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Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts · 03-02-2005, 03:01 PM

The new TRD Brake Pads have just been released.

http://www.trdsparks.com/displaypart...1&parts_id=650

Ken
www.trdsparks.com

Beantowntc · 03-02-2005, 03:10 PM

This is a good thing. The more parts the better.tc needs some stainless steel brake lines now.

Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts · 03-02-2005, 03:18 PM

Agreed!

suby2scion · 03-02-2005, 03:20 PM

There's already ss lines out. maybe not by TRD, but very good nonetheless... Just go to stoptech brakes or another major brake supplier/manufacturer and find ss lines for a celica GTS (00-05)

Those TRD pads look nice... I like the price, but where are the rears? And how do these perform compared to AXXIS/ Hawks/ Panther plus, etc....

Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts · 03-02-2005, 03:30 PM

I wonder if we could get someone to buy all four sets, install them, and then do legitimate braking tests and get back to us with all of the comparable results. lol Sorry about that. Just in a mood today. All I can tell you is that the TRD's will improve your performance.

Ken

jmiller20874 · 03-02-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by suby2scion

There's already ss lines out. maybe not by TRD, but very good nonetheless... Just go to stoptech brakes or another major brake supplier/manufacturer and find ss lines for a celica GTS (00-05)

Those TRD pads look nice... I like the price, but where are the rears? And how do these perform compared to AXXIS/ Hawks/ Panther plus, etc....

Have you used the Celica's SS brake lines? IMO The rears aren't that necessary, they're non-driving wheels and under load, all the weight is transferred up front, hence the near-total absence of brake dust on the rear wheels.

Does TRD make a big brake kit? For Celica maybe?

b_griggs1 · 03-02-2005, 04:02 PM

TRD does make a big brake kit for the celica gts. i believe it is $1700. it seems that TRD would have a pad for the GTS by now. and would just sell the same one for the tc.

suby2scion · 03-02-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jmiller20874

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Originally Posted by suby2scion

There's already ss lines out. maybe not by TRD, but very good nonetheless... Just go to stoptech brakes or another major brake supplier/manufacturer and find ss lines for a celica GTS (00-05)

Those TRD pads look nice... I like the price, but where are the rears? And how do these perform compared to AXXIS/ Hawks/ Panther plus, etc....

Have you used the Celica's SS brake lines? IMO The rears aren't that necessary, they're non-driving wheels and under load, all the weight is transferred up front, hence the near-total absence of brake dust on the rear wheels.

Does TRD make a big brake kit? For Celica maybe?

Nope...but I had ss lines all aorund on my WRX. Can't say if there was a difference between front and rears since they were all installad at the same time but if I was going to do them, I would just do all 4 at once. It's not that much more $$.

jmiller20874 · 03-02-2005, 04:11 PM

With AWD, I definitely would do all four. Do SS lines improve the pedal feel that much? I'd like to get some but I don't want to do it if it's not that big a difference. I mean I'm not AutoX'ing here, but I'm a daily stop-and-go driver and if they'd improve braking that much then I might consider them.

therotman · 03-02-2005, 04:22 PM

Call me crazy, but I see no difference in braking depending on whether your car is FWD, RWD, or AWD.

Well, unless you are giving the car gas and braking at the same time- if so I suggest counseling

I would be interested to see how much of an improvement the new brakes give you before shelling out $ for it. If it does improve the brake feel or stopping difference I would be very interested as that is something our cars could use some help with.

nero_tC · 03-02-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by therotman

I would be interested to see how much of an improvement the new brakes give you before shelling out $ for it. If it does improve the brake feel or stopping difference I would be very interested as that is something our cars could use some help with.

same here.

Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts · 03-02-2005, 05:22 PM

The only current real world test that I have personal contact with, was on an MR2 and the hard braking driver got a 20% improvement in his brake pad life using the TRD's. These pads will be there when your originals are worn out and then you'll have at least two choices. The real test will be using these TRD's as the first replacement for your originals and letting everyone know how much of a change you got. FYI, the TRD Pads sell for less than the original equipment. Might be a real bargain.

Ken

suby2scion · 03-02-2005, 05:39 PM

SS lines do improve the feel for sure. It's much firmer. The tC's brakes are too soft for me, though I'm coming from a modified WRX so I was used to pretty aggressive brakes.

I did ss lines, new pads, better fluid and that was a great improvemet. I'm sure it will be the same for the tC. I eventually upgraded front and rear rotors as well, though that was more for looks than anything.

Under $40 for TRD pads isn't bad at all! escpecially since all the others I looked at were more than $75. hey look at all the folks spending more than $50 on stuff like tailight overlays or neon lights. At least this will be (hopefully) an improvement in performance.

hey Ken...do you accept the Toyota $50 gift certificate? if so, that's where my $$$ going!

Also..I see TRD pads come in both HP and HP-Z. Do you have both available?

jmiller20874 · 03-02-2005, 05:56 PM

Cool, then I'll definitely have to add SS lines to my list. Just wondering if the Celica's are an exact fit. Hell since I'll have the brake system apart, might as well paint the caliper's too.

Therotman, just my theory since in a FWD car all your driving momemtum is in the front wheels, so naturally you'd need more firmer brakes to slow the mechanics driving the wheels also. The rear wheels aren't connected to anything other than the hub, less weight to slow down. In AWD and RWD, the driving mechanics are attached to the rear wheels, so there's is much more mechanical momemtum to slow down, so larger brakes are needed at the rear in addition to the front brakes. Large front brakes are beneficial to all drivetrains due to the weight transfer upon braking.

This is just my theory (opinion) so no need to flame me if anyone disagrees.

therotman · 03-02-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparks Scion TRD Parts

The only current real world test that I have personal contact with, was on an MR2 and the hard braking driver got a 20% improvement in his brake pad life using the TRD's. These pads will be there when your originals are worn out and then you'll have at least two choices. The real test will be using these TRD's as the first replacement for your originals and letting everyone know how much of a change you got. FYI, the TRD Pads sell for less than the original equipment. Might be a real bargain.

Ken

So are the scion ones made the same way as the MR2 pads? what was 20% better? stopping differnece? fade? feel?

Stoptech · 03-02-2005, 10:47 PM

You guys may want to consider these high performance street pads.

63-223-0817 Front Axxis Ultimate pads for Scion Tc $47.95
63-223-0835 Rear Axxis Ultimate pads for Scion Tc $41.95

High max MOT. high co-efficient of friction make them a great street performance pad.

suby2scion · 03-03-2005, 03:21 AM

Axxis Ultimates are great!...had 'em on the old car. But man, they dusted like hell!

Plus I can't use my $50 gc towards them!!

UCSDPinoy · 03-03-2005, 04:42 AM

HmMm TRD or Axxis HmMmM

maximus96 · 03-03-2005, 05:55 AM

i have raybesto ceramics on my maxima and these dust very little compared to the stock nissan ones i had. i also had SS lines on the maxima but didn't feel much of a difference considering they were close to $100 for the set. this made me doubt whether SS line for the tc will make any difference, especially since the stock ones are still pretty new and no where near worn. i doubt they will expand that much.

TougetC · 03-03-2005, 11:15 AM

for those of my bretheren in the SoCal area. all u gotta do is take off the stock tC brake lines. drive to Earls in Hawthorne, and they'll make a SS set for you right then and there, just like OEM. no celica guesswork. and Earls is the best. oh and as for brake pads, im not sure if the have em for the tC yet, but ive found that Hawk pads are great and very affordable. bleh, im done.