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xravexboix
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| Posted: 5/17/08 8:42AM Post subject: xB2 Supercharger PTR41-52080 - ScionLife Price of... |
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PTR41-52080 Main Supercharger Assembly with Install Kit (Manual Trans)
MSRP: $3600.00 x_X
PTR41-52091 Automatic Trans Fit Kit
MSRP: $125.00 x_X
Installation Manual: (has pictoral guide of included items)
http://www.longoparts.com/ScionLife/pdf/PTR41-52080.pdf ~6.5mb
ScionLife Member Price:
PTR41-52080 Supercharger (MT)
ScionLife.com: $3320.00 shipped (48 states)
https://www.longoparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=54_55&products_id=1257
PTR41-52091 Automatic Trans Fitment Kit
ScionLife.com: $125.00 shipped (48 states)
https://www.longoparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=54_55&products_id=1258
TRD has not released the output of the supercharger yet. It is currently assumed to be at +40 hp, +40 lb-ft-- similar to the tC. |
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az_pinoy
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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| Posted: 5/17/08 9:10AM Post subject: |
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damn Jeff...easy on the specials man :rofl: j/k :P
does the 3600 MSRP include installation/labor already?
JC |
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xravexboix
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| Posted: 5/17/08 9:20AM Post subject: |
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That's just the part. THe installation looks very similar to the tC so far, so our price would be in the $500-$550 ballpark.
We'll see how it goes though :doh: It better have more juice for that price |
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808-213-503
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| Posted: 5/17/08 10:22AM Post subject: |
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| Slightly better #s is what I'd hope for, since the air intake goes to the front bumper side vent. |
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ShaffNasty
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| Posted: 5/17/08 8:54PM Post subject: |
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| So basically $4k for around 50hp... hmmmm... |
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XD40tC
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| Posted: 5/18/08 5:59AM Post subject: |
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Yeah its not a nice price. I feel like it will perform better than the tC did though. Hopefully it wont have the same issues but I feel like it might...
I feel a lot of things... lol |
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coryjames
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| Posted: 5/18/08 2:40PM Post subject: |
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| worthless |
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mikeyxB
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| Posted: 5/18/08 7:32PM Post subject: |
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| my eyes bugged out when i read the xB accessory guide at my dealer today. cant wait to see a special price. |
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coryjames
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| Posted: 5/18/08 7:35PM Post subject: |
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| lol for that much you could go simple kit and make real power |
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spring
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| Posted: 5/19/08 8:28AM Post subject: |
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coryjames wrote: lol for that much you could go simple kit and make real power
Or you could get the S/C and add a 9.5 psi NHT pulley and produce about 250 hp like some of the TC guys have. Pretty much a wash at that point, and I don't see why anyne would want to go higher HP than that with stock internals.
Unless your racing, if you are why are you doing it with a BOX, the xB hardly needs anything over 200hp anyhow. At that weight it's got more power to weight ratio than a stock V6 Mustang.
I just don't see the point of going crazy with power for the xB. If you want to do that you should have started with a more capable car. |
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spring
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xravexboix wrote: That's just the part. THe installation looks very similar to the tC so far, so our price would be in the $500-$550 ballpark.
We'll see how it goes though :doh: It better have more juice for that price
Are you anticipating more power or hoping?
The little info I have seen is that TRD intended on a 200hp goal. |
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stuckpig9
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Pico Rivera, CA
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| Posted: 5/19/08 9:03AM Post subject: |
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| At scion united they had a demo going of the install and the tech said about 204hp. |
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coryjames
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| Posted: 5/19/08 9:16AM Post subject: |
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| oh no not 200 hp and the box is capable its easy to buy a fast car and makt faster but a slow car made into a rocket is better and u know it 300 hp on stock internals is ok think u have to put a 9!5 pully on i will be a 8psi so tell me whats harder on the motor |
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xravexboix
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| Posted: 5/19/08 11:19AM Post subject: |
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spring wrote: xravexboix wrote: That's just the part. THe installation looks very similar to the tC so far, so our price would be in the $500-$550 ballpark.
