Intake Shootout Done (Updated)!!!!
#1
Intake Shootout Done (Updated)!!!!
Everyone is talking and no one is doing so I took it upon myself to gather some of the major intakes on the market and take them for a dyno run.
First off before I go off on any information I would like to give major props out to
Chris and his Crew at HOOK-UPS Import Tek in Upland for helping me find out the truth. Without Chris's expertise on dyno testing and his calibrated DYNOJET none of this would be possible. He's very interested in helping out the Scion community so anyone needs anything please hit him up. He supported us and we should support him!!!!
Also props to:
Steve @ bBist.com for directing me to HOOK-UPS Import Tek. If you all don't know then check out the cool stuff that www.bBist.com offers.
Also to these people/companies for donating/lending intakes to the cause:
Dude w/ the AEM (Still in the box from the dealership)
The Crew @ Injen (Thought it was cool what I was doing even if it didn't favor them)
Eric @ E.L. Prototypes (Sorry about the last minute notice)
John @ SPFR (Has since taken the intake back for further inspection)***EDITED***
Anyways...here it goes.
Time:
Dec. 10th @ 12pm
Place:
HOOK UPS Import Tek
8455 Loma Place
Upland, CA. 91786
909-373-RACE
People working on it:
Chris running the dyno
Me (Scionic) doing the installs
Richard (aka CamoScion) doing the picture taking
Subject:
My Blue Onyx xB 5 speed w/ ~10K miles on it
Stock w/ the exception of a grounding kit by Happies (OG Scionlife member that has since gone AWOL)
Dyno:
3 month old DYNOJET that is well kept, well calibrated, well placed (towards the front of the shop and facing outward toward fresh cool air)
Method:
3 runs per intake with cool down intervals of 3 minutes
Doing a simple Baseline measuring the peak HP & lbs/ft @ the wheels
All intakes are brand new still in sealed package
Intakes: (in the order that they were tested)
1. Stock
2. AEM Cold Air
3. Injen Short Ram
4. SPFR Cold Air
5. EL Prototypes Cold Air
Results: (to make it fair I compared the first run results)
Stock:
92.73 Hp / 95.82 lb/ft.
AEM:
95.86 Hp / 99.09 lb/ft.
+3.13 Hp / +3.27 lb/ft
Injen:
96.80 Hp / 100.59 lb/ft.
+4.07 Hp / +4.77 lb/ft.
SPFR:
94.15 Hp / 98.95 lb/ft.
+1.42 Hp / +3.13 lb/ft.
EL Prototypes:
95.75 Hp / 98.82 lb/ft.
+3.02 Hp / +3.00 lb/ft.
This post is getting long so as soon as I get some questions and critiques I'll post the rest of the results.
First off before I go off on any information I would like to give major props out to
Chris and his Crew at HOOK-UPS Import Tek in Upland for helping me find out the truth. Without Chris's expertise on dyno testing and his calibrated DYNOJET none of this would be possible. He's very interested in helping out the Scion community so anyone needs anything please hit him up. He supported us and we should support him!!!!
Also props to:
Steve @ bBist.com for directing me to HOOK-UPS Import Tek. If you all don't know then check out the cool stuff that www.bBist.com offers.
Also to these people/companies for donating/lending intakes to the cause:
Dude w/ the AEM (Still in the box from the dealership)
The Crew @ Injen (Thought it was cool what I was doing even if it didn't favor them)
Eric @ E.L. Prototypes (Sorry about the last minute notice)
John @ SPFR (Has since taken the intake back for further inspection)***EDITED***
Anyways...here it goes.
Time:
Dec. 10th @ 12pm
Place:
HOOK UPS Import Tek
8455 Loma Place
Upland, CA. 91786
909-373-RACE
People working on it:
Chris running the dyno
Me (Scionic) doing the installs
Richard (aka CamoScion) doing the picture taking
Subject:
My Blue Onyx xB 5 speed w/ ~10K miles on it
Stock w/ the exception of a grounding kit by Happies (OG Scionlife member that has since gone AWOL)
Dyno:
3 month old DYNOJET that is well kept, well calibrated, well placed (towards the front of the shop and facing outward toward fresh cool air)
Method:
3 runs per intake with cool down intervals of 3 minutes
Doing a simple Baseline measuring the peak HP & lbs/ft @ the wheels
All intakes are brand new still in sealed package
Intakes: (in the order that they were tested)
1. Stock
2. AEM Cold Air
3. Injen Short Ram
4. SPFR Cold Air
5. EL Prototypes Cold Air
Results: (to make it fair I compared the first run results)
Stock:
92.73 Hp / 95.82 lb/ft.
AEM:
95.86 Hp / 99.09 lb/ft.
+3.13 Hp / +3.27 lb/ft
Injen:
96.80 Hp / 100.59 lb/ft.
+4.07 Hp / +4.77 lb/ft.
SPFR:
94.15 Hp / 98.95 lb/ft.
+1.42 Hp / +3.13 lb/ft.
EL Prototypes:
95.75 Hp / 98.82 lb/ft.
+3.02 Hp / +3.00 lb/ft.
This post is getting long so as soon as I get some questions and critiques I'll post the rest of the results.
