View Full Version : Invidia S pipe works with DC Header.


GammaTNT
04-29-2007, 08:36 PM
i want to get them. Do i need Antifoul mod on the s pipe? Some one said the antifoul won't fit on the Invidia pipe, and other said i don't need antifoul on aftermarket s pipe.

Please give me some feed back.

[edit] Got them installed. They work great with antifoul mod. [edit]

SiL3nTKiLL
04-29-2007, 08:39 PM
i think on the invidia spipe u have to weld the 02 bung somewhere else

onefatcloud
04-30-2007, 12:11 AM
i got both on my car and you need to do the mod on the s-pipe, they fit together and the spipe has a bung already from factory so you dont have to weld one in.

timmyinpajamas
04-30-2007, 02:27 AM
i have the dc headers n invidia s pipe and the mmw cel elimminator fits perfect with no modding and no cel

GammaTNT
04-30-2007, 02:28 AM
i got both on my car and you need to do the mod on the s-pipe, they fit together and the spipe has a bung already from factory so you dont have to weld one in.

how u like them? did they ever gave u CEL?

caveman
04-30-2007, 03:49 AM
i got both on my car and you need to do the mod on the s-pipe, they fit together and the spipe has a bung already from factory so you dont have to weld one in.

So u are saying the the anti-foulers will work on the invidia, but that it is needed because of the aftermarket header?
No need the weld a bung somewhere else?

This is wat I have always understand just want to make sure....

Sleep3r
04-30-2007, 06:00 PM
understand that all headers will need the antifouler if you don't want that cel

caveman
05-01-2007, 01:42 AM
Right, I am running AW headers with the antifouler mod myself....
I just wanted to make sure he was referring to the "mod" as in the antifouler mod, or the mod where u have to relocate the bung on the s-pipe....
Im hoping to get this s-pipe myself...just wanna make sure everything will work smoothly.....

Sleep3r
05-01-2007, 03:58 PM
i have aw also, if you don't want any concerns get the megan s-pipe, i would have got zpi but it costs too much and the piping is 2.5"

Mugetsu
05-01-2007, 08:08 PM
No the antifouler mod will NOT fit the Invidia UNLESS you do like timmy and use the MMW antifouler OR weld another bung on it PERIOD!

IF you do not want to spend 40$ on the MMW fouler or have to weld another bung on to the s pipe DO NOT get the Invidia do MEGAN or better yet DRAXAN if you can find one.

Sleep3r
05-01-2007, 09:18 PM
^^ do u mean draxas?

Mugetsu
05-01-2007, 10:20 PM
why yes i do! :P

Sleep3r
05-01-2007, 11:22 PM
they got em on ebay for pretty cheap (100.00) but i didn't know about quality and thought it was another "cheap" ebay item

caveman
05-02-2007, 01:18 AM
No the antifouler mod will NOT fit the Invidia UNLESS you do like timmy and use the MMW antifouler OR weld another bung on it PERIOD!

IF you do not want to spend 40$ on the MMW fouler or have to weld another bung on to the s pipe DO NOT get the Invidia do MEGAN or better yet DRAXAN if you can find one.

Damn, that sux :tap: ....I might just have one made, since I am trying to stay 2.25...

Sorry if this is off topic, but would anyone happen to the Inner Diameter size on the meagan..

Thanks for the info though!....

Mugetsu
05-02-2007, 02:40 AM
Thats a mystery, Megan claims 2.25 so the inner D would be around 2.21####

But peeps who have it swear its 2.5 so...
no one knows...lol

caveman
05-02-2007, 11:05 AM
Thats a mystery, Megan claims 2.25 so the inner D would be around 2.21####

But peeps who have it swear its 2.5 so...
no one knows...lol


Wow.... :crazy:

Sleep3r
05-02-2007, 03:38 PM
megan is 2.25 period.........rounded up

onefatcloud
05-03-2007, 04:35 AM
i got the headers and the invidia s pipe. NO other weld in bung needed.

i will say this again for the guy that said the thing not going work. I GOT THE ANTI FOULER MOD ON THE THE S-PIPE. without the antifouler mod, i had a cel, after i did the mod and disconnected the battery for a while, it was gone and stayed gone. dont tell me the thing dont work, i am trying to help another out.

and for the guy asking, just do the headers and s-pipe combo, the less cats you got on the car= less restriction=better performance. (high end especially.) you might lose some low end, but just install some resonators for sound/backpressure and you will be fine.

