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Old 07-15-2009, 02:13 AM   #1
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Default Boosted TC nitrous question

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Greddy Turbo kit,Race clutch,Race Flywheel,Greddy E manage Ultimate,Tein Coil over suspension,HKS turbo timer, B&M,Sway Bars,AAM fuel rail

Is it safe to add nitrous to this setup 75-100 shot to this car. I will have the car in a week im new to the turbo scene. I want to cool the intake temps and gain some more power at the same time. I think there are two options for this alky and nitrous. I could be wrong thats why im asking. The turbo is as delivered 8.5 psi.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:15 AM   #2
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If you want to spray, spray your intercooler, not directly into your motor.
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I thought it was better to spray inside (nitrous) than outside (spray ic) when it comes to power gains. Am I missing something? Also I was told spraying the IC would not produce power gains. Is that true?
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Yea it is better for power to spay nitrous but you will blow your motor up really quick, you are already putting strain on it with the turbo setup.
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What you don't understand is that your motor cannot handle much more power without some serious upgrades. Yes, your motor will yield more power if you spray directly into your motor, but your motor will also pop like a fire cracker not after long. Spraying the intercooler will make your inlet temperatures noticeably lower, producing more power. I have heard it increases power about 30 whp+ from some WRX guys. I would say if you wanted to do nitrous, spray your intercooler. If you wanted to spray directly to your motor, I would tell you to think otherwise.

Personally, I'd say stay away from nitrous.
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What do you think the motor can take before motor upgrades are needed power wise? Is it topped out where it is now around 260HP or can it go up from there? How must boost can it take before motor upgrades are needed?
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To be conservative, I would have to say 325whp daily on 12psi tops. You don't want to go much higher than that if you want to keep your motor around for a little while. All this is with a near perfect tune I would have to say, ideal numbers.

Lose the nitrous idea, just up the boost and get a really really good tune.
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^agree......only way i would spray nitrous is on my intercooler......if you want to lower intake temps and get more power do water/meth......alot safer and better then nitrous......it allows you to run more timing without detonation.........the most important thing on a turbo car is the tune.........you can have the faster turbo tc alive but only be able to run it down the track once....
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^^ all very good input. 2 power adders makes tuning a beehotch. Spray on intercooler or do water/meth if you must but I would just up the boost if you're only at 8.5 psi.
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if ur gonna spray your intercool Ditch the nitrous and get a Cry02 kit... and u can also spray into your intake which will drop the temp levels and is 100X safer then nitrous
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what more than 360 ft lbs of torque do you want ? get an alky meth kit and make that torque with that kit. check out doddadys car, same set up.
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