Last edited by MR_LUV; 10-18-2021 at 05:35 PM. Reason: Awarded 15 Yr Badge
#4
SPFR charged you--an OG on here, as well as at the meets...not cool! Anyway...
They got it in the butt in the end...When eric said 20 hp--looks like he was about 19 horses too high on his estimate.
Injen it is, if you want to run an intake it seems.
Thanks alot bro for doing all this...there seems to be a bad case of recommending ____ just because you are buddy buddy with certain companies around here instead of recommending them because they are good products....you all know who you are.
They got it in the butt in the end...When eric said 20 hp--looks like he was about 19 horses too high on his estimate.
Injen it is, if you want to run an intake it seems.
Thanks alot bro for doing all this...there seems to be a bad case of recommending ____ just because you are buddy buddy with certain companies around here instead of recommending them because they are good products....you all know who you are.
#6
thanks alot for the intake shootout much props to you and everyone who helped settle this..
also, do you think you can post the dyno sheets? so we can see what was the hp thru out the entire RPM band.. if its possible if not its fine you've done alot already
also, do you think you can post the dyno sheets? so we can see what was the hp thru out the entire RPM band.. if its possible if not its fine you've done alot already
#7
hmmm thanks mark.
i actually was thinking about AEM but i expected
a lil more than ____ ___ for ponies.
i guess injen or EL is the best for the price.. BOTH under 200 bucks i believe..
and providing like 3-4 ponies to the WHEELS! not flywheels..
i think we should be careful on what we buy.
im sure the peeps who got SPFR must be ticked off
a lil cuz for the same price they could of had a superior product!
i would be ticked off. let us all have DYNO results or track results
or SOME KIND of concrete detail available before we do
recommending of products.. like.. OH YEA.. THIS IS GOOD and that is good..
i defiantly agree with jdmxb(not cuz he's my friend).. i just think
a forum is meant to LOOK OUT or help each other..
now if we all recommended the WRONG STUFF then we'd be
harming ourselves versus helping!
i actually was thinking about AEM but i expected
a lil more than ____ ___ for ponies.
i guess injen or EL is the best for the price.. BOTH under 200 bucks i believe..
and providing like 3-4 ponies to the WHEELS! not flywheels..
i think we should be careful on what we buy.
im sure the peeps who got SPFR must be ticked off
a lil cuz for the same price they could of had a superior product!
i would be ticked off. let us all have DYNO results or track results
or SOME KIND of concrete detail available before we do
recommending of products.. like.. OH YEA.. THIS IS GOOD and that is good..
i defiantly agree with jdmxb(not cuz he's my friend).. i just think
a forum is meant to LOOK OUT or help each other..
now if we all recommended the WRONG STUFF then we'd be
harming ourselves versus helping!
#8
all of this info without the graphs is a little useless really..
Who knows, at LOW rpm, maybe the SPFR intake gives the best gains...which is where you would really feel it...
at what RPM are these numbers taken from???
Who knows, at LOW rpm, maybe the SPFR intake gives the best gains...which is where you would really feel it...
at what RPM are these numbers taken from???
#10
Great post man...thank you sooooooo much....i was leaning towards getting the injen intake but i still had some doubts, but now i'm sold...thanks for providing us with some facts...keep up the great work man...thanks again
#11
Originally Posted by arinvolvo
all of this info without the graphs is a little useless really..
Who knows, at LOW rpm, maybe the SPFR intake gives the best gains...which is where you would really feel it...
at what RPM are these numbers taken from???
Who knows, at LOW rpm, maybe the SPFR intake gives the best gains...which is where you would really feel it...
at what RPM are these numbers taken from???
Do you really want to see an intake making .04 hp at 2krpm, and 1.4 at 5.5k?
The point is, that the numbers are the highest amount of hp/tq gained THROUGHOUT the powerband at ANY given point.
By your logic...the SPFR could make it's mighty 1.4hp at 3k, while the Injen/others make the 4hp at 5.5k...and you would still rock the SPFR????!
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alright, here's a question...
i remember there was a thread showing the dyno results of the SPFR exhaust and intake
based on these figures, are we able to extrapolate the intake hp numbers only? if so, it would appear that the intake makes close to four hp.
just wondering...there appear to be too many variances
i remember there was a thread showing the dyno results of the SPFR exhaust and intake
based on these figures, are we able to extrapolate the intake hp numbers only? if so, it would appear that the intake makes close to four hp.
just wondering...there appear to be too many variances
#15
hey i just noticed.. out of all the companies.. the one
that produced the LEAST amount of power MADE U PAY FOR IT!
ironic isn't it.. maybe it was their only way to TURN U away from
dynoing their product... but other companies were CONFIDENT
so they were like BRING IT! let the games begin
that produced the LEAST amount of power MADE U PAY FOR IT!
ironic isn't it.. maybe it was their only way to TURN U away from
dynoing their product... but other companies were CONFIDENT
so they were like BRING IT! let the games begin
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Originally Posted by arinvolvo
that sheet shows numbers for the intake AND exhaust...if i am reading correctly.
(intake and exhaust #) - (exhaust only #) = intake # Right?