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Old 02-19-2005, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default Camshafts for the xB/xA

I got some word back today about cams for the xB/xA. Unfortuantely there will not be any production cams. You can though send your cams to Crower, and for $95 per cam they will regrind them for you:

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No new cores for that engine and no plans at this time.

Regrinds on your stock cams are available. Specs are typically 10-15 degrees
more duration and .010"-.015" more lift. HP gains are in the 5-15 range
depending on tuning. Rough idle is common if we exceed the above figures.

Cost is $95 per cam. Allow 1 week shop time + shipping. Send cores along
with detailed note stating engine model, intended application, power adders
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I have an extra 1nz that i will be taking the cams out and sending them to crower for the regrind. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Old 02-19-2005, 10:23 PM   #2
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ohhh 5-15 hp? NICE .Do they have any dyno sheets to back those claims?
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ohhh 5-15 hp? NICE .Do they have any dyno sheets to back those claims?
Considering no one has prob. sent their cams off to them for this application, i'm sure they don't. If you want a dyno it is up to the end user to dyno not the company. They are simply making statements from experience. Once i get the cams out of my extra engine i will send them out and have them regournd for a Supercharged application. Toyota wants 216 for the intake cam and 227 for the exhaust cam.

We'll see how it goes, for 95 bucks a cam though, it is a good deal especially if they are willing to grind them for a trubo/sc applications
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very nice deal

better than a 4k stroker kit
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What would be a good cam profile for a FI application? I wonder how much they would charge to re-grind some 1zz cams.
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very nice deal

better than a 4k stroker kit
Who has a stroker kit out for 4K? I am kinda interested in something like that...
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What would be a good cam profile for a FI application? I wonder how much they would charge to re-grind some 1zz cams.
Call or e-mail them. They may already make cams for the 1zz.

If they don't send your cams and tell them what application you want them for. They will then regrind them with the correct profile.
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better than a 4k stroker kit
Who has a stroker kit out for 4K? I am kinda interested in something like that...
nobody, its all custom work...
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Default Re: Camshafts for the xB/xA

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I got some word back today about cams for the xB/xA. Unfortuantely there will not be any production cams. You can though send your cams to Crower, and for $95 per cam they will regrind them for you:

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No new cores for that engine and no plans at this time.

Regrinds on your stock cams are available. Specs are typically 10-15 degrees
more duration and .010"-.015" more lift. HP gains are in the 5-15 range
depending on tuning. Rough idle is common if we exceed the above figures.

Cost is $95 per cam. Allow 1 week shop time + shipping. Send cores along
with detailed note stating engine model, intended application, power adders
(turbo, NOS, etc), rpm range to address below.

Thanks for your interest in Crower,

Crower Cams & Equipment Co Inc
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Phone: 619-661-6477
Fax: 619-661-6466
http://www.crower.com
I have an extra 1nz that i will be taking the cams out and sending them to crower for the regrind. I'll let you know how it goes.
good lookin out...
let me know how it works out....
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will keep everyone updated
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man i asked this a while back and i got no answer. i even made a thread on it. oh well

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maybe this should be a sticky until camshafts become widely available
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One can always go to the local Pick-N-Pull and get some used camshaft out of a wrecked Scion. I used to do that all of the time back in 1982-4 when I was experimenting w/ 20RCs. Good price on the grinds too!
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then we would have to sticky all parts threads, they might not be widely avail....

we will just need to keep this up on top how ever we can....
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i wonder if the cams in the used echo motor i picked up have a diff profile than the scion....
i know its the same engine code, but there could be changes to the cams....
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i wonder if the cams in the used echo motor i picked up have a diff profile than the scion....
i know its the same engine code, but there could be changes to the cams....
My sentiments exactly . Anyone got the specs from both so we can figure this out?
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i wonder if the cams in the used echo motor i picked up have a diff profile than the scion....
i know its the same engine code, but there could be changes to the cams....
Hmmmmm good thinking. I'll see if i can dig up some spec. sheets. Most manufacturers don't list cam duartion and lift though. We'll see what we can get.
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being that they have the same output, I highly doubt it.
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they could have diff profiles and produce the same power.
i am just wondering in case i send in some echo cams and say add 10 degrees duration when the scions already have the 10 degrees added. so i would have just spent 190 bucks to make scion cams that i already have....

i am not expecting them to be diff, just want to know for sure.
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