OIL FILTER BASICS
04-25-2005, 10:46 PM
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This is a fascinating thread, really.
Here's a quick and dirty look inside some other oil filters, and while they are NOT for Scions, it is interesting to see the comparisons between brands that all look alike on the outside...
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html
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...and from another site, info about Toyota filters...
an a cut-away pic, too...
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Some interesting reading, too...
http://www.noria.com/learning_center...p=Lubrication2
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If I run into more elsewhere that have interesting pics and such, I'll put up links for them, too... :D
Here's a quick and dirty look inside some other oil filters, and while they are NOT for Scions, it is interesting to see the comparisons between brands that all look alike on the outside...
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html
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...and from another site, info about Toyota filters...
- Good oil filters don't always have to be big. Since the mid 80's or so, Toyota have been using a type of filter where the paper is packed in, in a different manner to the usual filter.They are able to pack in at least as much paper, and hence filtering area, as a normal filter, but in a package far smaller. The stock Toyota oil filters are used on many of their racing engines. So, even though they may cost a little more, they are the way to go if you have a Toyota or are able to use them.
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Some interesting reading, too...
http://www.noria.com/learning_center...p=Lubrication2
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If I run into more elsewhere that have interesting pics and such, I'll put up links for them, too... :D
04-26-2005, 12:50 AM
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Just ran into a good review of various filters (for Hondas, in this case, but the info is still good):
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
And also a filter review from the same source done about a year and a half earlier:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml
In the new filter review they also offer up some good links to OTHER reviews, by other people, for other engines.
Interesting reading.
BTW, Thanks for starting this off, Scott! We all learn something from things like this. (For example, I've used orange-colored spin-on oil filters since there have BEEN spin-on filters, but not anymore...There seem to be better choices out there.)
Hmmmmmm... just remembering my three MGs - they didn't use spin-ons, but the older style replacable cartridges and seals in a non-replacable housing that one cleaned each time. At least one got to look at both the new and old filters...
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
And also a filter review from the same source done about a year and a half earlier:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml
In the new filter review they also offer up some good links to OTHER reviews, by other people, for other engines.
Interesting reading.
BTW, Thanks for starting this off, Scott! We all learn something from things like this. (For example, I've used orange-colored spin-on oil filters since there have BEEN spin-on filters, but not anymore...There seem to be better choices out there.)
Hmmmmmm... just remembering my three MGs - they didn't use spin-ons, but the older style replacable cartridges and seals in a non-replacable housing that one cleaned each time. At least one got to look at both the new and old filters...
04-26-2005, 01:09 AM
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damn i just changed my oil today mobil 1 synthetic and 10.99 mobil 1 oil filter i used a mobil 1 filter before i should have sent it to you if you really want it ill get it tomorrow and send it to you?!?
04-26-2005, 07:53 PM
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Im putting a package together for Scott17 ... I am sending him a Mobil 1 Oil Filter, Mobil Conventional Oil Filter & and the 5 Micron RTI Engine Oil Flush Machine Filter. He will open then up and update the pics and info! Stay tuned!
04-26-2005, 08:20 PM
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There are several filter studies, including cut open photos, around the web. The latest one I've seen is at bobistheoilguy.com. Look under forums, oil filters. The Fram is now referred to as the "orange can of doom" on that forum. It's really crappy inside.
04-26-2005, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gfcrane
There are several filter studies, including cut open photos, around the web. The latest one I've seen is at bobistheoilguy.com. Look under forums, oil filters. The Fram is now referred to as the "orange can of doom" on that forum. It's really crappy inside.
04-26-2005, 09:04 PM
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Fram USED to be good...seems their quality control and attention to quality design has gone downhill in recent years. This is confirmed at numerous sites that have compared filters...
05-01-2005, 01:14 PM
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check this out this will give you a whole new outlook on filters....
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=6;t=000513
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=6;t=000513
05-01-2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LavaBox_v1
I work for an ExxonMobil distrubitor so I know all this info ...
There is no way they can filter down to 10 Microns ... I work with a company called RTI. They make the Engine flush machine that you see in a lot of dealership and quick lubes, the filter they use in the machines filters down to 5 Microns ... you should see how thick this filter is ...
There is no way they can filter down to 10 Microns ... I work with a company called RTI. They make the Engine flush machine that you see in a lot of dealership and quick lubes, the filter they use in the machines filters down to 5 Microns ... you should see how thick this filter is ...
Some AC Delco
Walmarts Brand (Super Tech)
AutoZone Value Craft
STP
Duetsch
Bosch
K&N
M1
Some Motorcraft..not sold to public
Toyota's is made by Denso..it was by Purolator previously
05-01-2005, 01:41 PM
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we all know honda's and toyotas usually last forever with just basic oil changes and such, my grand ma had a civic that she just had honda do all the oil changes on and it was mint at like 180k. I think OEM is best.
05-02-2005, 02:41 AM
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This thread deserves a STICKY!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
05-08-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UnFocused
This thread deserves a STICKY!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
Honda and GM also do this!
So really you are buying Mobil oil that has been tweaked to meet Toyota engine spec!
05-09-2005, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LavaBox_v1
Originally Posted by UnFocused
This thread deserves a STICKY!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
Honda and GM also do this!
So really you are buying Mobil oil that has been tweaked to meet Toyota engine spec!
05-09-2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciond
Originally Posted by LavaBox_v1
Originally Posted by UnFocused
This thread deserves a STICKY!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
good info, I figured if Toyota puts thier name on something- it has to be good!
thats why I have always stuck with Toyota oil and filter. I may start changing my oil every 5k instead if 2.5 k!
Honda and GM also do this!
So really you are buying Mobil oil that has been tweaked to meet Toyota engine spec!
05-09-2005, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by metro
has anyone have opinions or experiments with KN oil filters for Scion? I have a two year supply but am afraid to use them until more info is available.