We'll see how it goes though :doh: It better have more juice for that price
Are you anticipating more power or hoping?
The little info I have seen is that TRD intended on a 200hp goal.
It's hope, not anticipation.
TRD released numbers are crank rated, so it sounds like the 40hp gain as we were expecting. I didn't know the xB kit was coming out until the released a part number a few months back. That part number received the dreaded D4 status (Stop Sale) and then a DD status (discontinued part number). This part number is a newer version and at a higher price point, so, hopefully, we'll see something improved over the tC's charger. |
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spring
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coryjames wrote: oh no not 200 hp and the box is capable its easy to buy a fast car and makt faster but a slow car made into a rocket is better and u know it 300 hp on stock internals is ok think u have to put a 9!5 pully on i will be a 8psi so tell me whats harder on the motor
Just b/c you happen to go another route on your car does not mean the TRD S/C is "worthless." If you go the pulley route it is plenty capable to prouce a lot of power, more than you'll ever need. IT doesn't matter the Turbo produces more power cheaper. A lot of folks would rather just throw on the TRD, and keep the warranty and reliability 100% in tact.
Not worthless. |
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spring
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| Posted: 5/19/08 11:54AM Post subject: |
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xravexboix wrote: spring wrote: xravexboix wrote: That's just the part. THe installation looks very similar to the tC so far, so our price would be in the $500-$550 ballpark.
We'll see how it goes though :doh: It better have more juice for that price
Are you anticipating more power or hoping?
The little info I have seen is that TRD intended on a 200hp goal.
It's hope, not anticipation.
TRD released numbers are crank rated, so it sounds like the 40hp gain as we were expecting. I didn't know the xB kit was coming out until the released a part number a few months back. That part number received the dreaded D4 status (Stop Sale) and then a DD status (discontinued part number). This part number is a newer version and at a higher price point, so, hopefully, we'll see something improved over the tC's charger.
220+ HP would be perfect for the S/C. That seems to be the number most want |
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xravexboix
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| Posted: 5/19/08 11:58AM Post subject: |
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Yea... I would think most people know the reality: xB != race car. With that said, it's just livening up the daily driving experience and getting some power out of the box.
Grated, at this price point, it's a pretty steep modification, but it's worth it to most people.
For example, my dinosaur Supra (89 7M-GTE) is heavy and slow, but still fun to drive. Many people question my choice to purchase this dinosaur and fix it up-- it's always been a car I've wanted (love the styling) and gets the job done. Not everyone wants an overpowered car on the road- but 300 rwhp is more than enough in most cases. |
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coryjames
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| Posted: 5/19/08 2:48PM Post subject: |
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| yeah the xb does have alot of potential what would break a sti's heart more then to get smoked by a scion xb thats just priceless lol |
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714xb
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| Posted: 5/19/08 3:54PM Post subject: |
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spring wrote: Just b/c you happen to go another route on your car does not mean the TRD S/C is "worthless." If you go the pulley route it is plenty capable to prouce a lot of power, more than you'll ever need. IT doesn't matter the Turbo produces more power cheaper. A lot of folks would rather just throw on the TRD, and keep the warranty and reliability 100% in tact.
Not worthless.
I don't think the warranty will remain in tact after you install a supercharger. It is probably intended for off road use only. |
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808-213-503
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| Posted: 5/19/08 4:01PM Post subject: |
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714xb wrote: I don't think the warranty will remain in tact after you install a supercharger. It is probably intended for off road use only.
My understanding is that part of the reason why it took TRD so long to bring the SC out for the xB was that it had to pass CA's smog test(strictest in the nation and if it passed CA, it'll pass anywhere else). The TRD supercharger maintains the warranty completely (parts and install if Scion does the install / or just the parts if you install yourself).
That's the real attraction to sticking with TRD (and paying that extra $$$) - street-legal and everything is inclusive in the warranty since it's all from Toyota. |
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