GammaTNT
05-03-2007, 07:52 AM
thank Onefatcloud, my combo are coming soon, i can't wait.

Mugetsu
05-03-2007, 05:01 PM
i got the headers and the invidia s pipe. NO other weld in bung needed.

i will say this again for the guy that said the thing not going work. I GOT THE ANTI FOULER MOD ON THE THE S-PIPE. without the antifouler mod, i had a cel, after i did the mod and disconnected the battery for a while, it was gone and stayed gone. dont tell me the thing dont work, i am trying to help another out.

and for the guy asking, just do the headers and s-pipe combo, the less cats you got on the car= less restriction=better performance. (high end especially.) you might lose some low end, but just install some resonators for sound/backpressure and you will be fine.

I don't mean to be a penis but what with you getting "HEADERS" for your car and what ever "no other weld in bung" means.

I can't help but wonder if you know what your talking about.
I don't think you do, because no one ever said the antifouler "DOESN'T" work, it does as many people will tell you.(including me since i have one)

and i know from experience as well as from another friend as well as those here who have the Invidia s pipe that "both foulers" plus the O2 won't fit in the space between the Invidia's bung and the suspension.

but I HAVE heard of people who HAVE fit the entire assembly of the antifouler + the O2 into that very same spot. you are the second that i have heard of, while i have heard of more than 5 who have not being able to. so i was speaking from MY experience.

NOW read my post carefully so that you UNDERSTAND what the conversation is about... :P

onefatcloud
05-04-2007, 06:38 AM
hahaha ok sorry man here is the thing, i removed the o2 sensor that goes on the spipe and then did the anti fouler mod then put it back on the car. i couldnt get it on without taking the o2 sensor off the car first. sorry about my other post. hope i cleared it up.

and to the braddah that is getting the combo, idk about your exhaust but even with the stock one, the car will sound like ___ IMO. you will need some type off resonator because you dont have no cats anymore.

Mugetsu
05-04-2007, 04:59 PM
No problem bro, its just that thats how i got stuck modding "mods" my self lol.
no one told me that the Invidia pipe had trouble fitting the anifouler mod or that the Alpha header needed its "own" brackets to mount properly.
so now i just try to save peeps loot by informing them about what i had to learn the hard way...

GammaTNT
05-11-2007, 04:09 PM
I just installed them. Everything fits together very nicely. There is plenty of room for the antifouler.

The DC header with Injen intake has No Rasp at all.
With the S pipe added, it has some hissing sound at low rpm,

Mugetsu
05-11-2007, 10:27 PM
hmm...i wonder if the header itself has to do where the O2 bung sits in relation to the s pipe...

any pics?

onefatcloud
05-12-2007, 07:22 AM
that hissing is prolly the intake or an exhaust leak.

GammaTNT
05-12-2007, 03:40 PM
after 200 miles, the hissing is gone, It probably need to break in.

sciontc313
05-12-2007, 03:48 PM
GammaTNT what s-pipe did you get?? thanxz!

GammaTNT
05-13-2007, 01:30 AM
Invidia s pipe, just little rasp when accelerate hard. I love it overall.

SiL3nTKiLL
05-13-2007, 01:59 AM
you have the stock exhaust too?

GammaTNT
05-13-2007, 06:09 AM
you have the stock exhaust too?
Yes

phoenix_2o1_rising
05-13-2007, 11:01 AM
gamma, did you install the s pipeand everything yourself or did you take it to a shop?

