Scions at SEMA 2009!
11-17-2009, 12:46 AM
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11-17-2009, 03:45 AM
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see what people don't understand.. when people are into the SHOW world as deep as some of us are or WERE (lol).. there is just a diff. thrill.. just like racing.. your still competing, there is alot of time and energy and money invested... and hate to say it.. but the average show car has $45,000 invested with diff. mods. and thats not including hours of travel, hotels, detailing your car for hours, etc..
and sema is not a competing car show per say...
it's more for concept cars, and to show off vendor products...
11-17-2009, 11:48 AM
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I can see how people would be so into the idea that they would dump so much money into it. Everyone has their own thing.
On the topic of classics.... can you not say that these are modern classics because they're one of a kind? And by never driving them they will be something amazing in 20 years.
On the topic of classics.... can you not say that these are modern classics because they're one of a kind? And by never driving them they will be something amazing in 20 years.
11-17-2009, 12:32 PM
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no...
some of the cars that go to a shows are dealer/manufactered cars... they are sold to people strictly to build.. no title, just a rolling billboard.
the only cars that will be worth anything one day will be anything thats classed in the muscle..
the new cameros, saleen mustangs, nothing in the import world.
you could buy any honda, scion, toyota off the show room floor take it home and park it for 20 years and not be worth anything...
if a car is modified like most of the cars at any show... they are worth pennies on the dollar.
the only way a car will be worth money if some famous built it/had it built or died in it..
but other than that..
paper weights
some of the cars that go to a shows are dealer/manufactered cars... they are sold to people strictly to build.. no title, just a rolling billboard.
the only cars that will be worth anything one day will be anything thats classed in the muscle..
the new cameros, saleen mustangs, nothing in the import world.
you could buy any honda, scion, toyota off the show room floor take it home and park it for 20 years and not be worth anything...
if a car is modified like most of the cars at any show... they are worth pennies on the dollar.
the only way a car will be worth money if some famous built it/had it built or died in it..
but other than that..
paper weights
11-17-2009, 01:03 PM
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no...
some of the cars that go to a shows are dealer/manufactered cars... they are sold to people strictly to build.. no title, just a rolling billboard.
the only cars that will be worth anything one day will be anything thats classed in the muscle..
the new cameros, saleen mustangs, nothing in the import world.
you could buy any honda, scion, toyota off the show room floor take it home and park it for 20 years and not be worth anything...
if a car is modified like most of the cars at any show... they are worth pennies on the dollar.
the only way a car will be worth money if some famous built it/had it built or died in it..
but other than that..
paper weights
some of the cars that go to a shows are dealer/manufactered cars... they are sold to people strictly to build.. no title, just a rolling billboard.
the only cars that will be worth anything one day will be anything thats classed in the muscle..
the new cameros, saleen mustangs, nothing in the import world.
you could buy any honda, scion, toyota off the show room floor take it home and park it for 20 years and not be worth anything...
if a car is modified like most of the cars at any show... they are worth pennies on the dollar.
the only way a car will be worth money if some famous built it/had it built or died in it..
but other than that..
paper weights
And you're right on the no-title thing. Basically, people take ~$45,000 (your number), dump it into a car that can't be driven on the street, then it goes to the crusher. Could have spent that money on a classic car, let it sit/cared for it for 20 years, and you could very possibly have $450,000 sitting there.
