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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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in my debates over what commuter to buy I went down to THREE scion dealers yesterday. Quite an experience. I'll start by saying none had a standard model so test drive was pretty much out (I have zero interest in an auto). The dealers were also disappointed when I said "Look, I want to test drive. If I like the way the car feels I'll work with you and wait till a camo standard comes available". It was very much a sell, now now. No one wanted to take that time to see if the car might be good for me... The one salesman from Power Toyota in Cerritos actually told me the car is for old ladies and my current car is much faster and I shouldn't be asking to test the power of the car, he then said go back and do some more research. I laughed and said "I have researched the car, however printed words don't tell me if the car is right for me." I just got the old we sell the most scions, people are putting down deposits, they are sold the moment we receive them, type comebacks.

So anyone wanna take me on a test drive in their xB I live in Whittier California heh..
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Yeah the Scion dealers think they have the upper hand with the fact that all their scions are pretty much pre-sold before they even arrive. The experience is even worse with the tCs. That part of the buying experience ____ed me off because the dealers were acting like they were doing US the favor. Like we should be kissing their asses to buy their cars.

They need to be trained by daewoo or kia, then they will learn the proper ettiquette of begging their customers to buy a car. The customer is always right! Thats the way it should be!
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Before I bought my xB I went to Power Cerritos 3 times, and all three times I left ____ed off. Call Longo, or Elmer or even Toyota of Long Beach ( I went to them all - mainly to test drive the box in different environments) The guys over at Cerritos tried to sell me a used xB with 12k miles on it for 18k. I repeatedly told him I wasn't interested and he literally argued with me about why not and why don't I just make an offer. I guess that whole no hassle idea doesn't apply over there.
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Power had literally ten dealers seething at the mouth waiting for people to step on the property. The one who jumped me waved my car in and then started asking me about trade ins.. Won't go back there
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I had a great experience with my dealer. They were very good with not pressuring me and understood my needs and time frame for purchase. However some salesmen lacked the inclination to try to sell me a car, that was dissapointing.
However i do echo the fact they had one manual on the lot. Its a fact that buying an auto with a 1.5 liter car is riddiculous. Its just no fun to drive.
They located a car for me and got what i wanted.

Performance Scion in Omaha, NE was awesome, talk to Mark Husar.
Come on out to Nebraska, the weathers fine.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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I bought Mine at Long Beach Toyota/ Scion and they were Cool, they had alot od Manuals and a decent selection, and no pressure to buy. This was my first Experience buying a New car and Im happy to say It was a good one. So cruze down and check it out

Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Performance Scion in Omaha, NE was awesome, talk to Mark Husar.

Come on out to Nebraska, the weathers fine.
Yeah... Nebraska in February. Been there, froze that.

Nice people though!
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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I am pretty loyal when it comes to purchases. If I like the product and the people selling that product I'll come back for more later. I think my car purchase should be no diffrent. This is something the owners and management of salesmen have to take the responsibility of. If I buy a car from a salesman he won't see me for a long time, if ever. He has not interest in me coming back and will want to get more money. If the experience is one where I am disatisfied I will never return to the lot. The management and owners suffer.

In short let me drive your cars and deceide that way.. Text on a website about storage capacity, MPG, and horsepower is not going to get me to buy. I feel for the salesmen, I am sure they get their share of people who they spend hours with for no profit, but when I am open on my expectations and requests and get denied I usually become bitter.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Man you all have some bad luck with dealers. I live in kentucky and I went to 3 different dealers (went to one dealer 2 times) and test drove the xB (5spd) right then and there.
Someone needs to B%$#H slap those dealers in Cali and show them whats up. Come on out to the Bluegrass and pick you one up. Good drive back to Cali to break it in.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Thats funny! I got my xB in El Paso, Tx. I was originally going to get a chrysler 300c but the sales person was an ahole. So I went to the toyota dealership. I filled out the paperwork that day. My sales person was pretty hot too(female) so it worked out real well. I didnt even test drive it. i had never seen one ever till I walked in. It took a few weeks for them to get the car i chose. I love my xB :D
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bbcrud
Originally Posted by ugly duck
Performance Scion in Omaha, NE was awesome, talk to Mark Husar.

Come on out to Nebraska, the weathers fine.
Yeah... Nebraska in February. Been there, froze that.

Nice people though!
If you dont like the weather stay awhile it'll change in 24 hours. Sad but true. And yes nice people.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Alot of people treat the xB as Form before Function.. People just walking up and ploping down money for something they know nothing baout because it is cool. I'm not one of those people.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HoshNasi
Alot of people treat the xB as Form before Function.. People just walking up and ploping down money for something they know nothing baout because it is cool. I'm not one of those people.
i feel you man. its true, the xB doesnt have too much power, but the gearing makes it peppy...what i do with salesmen i dont like is make sure to know more about the product than they do. ill go in and ask them questions they know nothing about, then after he cant answer them, ask him how you are supposed to be able to get an idea of how the car drives especially if he cant explain to you. ask about gearing and compression...they usually dont know that stuff and then after he is stumped, tell him you are going somewhere else
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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if you go to the tc general section and look up my "should I buy a tc3" we all seem to have that experience and I think it has alot to do with the no haggle pricing. Dealers have that take it or leave it attitude. Cali does sell more, but you can find them sitting on the lot in Las Vegas or Phoenix if you want to pay the $400 doc fee. Oops, I'm talking tc
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:11 AM
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The dealers in Houston, Texas are very kool. Some of them have around 15 xBs on their lots. I guess alot of the hillbillies down here with their monster trucks think the xB is "straaaaange" & they're not selling as well as in Cali.

I'll meet you at the airport. What flight are you going to be on? :D
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Maybe Scion Corp will get wind of how the Cali dealers are treating customers and take steps on retraining them to the Scion frame of mind. I can dream can't I. LOL
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:50 AM
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Dude, go to Longo, ask for Richard. He'll take good care of you.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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Go to another city or state and buy one... Out here in NC, the dealers work hard for you. Not many people know about these cars out here and you can find them pretty easy. There several available when I went to buy mine... but the TCM was not available and I had to wait a week.
Heck, I even got cruise control and mats thrown in for free... An easy, quick sale
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:35 AM
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LONGO SCION. Simply put, its the best scion and toyota dealer out there (over 30,000 sales in 2004) im not affialited, but i bought my box there, and their service is superb. I will referr them to anyone on this board.
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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I know you probally will hate to do this but be a no bull____ person and lay it out for the salesman. If he is a respectable person he will appreciate you honesty and straighforwardness.
-The dealership i bought mine from was like that at first. It was a different salesman though.
1. I told the salesman i didnt like him and to get someone else. He did and i was blunt and rude to the new guy (see how they like it) He new i was un happy with his dealership and he busted his ___ to make me happy.
2. I also told everyone else i spoke to there (ie sales manager, finance manager) how displeased i was with the previous salesman.
3. Things worked out well because i was an _______. So in short be an _______ and they will realize how it feels to be treated that way. And they wont do it again.



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