Johnnyaf87

The car is going in feb 4 for a full motor build. Currently on the car:
Dezod V2 green header & Cat-back exhaust, Invidia S-pipe, TRD CAI, RX8 TB, PROefi ecu, ACT lightweight flywheel & CC stage 1 clutch.
176whp/187wtq
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Build parts:
Kings bearings, Molnar Rods, Weisco custom forge pistons 11:1, Kelford Stage 2 cams, Supertech spring / retainers, AEM fuel rail, Dezod return fuel system, Denso 510cc injectors, ES motor mount inserts....

criminaltc

Very nice. Look forward to seeing it after the motor build. Thumbs down on the Kelford cams though. What made you go with those?

Johnnyaf87

whats wrong with kelford? i prefer them over BC cams. Plus my tuner is a kelford dealer so I was able to get them at cost.

criminaltc

I mean, they don't offer too many different brands for the 2AZ so you really can't win. I'm not a Brian Crower fan either. Both Kelford and Brian Crower have repeated issues with their profiles and centerlines. But with you not even pushing 200hp, you won't even notice, so I really didn't need to say anthing. But if you were boosted and pushing 400hp, you could have issues if you got a bad batch. Manufacture malfunctions are part of the game and it's always a crap shoot no matter what you get, it's just that Kelford is known a little more for issues you know.

Johnnyaf87

Hmmm I get what your saying.

But your right, not much of a selection so getting them at cost was the best choice I could make.

criminaltc

Exactly.

Either way, I still want to see some pulls with your new motor. Keep us posted.

burgandybomber

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So when do you plan on boosting?

Johnnyaf87

probably never unless I want to sleeve the block, upgrade the tranny and axles, and get an LSD.

criminaltc

You don't need sleeves. The 2AZ is a tough bottom end. Your upgraded pistons and rods will be plenty. No need to spend $1500 on sleeves. I've done that, and still had rods go through them. And if your walls get scored up for some reason, just spend the money to bore it out a little more and get bigger pistons. Tranny is important as you mentioned, axles are even more important (which a lot of people do not do and do not think that it is possible to spin those right off), and obviously the LSD.

Johnnyaf87

Well that is good to know about the sleeves, I do worry a bit about the getting the power down. The block is gonna get bored .020 when they do the build as a just in case measure.

criminaltc

Well I would hope so to get those forge pistons in there!

FIREDOG21

^ watching! Let's see if your right crim about the N/a's!! Hahaha

criminaltc

Haha. I'm telling you man. He's already only at a buck 76 right now. The internals aren't going to give him much more...

FIREDOG21

Is it something to do with the head set up? valve train / cams that makes these things inefficient in a N/A build??

Boggling my mind!!

criminaltc

You know, I'm not sure. I mean raising up compression should do a world of a difference for this car, but, eh... I don't know if the pflow is low from the port sizes or what! Read up on some builds and look at what they've done.

Johnnyaf87

probably the most informed thread to follow for N/A would be TCPETE.
Think he made around 220whp w/o building the head and self tuned on a piggyback. So in theory I should make more from a head and standalone ecu. Regardless it'll be a fun ride when its done.

criminaltc

There's a few N/A builds that all had cams, and they were just inside 200. I don't know...

Johnnyaf87

cams and a bottom end build with high comp pistons? under 200 seems not right.... unless they are all untuned.

criminaltc

No, you are right, higher compression is going to bring up your horsepower quite a bit, and yes, it'll be plenty fun and you WILL notice the difference. I was just letting my friend here, Firebones, know unbeneficial it CAN be to do an N/A build. I'm still pumped to your see you're set up and see a couple pulls.

FIREDOG21

Dammit... another one! Im just gonna start dropping audi jabs now!! HAHAHA

My Sol was 13.1/1 which I know doesn't compare to the 2AZ, but even with everything... just odd. I know its not beneficial if your looking for serious power gains... that's why im going boost!!

And yes... I wanna see the numbers too!