VSC/Trac Off/Check Engine Light came on
12-08-2006, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bBsactoguy
Honestly, I think this light comes on with those folks who have an intake. The sensor becomes dirty and you just need to clean it.
I had this problem back in summer time and I desperately searched the site for help.
Low n behold, all you need to buy is an electric contact cleaner. You can purchase it in your radio shack, FRy's, or tiger direct.. what ever is clever.
I sprayed the lil uvula looking object, and all that dirt came right off... good as new. Just to be safe I let it dry for like 10mins before putting it back into my intake...
Solved problem.. I think I made a thread of my journey of this hehe...
I had this problem back in summer time and I desperately searched the site for help.
Low n behold, all you need to buy is an electric contact cleaner. You can purchase it in your radio shack, FRy's, or tiger direct.. what ever is clever.
I sprayed the lil uvula looking object, and all that dirt came right off... good as new. Just to be safe I let it dry for like 10mins before putting it back into my intake...
Solved problem.. I think I made a thread of my journey of this hehe...
The original poster quoted the exact diagnostic code(s) that the engine threw, and what you describe, while it will pull the same three lights, is TOTALLY unrelated.
A dirty MAF sensor will not cause your camshaft timing to be retarded.
01-02-2007, 12:09 PM
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Any updates on this???
I just got all 3 lights last night coming off the highway I put the car into neutral (manual 06), the rpms dropped lower than idle but the car did not stall. Then all of a sudden all 3 lights came on.
Was gonna do the ecu reset but decided to take it to the dealership this morning.
$98 to check it
(Canadian dollars)
Will post the codes that they give me later.
It would be nice if people who have gotten the dealership to check to post the codes up or even what was fixed too
I just got all 3 lights last night coming off the highway I put the car into neutral (manual 06), the rpms dropped lower than idle but the car did not stall. Then all of a sudden all 3 lights came on.
Was gonna do the ecu reset but decided to take it to the dealership this morning.
$98 to check it
(Canadian dollars)Will post the codes that they give me later.
It would be nice if people who have gotten the dealership to check to post the codes up or even what was fixed too
01-02-2007, 03:53 PM
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Ok just got the xB back.
Only code they got was: P0012
Something to do with the camshaft (so similar to someone who posted in here earlier)
I asked them, what if it happens again since everything they checked seemed to be fine? Advisor was like, well just bring it back....well duh?
Ah well, she drives great still so until it happens again....
Only code they got was: P0012
Something to do with the camshaft (so similar to someone who posted in here earlier)
I asked them, what if it happens again since everything they checked seemed to be fine? Advisor was like, well just bring it back....well duh?
Ah well, she drives great still so until it happens again....
01-03-2007, 06:44 PM
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could be several things.. When you get a Check Engine light the ECU automatically(Always) disables the VSC and the Traction Control(Trac Off)... so no matter whats the problem, how small or how big if your CEL comes on you will automatically see the 2 other lights come on. atleast thats what my mechanic said
In my case it came on and it was a "Canister hose" that was loose.
In my case it came on and it was a "Canister hose" that was loose.
01-03-2007, 06:56 PM
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Ive had the same lights turn on twice. Both times the dealer said it was the MAF sensor that had gone bad. Weird.
The scary thing is driving the car to the dealer as it sputters along under 3000rpm
The scary thing is driving the car to the dealer as it sputters along under 3000rpm
01-03-2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Match_Box
could be several things.. When you get a Check Engine light the ECU automatically(Always) disables the VSC and the Traction Control(Trac Off)... so no matter whats the problem, how small or how big if your CEL comes on you will automatically see the 2 other lights come on. atleast thats what my mechanic said
In my case it came on and it was a "Canister hose" that was loose.
In my case it came on and it was a "Canister hose" that was loose.
01-20-2007, 06:20 PM
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I am a ASE Certified Technician and I brought my 06 xb with 35600 miles on it, 400 before its out of warrenty, brought it by one dealership and they cleared the lights and everything checked out fine and it came back on and I checked out the codes and it was P0012 Cam retard. I checked into the problem myself and talked to one of my friends who is a toyota/scion tech and he said this is a fairly common problem with all of the 1.5 VVTi engines. I hope scion plans to do something about it this so people that are out of warrenty get this fixed. From what I understand the timing gear drum needs to be replaced which means taking the gear off the cam. Alldata calls for 1.2 hours warrenty and 1.8 if it is out, so either way thats almost 200 dollars if you pay the regular 80-90 dollars an hour labor rate, PLUS the part which alldata lists for $150. I think someone should write a letter to scion about this.
02-04-2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nstygrnhatch
I am a ASE Certified Technician and I brought my 06 xb with 35600 miles on it, 400 before its out of warrenty, brought it by one dealership and they cleared the lights and everything checked out fine and it came back on and I checked out the codes and it was P0012 Cam retard. I checked into the problem myself and talked to one of my friends who is a toyota/scion tech and he said this is a fairly common problem with all of the 1.5 VVTi engines. I hope scion plans to do something about it this so people that are out of warrenty get this fixed. From what I understand the timing gear drum needs to be replaced which means taking the gear off the cam. Alldata calls for 1.2 hours warrenty and 1.8 if it is out, so either way thats almost 200 dollars if you pay the regular 80-90 dollars an hour labor rate, PLUS the part which alldata lists for $150. I think someone should write a letter to scion about this.
agreed.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=160105
02-04-2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by n7
this same thing just happened to me the day before yesterday. I'm going outside right now to take off my intake and then i'm taking it down to the dealership to get it checked out.
I did just put an intake on. I had the battery and MAF sensor disconnected and I had reconnected the battery b-4 reconnecting the MAF, so I thought that something there might have caused it. So I just reset the lights by disconnecting the battery for about thirty minutes or so.
Any way I’m curious as to why you would take the intake off b-4 going to the dealer.
Will they blame it on that and not do the warranty work? My intake has a CARB EO #. Figured that set me in the clear. Should I be removing mine as well b-4 oil changes at the dealer, or reporting any problems to them?
02-05-2007, 12:41 PM
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hmmm. a lot of people having problems. i've never had it and i drive my car decently hard. i'm at 55k or so and nothing yet. so out of regular warranty into my crappy extended warranty. this won't be a happy fix if i need to do it out of warranty.
money wise or elbow grease wise if i do it myself.
money wise or elbow grease wise if i do it myself.
02-05-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by j-rod
Originally Posted by n7
this same thing just happened to me the day before yesterday. I'm going outside right now to take off my intake and then i'm taking it down to the dealership to get it checked out.
I did just put an intake on. I had the battery and MAF sensor disconnected and I had reconnected the battery b-4 reconnecting the MAF, so I thought that something there might have caused it. So I just reset the lights by disconnecting the battery for about thirty minutes or so.
Any way I’m curious as to why you would take the intake off b-4 going to the dealer.
Will they blame it on that and not do the warranty work? My intake has a CARB EO #. Figured that set me in the clear. Should I be removing mine as well b-4 oil changes at the dealer, or reporting any problems to them?
02-05-2007, 04:34 PM
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Thanks darren, you're totally right.
for anyone who has had code p0012 throw - please sign this petition:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=160105
02-06-2007, 12:08 AM
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So I just had a Amp/Sub install done at circuit city, and as I they pull it out of the bay, the car stalled, with the VSC/Trac Off/Check Engine light on. The car idles very sparatically, and it starts to stall when you accelerate too hard. Any ideas what could have caused this. I am stuck at Circuit City right now. Any quick help would be appreciated.