full 5-6pt cage until I saw the end result of a tC that had flipped 7 times on the highway and the roof didnt cave in one bit. So the factory frame is like it has its own built in roll cage... sweeeeet.....

can u really feel that much of a difference?

with what exactly?

the difference between driving a stock one and a aftermarket one? being tighter?

^^ hatch... as far as aftermarket for front and rear sways, tower braces, lowering springs....yeah... it's a huge difference over stock... very worth the money for those mods. Mine handles like its on rails and very very little "roll" factor in cornering. If you drive a stock tC and then drive one that has its suspension modded like mine...its like night and day difference.

errrrr bumpage but im just wondering how its held up for you.

just got it today and didn't find the grease so ima have to find a substitute, I'm assuming any silicone based lubricant will be okay....?

I would think that a silicone based grease would be okay and not degrade the bushings. For some reason I thought I heard there was a lithium based grease for certain ones... but you might want to check with the manufacturer before you do it.

I didn't realize how small the tube was and just over looked it. But yeah shes all in and lubed up tight.....lulz..anyways

yeah its a great difference...im really wanting to get some dezod end links for the front now. but that will probably come way down the road.

Great write up. I just installed my Progress (stiffest setting) and even though I have read that the difference should be really noticeable, I was still shocked to feel it. The back end was nice and tight in corners and if you really yank the wheel the car actually feels like its almost oversteering a bit and just keeps sliding. Almost no roll.

Really excited. I think if you are going to mod just one thing on this car, this should be it.

Can't wait to get a suspension upgrade and some better tires.

good job

Rocking the Hotchkis F+R sways at tightest setting, TRD springs, DC Sports front tower brace, and 8.5" wide rims with pirelli's. Handles on rails. Front sway is a bear though. Took me about 2 hours to do with a lift and all the right tools.

i just saw an RSX with the progress rear and it had a cool little label thing on it why does'nt yours??

well i'm gunna throw this out there...i'm on hks coilovers, hotchkis f&r sways, trd strut bar and worn out toyo proxes4. it feels very unstable and rides like rock. body roll is minimal if i can get it turn in the first place lol. simply put, i can't stand it! i'm considering getting new tires asap, going to just progress rear sway and some hothckis lowering springs. 1 finger gap up front, 1.5 rear.

wat is the diff between inner hole and outter hole ??
is it gonna effect car performance ?

Yea, the inner hole will make it a lot stiffer so it will handle better, there will be less body roll.

good info, does anyone have advice on the best place to get hotchkins sways?

hopupracing.com

http://www.newedgeperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=414
or
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1063
or
http://www.dezod.com/pd_progress_rear_sway_barscion.cfm

theyre all the same thing right ? all come w/ new endlinks ??

i believe they are all the same. but only Newedgeracing post the correct picture. The other 2 dealers didn't bother to take time to post the correct picture.

I got mine from Newedgeracing.

plus it come with new endlinks

well i'm gunna throw this out there...i'm on hks coilovers, hotchkis f&r sways, trd strut bar and worn out toyo proxes4. it feels very unstable and rides like rock. body roll is minimal if i can get it turn in the first place lol. simply put, i can't stand it! i'm considering getting new tires asap, going to just progress rear sway and some hothckis lowering springs. 1 finger gap up front, 1.5 rear.


I have Tokico HP blues,hotchkis springs and F&R sways, ingals rear brace, DC sports front tower bar. rolling on Enkei RPF1's 17x8 and Falken 452's, and the ride is amazing! The sway bars made a HUGE difference I feel like I have much more controll over the car.

As for the progress bar, if I did not get an awesome deal on my F&R bar set I would have most likely bought a progress bar. It's the best rear bar you can get for the tC, good set up for a DD.

hey what do we know...I guess the 25MM progress bar is the way to go :)