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11-17-2009, 01:21 PM
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not like you think...
the honda s2000 is gonna be the 240 or a 87 corrola of today.. they hold their value alittle bit more but not much...
there is no way a s2000 will increase invalue over 20 years.
just to put this way the average s2000 is going for right around $24k used and most of them are 2004-2007 with 15,000-30,000 miles,
thats over $10,000 lost in 5-2 years.. just because it's a rear wheel drive honda and it was featured in fast and furious doesn't mean its gonna be the next supra/ 69 gto.. no way
don't get me wrong.. the s2000 will be worth money. but i don't see it holding it's value...
i think the s2000 will be another one of those cars that are gonna be a _____ to find when our kids want to rice it out..lol
And you're right on the no-title thing. Basically, people take ~$45,000 (your number), dump it into a car that can't be driven on the street, then it goes to the crusher. Could have spent that money on a classic car, let it sit/cared for it for 20 years, and you could very possibly have $450,000 sitting there.
that $450,000 number is no joke.
my father inlaw has a cuda fully restored all matching numbers with less than 20,000 miles and is looking at over $200,000
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11-17-2009, 01:31 PM
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The price is still dropping on them because they're still making new ones. The Supra did the exact same thing when they were being made. The S2K isn't going to be ridiculously high valued, but it will go back up in value.
And using a current example of a used S2K is like saying that back in the late 90's, a used Supra sold for twice the amount as a new one. Once the Supra was killed off and they became harder and harder to find, the value went up.
He should have got the convertible, because they sell for over $2 million. And if you don't think that $200k will be $400k in 20 years, you're sadly mistaken. In 20 years, you can cut the number of existing Cuda's in half, at least. ESPECIALLY considering the ICE will be killing off within the next 20 years.
Edit: Sorry, I read your post wrong, I thought you said that $450k was a joke, lol.
And using a current example of a used S2K is like saying that back in the late 90's, a used Supra sold for twice the amount as a new one. Once the Supra was killed off and they became harder and harder to find, the value went up.
Edit: Sorry, I read your post wrong, I thought you said that $450k was a joke, lol.
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11-17-2009, 01:40 PM
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^ I agree on that one!
well, as for throwing all that money into a car...I can see it if it will be used. But I'm a consumer and a utilizer of the product itself, I'm not building a car from scratch like the SEMA cars tend to be. There's a line where modification turns to alteration and these are no longer vehicles yet chassis in which vendors can display their new products upon....oh and they have way deeper pockets than the majority of us.
In short, I'm just glad Scion is still turning heads at SEMA, either way, we haven't been pushed aside for the next fad yet.
well, as for throwing all that money into a car...I can see it if it will be used. But I'm a consumer and a utilizer of the product itself, I'm not building a car from scratch like the SEMA cars tend to be. There's a line where modification turns to alteration and these are no longer vehicles yet chassis in which vendors can display their new products upon....oh and they have way deeper pockets than the majority of us.
In short, I'm just glad Scion is still turning heads at SEMA, either way, we haven't been pushed aside for the next fad yet.
11-17-2009, 01:41 PM
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The price is still dropping on them because they're still making new ones. The Supra did the exact same thing when they were being made. The S2K isn't going to be ridiculously high valued, but it will go back up in value.
And using a current example of a used S2K is like saying that back in the late 90's, a used Supra sold for twice the amount as a new one. Once the Supra was killed off and they became harder and harder to find, the value went up.
And using a current example of a used S2K is like saying that back in the late 90's, a used Supra sold for twice the amount as a new one. Once the Supra was killed off and they became harder and harder to find, the value went up.
your right i didn't think about that...
i think it would go thru the roof if they were boosted from stock...
11-17-2009, 01:47 PM
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The S2K is a low produced, highly desired, sports car. The value will go back up. They won't anywhere near a late 60's muscle car, but it sure as hell isn't going to sink to the bottom like a '91 Camry. I mean just look at Mini Coopers. They're selling for $15-40k now...simply because it's what people want. The S2K is considered on the last true sports cars made. No frills, no electronic suspension, just a pure-bred, track made car.
11-18-2009, 09:31 AM
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blah blah blah . . . sick cars. thank you for investing your time and money for whoever built them to give me some ideas for the next mod. Im just grateful people are doing crazy mods with a 2nd gen, maybe we can get more parts on the market so we dont have to spend so much damn money on custom parts. those rides are dope!
11-19-2009, 01:48 AM
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