GammaTNT
05-14-2007, 02:00 AM
i did header and s pipe myself.
my 14mm socket sucks. I think inside is rounded. I ran to Sears, they are out of stock.
Home Depot and Lowes don't have 6 points sockets. (people told me 12 points socket are more prone to rounding cornering. )
Pep Boys got the 6 points 14 mm socket. Working great with my home made break bar.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/breakbar.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/breakbar2.jpg

I needed that pipe (and alot of PB blaster)to break the bolts loose. My bolts were rust.

GammaTNT
05-14-2007, 07:09 PM
hmm...i wonder if the header itself has to do where the O2 bung sits in relation to the s pipe...

any pics?

The antifoul sit on the s pipe perfect, There is a lot room.
I don't know why someone said it won't fit.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/spipe.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/o2sensor.jpg

Mugetsu
05-14-2007, 08:07 PM
Hmm...coud be a few things.

do you have an 07 or 06?
also maybe word got around to Invidia and they changed the placement of the bung.

I know a few people that have the Invidia(including my self) and have had to relocate the O2, because it would hit a part of the suspension whith the antifouler on.

Good job on the install thought.

Ex_sPEC
08-17-2007, 08:27 AM
hmm...i wonder if the header itself has to do where the O2 bung sits in relation to the s pipe...

any pics?

The antifoul sit on the s pipe perfect, There is a lot room.
I don't know why someone said it won't fit.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010002.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010001.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/spipe.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/o2sensor.jpg





did u drop ur car? ? ?

GammaTNT
08-17-2007, 01:41 PM
no, my suspension is stock

Ex_sPEC
08-17-2007, 04:39 PM
u think if the car is drop, that it would hit part of the suspension parts ? ? ? ?

tonystewart
08-17-2007, 05:09 PM
I have upgraded my daughters new fully loaded 08 TC with TRD suspension, Borla Exhaust, HID lowbeams and Redline Tuning Hood strut.

With the stock exhaust manifold, will the s pipe make a noticeable performance difference?

Mugetsu
08-17-2007, 06:35 PM
Performance wise you will not feel any gains, but it will give that borla exhaust a slightly(ever so) louder rumble.

edit*
to better answer you question, the gains in performance will not justify the price of the S-pipe...now if you were to replace both the S-and MID pipes you would feel a nice lil boost in the higher range.

5 speed or auto?

tonystewart
08-17-2007, 09:04 PM
It is an automatic, my daughter didn't want the five speed.

Also after reading alot of comments, the car becomes rather loud with a header, the reason I didn't already install one.

A young man in my neighborhood has a 07 TC 5 speed with a dc header and an s pipe, but stock exhaust. It is quite loud, can't imagine it with my daughters' borla exhaust on there.

Mugetsu
08-17-2007, 09:33 PM
No i don't recommend anyone change the header any more, particularly on an automatic, its not worth the hassle and the auto's really benefit from the the low end TQ the stock manifold gives.

if you want to keep the sound no louder than it is then i would keep the stock S and Mid pipes.

I would also recommend a "rear sway bar" but i think the auto already come with a stiffer one than the 5 speeds.

tonystewart
08-17-2007, 10:06 PM
I did the complete TRD suspension, springs, struts, shocks, swaybar, alignment, enkei 18" wheels, Pirelli Pzero Nero tires, full body kit with rear lip spoiler, hotchkis front strut bar, monster motorworks rear strut bar, all done before the car had 250 miles.

Did I forget anything, oh yeah she is scheduled for 2- 2 hour track sessions at Moroso Motorsports Park in October, high performance driving school.

Modify car, modify driver.

Mugetsu
08-19-2007, 12:02 AM
Wow nice.

looks like she is all set.

you may be able to free up some HP swapping out the S-pipe and Mid-pipe for a 2.25 S-pipe and 2.25 catless MID-pipe and still keep the sound levels down by using 2 20" perforated core straight through mufflers on the mid pipe.
the gains would be in the High rpm range thought...