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RusWolf
Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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Location: Yonkers, NY
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| Posted: 8/18/08 8:12AM Post subject: Emanage Ultimate in the long run ? |
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Hello guys, as some of you might knwo i sold my AEM FIC and wanting to get Emanage Ultimate as from the research i've done EManage Ultimate for now is more reliable. Now i've contacted one of the local tuning shop in NY metro area " No limit Motorsport" and whoever is talking to me via emals basically said that i;m taking a step back with Ultimate and here are few emails he sent me.
EMAIL 1:
OK, well, I must say, you actually took a step backwards in terms of reliability. The AEM would have done a much better job, and helped prevent exactly what you said, “in case cars starts to act weird after the tune ?”
After the car is tuned, if there are any small problems or certain spots that need to be cleaned up, so the car drives better, by all means, yes, we will do it. If after 3 months, the ECU has totally corrected what the emanage is trying to compensate for, we will try to clear the stock computer for you, and hope that it fixes it. Otherwise, for full throttle, the tune usually isn’t a problem and will hold. When you have everything installed and running, please let us know so we can schedule a day for you to come down. Thanx
EMAIL 2:
Its not so much that its defiantly going to happen, override, that is. There isn’t much of a serious problem, as it normally only overrides the low end (partial throttle), however, if for some reason, it started messing with the full throttle stuff, that could be bad. I cant remember if I tuned a Scion with a emanage lately, since most of them have used the FIC. I guess, best thing I could recommend, would be to get on the forums, see what people are having the best short and long term results with, and go with that. The emanage will defiantly work as long as you have the extra MAP sensor so it can be tuned with boost, which is one nice thing about the AEM, since it has a built in MAP sensor.
SO guys what should i do ? any inputs to helo me finally decide ? |
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B_Real45
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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Location: South Florida
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| Posted: 8/18/08 8:29AM Post subject: |
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| What were your reasons for ditching the F/IC? |
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RusWolf
Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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Location: Yonkers, NY
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| Posted: 8/18/08 8:36AM Post subject: |
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| Not having any good tuners for FIC in NYC .. ppl having hick-ups few weeks after the tune is done. |
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B_Real45
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| Posted: 8/18/08 8:40AM Post subject: |
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How bad are the "hiccups?" Because once you start modding your car, it will never run like it did factory. There are always things that will be a little off.
There should be plenty of places in NYC that can tune an F/IC. Why not Dezod or No Limit like you posted in your first post? |
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j3st3r
Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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| Posted: 8/18/08 8:45AM Post subject: |
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| Contact Ptuning and see what they say about the E-manage Ultimate, they are using the Ultimate on their tC time attack car, and they are having little to know problems. However I am not sure how much work they have into programming it. |
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RusWolf
Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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Location: Yonkers, NY
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| Posted: 8/18/08 9:02AM Post subject: |
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B_Real45 wrote: How bad are the "hiccups?" Because once you start modding your car, it will never run like it did factory. There are always things that will be a little off.
There should be plenty of places in NYC that can tune an F/IC. Why not Dezod or No Limit like you posted in your first post?
Well there are few places, No Limit Motorsport , there is also Ripp Modz to name a few...
but for example local member Ejoithis had problems after a tune done my Rip Modz, aldo markymarc had problems as well.
I did see one member posted that hes car was running good after No Limir Motorsport tuned it.
Dezod shop is in buffali thats 6 hours away. and with u-tuned car it will take even longer, plus i really dont wan tto drive untuned car for 6 hours straight. |
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05-RS1
Joined: 17 May 2005
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Location: Houston, TX
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| Posted: 8/18/08 11:23AM Post subject: |
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| i've never had an issues with the utlimate. the ECU never tried to override it or anything as far as i know. also, if it does override the tune, you can reload your map. if it keeps re-occuring thats when you would need to take it in for another session. |
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RusWolf
Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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| Posted: 8/18/08 5:24PM Post subject: |
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^^^ thank for the feedback man.
Come on guys anyone else want to leave feedbck ?!
I know there are more people running FIC or Emanage Ultimate ..
P.S. I sent Ptuning PM this morning, no answer yet. |
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Ace83
Joined: 26 Aug 2006
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Location: TX
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| Posted: 8/18/08 5:41PM Post subject: |
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| ^^ i think theyre busy rebuilding their tc.. but yeah every tuner has different opinions and preference on which unit they want to tune.. go to someone who is willing or believe what your EMS can do, or else be ready to get not a very good tune |
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highvoltage1
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: 8/19/08 5:44AM Post subject: |
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| hey Yev, As far as I know from reading on the forum the emanage Ultimate is a great piggyback. I have not ever read of any major issues and if there where any issues its usually with the tune anyways. The AEM f/ic is good but i believe the Ultimate has a few certain areas it is better in than the f/ic from the opinions i have read. Id ask Dezod what they think though or try contacting p-tuning. |
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highvoltage1
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| Posted: 8/19/08 5:48AM Post subject: |
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http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=223112&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=60
Check out thsi thread after page 3 they start talking about some piggybacks and full stand alones. They say a few good things with about the ultimate and i believe they say you can raise the rev-limiter with the ultimate which you cannot do with the AEM f/ic. |
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Skeeeett
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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| Posted: 8/19/08 5:58AM Post subject: |
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| i just picked up the Ultimate myself and i've heard really good things about it that its prob better than any of the other piggy backs...i kno the FIC has problems people tell me not to get it and told me to go with the ultimate thats y i got it and im having this shop in college point/whitestone called RCT performance they do really good tunning...the tunner flies in from out of state(not saying just bc that hes good) but i've seen a couple of cars they build fully and not fully run pretty damn good....one integra my brothers friends car is pushing over 500 to the wheels in it..i kno its not a tc but they kno how to tune good try calling them and talking with them about it since i kno ur in the new york area as well the number and address is........1718-321-0980 college point ny 11356 122-16 15th avenue give them a call and see what they say...im making an apointment soon i gotta have mine tuned im putting everything in this weekend hopefully they can help u out or somthing doesnt hurt to try |
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RusWolf
Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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Location: Yonkers, NY
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| Posted: 8/20/08 1:05PM Post subject: |
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Thanks alot for replys guys, i really appreciate it.
Brock thanks for the link definately good infor there...
Skeett, i actually heard of that before i will certanly contact them once everything is in...
yup i'm pretty much decided on EManage Ultimate again.
P-tuning replied to my PM with VERY good answer...
now the only question is, do i need pressure sensor or not ?
my gauges have external port some kind , that you can connect to it and tune... |
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highvoltage1
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| Posted: 8/20/08 2:32PM Post subject: |
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| No prob Yev, |
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Ace83
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| Posted: 8/20/08 3:02PM Post subject: |
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RusWolf wrote: Thanks alot for replys guys, i really appreciate it.
Brock thanks for the link definately good infor there...
Skeett, i actually heard of that before i will certanly contact them once everything is in...
yup i'm pretty much decided on EManage Ultimate again.
P-tuning replied to my PM with VERY good answer...
now the only question is, do i need pressure sensor or not ?
my gauges have external port some kind , that you can connect to it and tune...
pressure sensor I say is a must, you can run without it but it makes your tune a lot better |
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Skeeeett
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| Posted: 8/20/08 4:49PM Post subject: |
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| no problem |
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Rydrdg
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| Posted: 8/20/08 5:03PM Post subject: |
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| I have emanage ultimate for 4 month already running great an it is tune around the trd reflash |
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