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Old 02-28-2008, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default Backyard Brawler Kit.

BACKYARD BRAWLER KIT 1,999.99

For those looking for that "backyard" set-up. This is the kit for you.
Replaces the intercooler with water/methanol injection kit
Includes:
T3/38 log style manifold
2.5" shorty Downpipe/ bolts to factory s-pipe
Garrett T3/TO4E 50 trim .48ar turbo
Tial 38mm wastegate
Bosch blow off valve
3" intake pipe with K & N air filter
2.5" turbo outlet to throttle body piping
Vacuum block with fittings
Oil feed/drain lines
Installation hardware
Water/methanol injection kit

I went to turbotoyotas.com because alot of people said they have pretty good pricing for turbo kits. I checked them out and ran across this kit. I have a couple of questions. First off what is a log style manifold exactly. Also what are the disadvantages of having water/methanol injection kit instead of intercooler. Also has anyone bought this and have any ideas on the numbers it gets. And last question, is this kit WORTH it. If this has already been asked or posted im sorry. I looked but im also not the most intelligent person in the world. THanks
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:46 PM   #2
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The log manifold is similar to that of the zpi kits, the disadvangate go having watermeth cooling is that its not as good as front mount, its a spray that shoots into ur air intake system, u can set it to go off at any boost lvls to cool ur temps down, my friend has a watermeth setup in his GLI making 21 psi, it works well, but he also has a front mount. The backbrawler kit is awsome, im gona be grabbing one soon, u can get a frount mount urself off the internet cheap, and do the piping urself its really easy, all u need after would be some injectors a 3'' dp and a tune w/ a fic and ur set.
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TurboToyotas anything is worth it!

and i mean no offense to this but if you dont know what a log style manifold is you need to look into turbocharging a motor and turbo systems all together.. get the basics down, then look into your budget, then make your purchase based on your power goals and ammount your willing to spend to get there! good luck

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So its just a spray bro. So what your saying is that later I can buy an intercooler and run both. Ill take your word man. I think im gonna keep in touch with you. You sound like an intelligent guy. LOL. Ty for your input bro.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:06 AM   #5
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Your probably right. I just want some nut in my car.
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yeah man its all good. just read a little and youll be surprise how much you understand in a single day!
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So its just a spray bro. So what your saying is that later I can buy an intercooler and run both. Ill take your word man. I think im gonna keep in touch with you. You sound like an intelligent guy. LOL. Ty for your input bro.
Or you can get the TurboToyotas "Simple" kit which is around $400 more and is the same kit, yet comes with an intercooler. Thats what I would do, front mount is better...
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So its just a spray bro. So what your saying is that later I can buy an intercooler and run both. Ill take your word man. I think im gonna keep in touch with you. You sound like an intelligent guy. LOL. Ty for your input bro.
Its a great kit, looks like it performs better and is more reliable than the stage0 from zpi, and its cheaper and comes with a water meth?!? a rediculous bargain. And yeah running front mount and watermeth is awsome. win win situation.
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:19 PM   #9
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Yeah, you should ask Todd of TurboToyotas what sort of options he has for adding a FMIC to the brawler in the future.
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Yeah, you should ask Todd of TurboToyotas what sort of options he has for adding a FMIC to the brawler in the future.

If you want a Backyard Brawler kit from the start with an IC it would = the SIMPLE KIT

If you want to upgrade a Brawler kit in the future to an IC setup = easy

3 chargepipes and the IC.

Best of bothworlds...IC and water injection = really good things

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Hey bro that sounds good man. Just waiting on this check to go through and of course the approval of my fiance and hopefully I can get that brawler kit. Any clue on the hp it puts down to the wheels. Or how much power it gives to the crank.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:20 PM   #12
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Any clue on the hp it puts down to the wheels. Or how much power it gives to the crank.
If I made a post about what the kit did............it would turn into a big fiasco.

Lets just say it did between 260-315whp at 9spi with just water

The AIT's where SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But thats all I am going to say. Have to know when to keep my mouth shut.

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Any clue on the hp it puts down to the wheels. Or how much power it gives to the crank.
If I made a post about what the kit did............it would turn into a big fiasco.

Lets just say it did between 260-315whp at 9spi with just water

The AIT's where SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But thats all I am going to say. Have to know when to keep my mouth shut.

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Damn! Nice numbers...

Typically, how often would you have to refill the reservoir?
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Holy ****. Great numbers. Thats a bargain. Cant wait till the end of this month when the money is in. The cops will just love me then. LOL jk. Thats the greatest deal ive ever seen for the TC yet.
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Run an intercooler regardless of what kit or stage you buy. It helps more than you know.
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Run an intercooler regardless of what kit or stage you buy. It helps more than you know.
A very good point made by a guy who knows what he is taking about

Thanks Joe!!!

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Look at the scion community ..two companies always willing to help each other out. Awesome.
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Look at the scion community ..two companies always willing to help each other out. Awesome.
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Typically, how often would you have to refill the reservoir?
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Typically, how often would you have to refill the reservoir?
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