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ElevationTC



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: Utica NY

Posted: 8/17/08 5:26PM    Post subject: Whats it take!  

Well last test and tune is the 30th of this month!

Last time i went to the track with my car my best run was a 14.4450@96.34 with a 2.2258 60 ft.

This was with a full custom stereo, 18" rims with nankangs!

I wanna runs 13s. 13.9999 :)

so what can i do to shave those .4450 seconds off!

Im thinking removing stereo, running stock 17s with neogens on them!

I was launching at 2krpms before.


Any insite is appreciated please!
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brett561tc



Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: 8/17/08 5:30PM    Post subject: Re: Whats it take!  

ElevationTC wrote: Well last test and tune is the 30th of this month!

Last time i went to the track with my car my best run was a 14.4450@96.34 with a 2.2258 60 ft.

This was with a full custom stereo, 18" rims with nankangs!

I wanna runs 13s. 13.9999 :)

so what can i do to shave those .4450 seconds off!

Im thinking removing stereo, running stock 17s with neogens on them!

I was launching at 2krpms before.


Any insite is appreciated please!
judging by your info posted. if you can get a 2.0 60' you should be in the 13's. look into some drag radials.
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ElevationTC



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Posted: 8/17/08 5:33PM    Post subject:  

do they make them for 17's?
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brett561tc



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Posted: 8/17/08 5:36PM    Post subject:  

ElevationTC wrote: do they make them for 17's?
im pretty sure BFGoodwrench makes dr's that fit stock tc rims.
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ElevationTC



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Posted: 8/17/08 5:41PM    Post subject:  

found them 143 a tire! Not bad! Whats a good 60ft with a tc?
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highvoltage1



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Location: USCG Seattle

Posted: 8/17/08 7:25PM    Post subject:  

Yea lose the system for drag racing and get somethign better than neogens for the strip. !7's will help a lil . Just get that reaction time down and you should eb there.
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CSOCSO



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Posted: 8/17/08 7:36PM    Post subject:  

go bulimic...loose the spare tire and the subwoofers
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draxcaliber



Joined: 20 Sep 2006
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Location: Maryland

Posted: 8/17/08 7:42PM    Post subject:  

see if you could shave 400 pounds off the cars curb weight...
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Ace83



Joined: 26 Aug 2006
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Location: TX

Posted: 8/17/08 7:59PM    Post subject:  

yup loose those weights and get better tires, but are you s/ced right? how much boost do you have?
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ElevationTC



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Posted: 8/18/08 4:10AM    Post subject:  

peep the profile for mods!
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B_Real45



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Location: South Florida

Posted: 8/18/08 5:45AM    Post subject:  

I would do the following:

-Remove stereo
-Remove spare tire and tools
-Remove passenger seat and rear seat cushions
-Get Drag Radials on stock tires
-Run low pressure in the drag radials
-On the first couple of runs, concentrate ONLY on your launch.. forget about the rest of the drag.
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toyota_scion_tc



Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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Location: Tennessee

Posted: 8/18/08 6:36AM    Post subject:  

Try launching a little higher. I got a 2.2 with sorry bald OEM tires, I launched just over 2k to start but the car seemed to bog down a little so I went to 3200 or so it was perfect. Got consistant 2.2 after.
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B_Real45



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Posted: 8/18/08 7:11AM    Post subject:  

Guys, 2.2 60ft is terrible.

I got that with 17" 205/40 nankook tires way back in a Saturn SC2.. and that was my first time ever on a drag strip.

There's no reason you shouldn't get closer to 2.0 60 ft on street tires.

With Drag Radials you should be in 1.9's.. conservatively speaking.
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toyota_scion_tc



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Posted: 8/18/08 7:48AM    Post subject:  

B_Real45 wrote: Guys, 2.2 60ft is terrible.

I got that with 17" 205/40 nankook tires way back in a Saturn SC2.. and that was my first time ever on a drag strip.

There's no reason you shouldn't get closer to 2.0 60 ft on street tires.

With Drag Radials you should be in 1.9's.. conservatively speaking.

Does a Saturn have LSD? I never said a 2.2 was good but in the tC with the sorry OEM tires a 2.2 was the best time I have ever got. With LSD I could easily get a 2,0 and with drags get 1.8.
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B_Real45



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Posted: 8/18/08 8:26AM    Post subject:  

Relax - my comment wasn't an attack.

I'm just saying that 2.2 isn't something you should shoot for.

A Saturn doesn't have an LSD - in fact, when I had the car, a Quaife application wasn't even available.

An open diff FWD car with a decent driver should be able to pull close to 2.0 60's on street tires.
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ElevationTC



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Location: Utica NY

Posted: 8/18/08 12:43PM    Post subject:  

Saturn does not have the toque i would assume. My s/ced tc if i let it will spin tires through redline in 1st 2nd 3rd. At a 2k launch it was kept minimal!

Not sure just taking a guess?

Thanks for all the input!
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B_Real45



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Posted: 8/18/08 12:54PM    Post subject:  

ElevationTC wrote: Saturn does not have the toque i would assume. My s/ced tc if i let it will spin tires through redline in 1st 2nd 3rd. At a 2k launch it was kept minimal!

Not sure just taking a guess?

Thanks for all the input!

The Saturn was around 120hp/125tq at the time. It also only weighed 2300lbs. That's over 600lbs lighter than our car. Not to mention 205/40 profile tires are actually thinner than 225/40.. less sidewall = less flex = less traction off the line.

In any case - the idea is you should work on your launch and 60ft's. The rest will come once you get those right. Also, what clutch are you using?
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darkscion



Joined: 04 Jun 2007
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Location: salt lake city,utah

Posted: 8/18/08 6:19PM    Post subject:  

preload the clutch a little right before you launch,that way your not putting all that power to the drivetrain at once.dont bring it out enough to make the car move forward,just a little is all it takes.
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mattieg



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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Posted: 8/18/08 6:48PM    Post subject:  

To preload the clutch do you take it from the floor and move it about an inch or so? And rev at about 2k then dump it or let the clutch slide?
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ElevationTC



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: Utica NY

Posted: 8/18/08 6:50PM    Post subject:  

stocker with 52k on it :owe
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