Coils vs Springs for Rims?
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Coils vs Springs for Rims?
I had my xB for a year and a half now. I have money saved up. I wanna get sick rims.
Should I do coils or springs. all opinions needed/ help.
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Should I do coils or springs. all opinions needed/ help.
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Last edited by MR_LUV; Aug 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Awarded 5 Yr Badge
I have 16" konig backbones that I stripped and painted.
The hotchkis springs are GREAT, just about perfect ride height for dd ( I RARELY scrape on anything) and give a great improvement in handling. Unfortunately no one makes, nor are they going to make a 3 way adjustable shock/strut for our cars. That is why I am getting the Ksports.
Here is my car on the hotchkis springs:
You should talk to Cionide about offset and poke, he will get you set up perfectly.
The hotchkis springs are GREAT, just about perfect ride height for dd ( I RARELY scrape on anything) and give a great improvement in handling. Unfortunately no one makes, nor are they going to make a 3 way adjustable shock/strut for our cars. That is why I am getting the Ksports.
Here is my car on the hotchkis springs:
You should talk to Cionide about offset and poke, he will get you set up perfectly.
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Yep. I like my KSports, but I'd still go BC Racing if I had to purchase new. But that's me.
My thread with my fitment and stuff:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=207760
I have more pictures, but I have processing to do.
Also, depending on the offset, 18x9's should be easy to do. You'll have to roll the rear fenders and flip the front fender liners inside the fender lip.
My thread with my fitment and stuff:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=207760
I have more pictures, but I have processing to do.
Also, depending on the offset, 18x9's should be easy to do. You'll have to roll the rear fenders and flip the front fender liners inside the fender lip.
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Depending on how low you go, you'll probably rub the front fender liners a little.
Also, depending on how low you go and tire size, you may have to roll the rears a little bit just to not chew tires. Not a big deal at all. I'm sure there's someone in your area that can do it.
I ran my TRD 19's (19x8 +48mm) with 235/35R19's prior to my Rotiform setup. I had to roll my fenders just to flatten the lip, no pull. There's a spot on the rear by the bumper mount I had to flatten out and also the spot by the rear doors and 'dog leg' that is thicker than the rest of the lip.
Also, depending on how low you go and tire size, you may have to roll the rears a little bit just to not chew tires. Not a big deal at all. I'm sure there's someone in your area that can do it.
I ran my TRD 19's (19x8 +48mm) with 235/35R19's prior to my Rotiform setup. I had to roll my fenders just to flatten the lip, no pull. There's a spot on the rear by the bumper mount I had to flatten out and also the spot by the rear doors and 'dog leg' that is thicker than the rest of the lip.
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BC seems to really cater to the scene and will hook you up with higher spring rates and valving, free of charge. They don't even charge for their 'extreme drop' setup, which is shorter springs and inserts.
They're really good for the money. I haven't rode in anything with BC's yet, but there's some Mazdaspeed3 guys out here that run them and love them.
They're really good for the money. I haven't rode in anything with BC's yet, but there's some Mazdaspeed3 guys out here that run them and love them.
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I have 16" konig backbones that I stripped and painted.
The hotchkis springs are GREAT, just about perfect ride height for dd ( I RARELY scrape on anything) and give a great improvement in handling. Unfortunately no one makes, nor are they going to make a 3 way adjustable shock/strut for our cars. That is why I am getting the Ksports.
Here is my car on the hotchkis springs:
You should talk to Cionide about offset and poke, he will get you set up perfectly.
The hotchkis springs are GREAT, just about perfect ride height for dd ( I RARELY scrape on anything) and give a great improvement in handling. Unfortunately no one makes, nor are they going to make a 3 way adjustable shock/strut for our cars. That is why I am getting the Ksports.
Here is my car on the hotchkis springs:
You should talk to Cionide about offset and poke, he will get you set up perfectly.
We need to start a photography thread... I need all the help I can get.
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BC seems to really cater to the scene and will hook you up with higher spring rates and valving, free of charge. They don't even charge for their 'extreme drop' setup, which is shorter springs and inserts.
They're really good for the money. I haven't rode in anything with BC's yet, but there's some Mazdaspeed3 guys out here that run them and love them.
They're really good for the money. I haven't rode in anything with BC's yet, but there's some Mazdaspeed3 guys out here that run them and love them.
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Look into the Swift brand coilover springs for shorter springs. I know that's the route i'd go.
Could even up the spring rate a tad, which is what I would do.
Next time you have wheels off, snap some pictures of those warlocks. I'm curious what they look like and stack up in comparision to other brands.
Could even up the spring rate a tad, which is what I would do.
Next time you have wheels off, snap some pictures of those warlocks. I'm curious what they look like and stack up in comparision to other brands.
So the Ksports ride rough, or are the spring rates NOT stiff enough for you?
Compared to the hotchkis springs+sways/oem struts, would you say its much stiffer (15%,25%,45%, etc)?
The current sale on Ksports is VERY difficult to pass up..
Compared to the hotchkis springs+sways/oem struts, would you say its much stiffer (15%,25%,45%, etc)?
The current sale on Ksports is VERY difficult to pass up..
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Honestly hard to say, numerically. The dampening is adjustable, so it's all subjective. Being more into stance, I want the ride stiffer so I don't fudge up fenders. That's the only reason I want a higher spring rate. Well, that and you can use a higher spring rate with the Swifts because they don't get stiffer with more compression.
I have mine set pretty stiff, but can still go stiffer. I like the ride better than the Hotckis, this is even prior to my current wheel set up.
You'll be happy with the KSports. I'm just one that has to tweak everything, can't leave anything well enough alone.
I have mine set pretty stiff, but can still go stiffer. I like the ride better than the Hotckis, this is even prior to my current wheel set up.
You'll be happy with the KSports. I'm just one that has to tweak everything, can't leave anything well enough alone.