Notices
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Suspension & Handling Coilovers, Shocks, Airbags, Swaybars...

Downgrading from Air to Springs.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-30-2006, 11:33 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default Downgrading from Air to Springs.

I am looking to take my air suspension off my car and just wanted to throw some drop springs for a daily comfy ride. I have 19x7 wheels with +45offset. I figured 1.5" would be a good enuf drop? What is everyone using and liking? Let me know! Thanks!

I'll be posting a thing later if anyone wants to buy my front air struts and valves later, or PM me for details!
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:30 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
BrianxB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: between DC and Baltimore
Posts: 1,489
Default

Tein S techs, TRD, Hotchkis. Top 3 choices if I were you.
BrianxB is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:40 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

Originally Posted by BrianxB
Tein S techs, TRD, Hotchkis. Top 3 choices if I were you.
hmmm ok. I will look into the Tein S Techs. Thanks
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:41 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
magicmanjk808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,109
Default

i had s techs and they were nice.

i just took out my air and am riding on tein basics....
magicmanjk808 is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:51 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Premium Member
 
Spider13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC (L.A.)
Posts: 1,881
Default

I helped a friend put on some tanabes df210s this weekend, they rode very nice.
Spider13 is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:58 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
hayalex6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 2,122
Default

That's funny. I'm going from springs to air while you're going opposite.
hayalex6 is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 01:03 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

Originally Posted by hayalex6
That's funny. I'm going from springs to air while you're going opposite.
im getting tired of my scion really. Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore. I can't sell it, so I am just gonna throw springs on it and leave it as a daily now. Gonna scrape my club logo and start working on my 2000 Tacoma now. I want to go extreme, and with the xB as my daily, I am not gonna shave, paint, and go all crazy with something that i drive daily.
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 01:07 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
cherryBox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ScinergyCO
Posts: 6,157
Default

df210's x2...

may i ask why you're lettin the air out?

(edit: uh, I guess that got answered before I could hit submit, huh?)
cherryBox is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 01:17 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
DeepSouth Scions
SL Member
 
superfreestyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 613
Default

sounds more like upgrading to me.... you will actually have a solid suspension carrying you!!! and if you later decide to go crazy with it, there is far more research and far better overall ride and performance without air..... air may be fun but if you look at it in a practical sense, air is one of the worst things you can spend your money on compared to full performance suspension......

anyway good choice man..... i have had df210's and now have the s-techs with Tokico HTS adjustables and you will be far more pleased with the s-techs
superfreestyle is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 01:39 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

Originally Posted by superfreestyle
sounds more like upgrading to me.... you will actually have a solid suspension carrying you!!! and if you later decide to go crazy with it, there is far more research and far better overall ride and performance without air..... air may be fun but if you look at it in a practical sense, air is one of the worst things you can spend your money on compared to full performance suspension......

anyway good choice man..... i have had df210's and now have the s-techs with Tokico HTS adjustables and you will be far more pleased with the s-techs
I am not looking for the best performance. Its a scion. haha. I prefer air. but since i want this is as a daily and not my show car anymore, I could care less. Air is the best thing to have in my book when it comes to all show and no go with me. If I wanted to spend my money on a full performance suspension, I wouldn't have boughten a scion in the first place, haha.

My air rode very nice actually. Once I changed the shocks in the rear of my car, it felt like a dream.
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 02:40 AM
  #11  
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
jct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,963
Default

Originally Posted by Sittin_Pretti_Box
Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore.
i so feel ya there i kind of feel like that about every once a 3-4 weeks

want a better car some times better as in older and a bigger engine and 3 spd auto it aint a ford or gm... amc would be nice
jct is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 03:59 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Rowdy_xB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 176
Default

I hear alot of good stuff about Goldlines (2" drop) too. I will be getting these once i get my box.
Rowdy_xB is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 04:58 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

Originally Posted by hornet_on_the_flower
Originally Posted by Sittin_Pretti_Box
Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore.
i so feel ya there i kind of feel like that about every once a 3-4 weeks

want a better car some times better as in older and a bigger engine and 3 spd auto it aint a ford or gm... amc would be nice
yeah i hear ya. i'm a minitrucker, so i can't do much else to this scion. I don't want to paint it or shave it.

I got a 2000 Tacoma that I got for free that needs to be fixed up. So I plan to get that running, bag it, body drop, shave, and paint. I want a truck i can lay out and drag and throw sparks. I just miss having a pick up.
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 02:42 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
LilBlkBox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 226
Default

I know how you feel. I wish I would have never gotten rid of my bagged s10. I am searching for a Taco to buy and go crazy with. Good luck.
LilBlkBox is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 06:04 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
RTon20s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,066
Default

To Sittin Pretti...

Go with the DF210s. I just installed a set on my wife's box last Friday and they ride great. She said the only time she could tell a difference was when rolling over speed bumps.

To Superfreestyle...

You are absolutely clueless. A properly engineered and implemented pneumatic suspension system can and will outperform anything else on the road. The problem is very few people look at pneumatic suspension that way. There are too may hacks out there today that treat it just like hydraulics. A simple method to raise and lower a car. And unfortunately none of the good air suspension companies have been willing to invest the time and money to develop a high end air suspension for this $15k box of ours.

When I finally get the money up to develop the custom air suspension on my wife's xB I will gladly put it up against any other suspension on the market.
RTon20s is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 06:15 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
TRDBox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 226
Default

^^^^woot woot
TRDBox is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 06:21 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

ok so I got 19x7 wheels. How much of a drop will I want? I saw that the one of the springs recommend has a 2" drop. Sounds good, but any worries about clearance with turning and such? Just let me know, thanks.
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 06:56 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
hayalex6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 2,122
Default

with 19's I'm betting that lowering 2" will make you rub unless you run camber or roll the fenders.

I'd go with something around a 1.25"-1.5" drop. Maybe the Tein H-techs, or Tanabe NF210's
hayalex6 is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 07:08 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Sittin_Pretti_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 475
Default

Originally Posted by hayalex6
with 19's I'm betting that lowering 2" will make you rub unless you run camber or roll the fenders.

I'd go with something around a 1.25"-1.5" drop. Maybe the Tein H-techs, or Tanabe NF210's
ok sounds good. i am going to a shop today to ask about springs. i think an 1.25" should be good. thanks.
Sittin_Pretti_Box is offline  
Old 05-01-2006, 08:00 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Club One

SL Member
 
dugzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,629
Default

Sittin_Pretti_Box I have the NF210's on my box and with the monroe struts, and koni shocks it rides great.
dugzilla is offline  


Quick Reply: Downgrading from Air to Springs.



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:43 PM.