Whats the XB's biggest flaw??
I know most of us here are scion fanatics (including myself)... we think xb are pretty darn cool in most ways... but nothings perfect, and ther is always room for inprovement.
So, what do yall think the scion's biggest flaw is?
--> Horsepower/ Torque (powertrain)
--> Dimentions
--> Availablity
--> More options.... cruise, sunroof?
--> Value of accessories
--> design (aerodynamics)
--> interior design... controls, seats
--> true pricing
--> lack of finacial incentives... rebates, low apr
--> any other specs
As for me... the horse power is nothing spectacular but with a couple typical additons (CIA, headers, exhaust) it is tolerable... but more importantly it feels narrow inside when my friend and I hop in... seems like shoulder room is a bit lacking but no enough to warrant me cancelling my RS1 order. Just venting a bit... wanted to know if i was the only one.
So, what do yall think the scion's biggest flaw is?
--> Horsepower/ Torque (powertrain)
--> Dimentions
--> Availablity
--> More options.... cruise, sunroof?
--> Value of accessories
--> design (aerodynamics)
--> interior design... controls, seats
--> true pricing
--> lack of finacial incentives... rebates, low apr
--> any other specs
As for me... the horse power is nothing spectacular but with a couple typical additons (CIA, headers, exhaust) it is tolerable... but more importantly it feels narrow inside when my friend and I hop in... seems like shoulder room is a bit lacking but no enough to warrant me cancelling my RS1 order. Just venting a bit... wanted to know if i was the only one.
Well I have the sunrofof option available through my dealer, and I'm not getting this for speed (but 150hp would have been better) the price is awsome, but I could always use more money in my pocket, so I'll say bring on the rebates!
First would be the damned 4roof, they need to make it so that water doesn't poor into the car everytime you open the door when it's raining (IE - everyday here in FL).
Second would be the cheap-___ dash material. I've already gotten a scratch on the plastic glovebox.
Third - THEY NEED BLACK WHEEL WELLS!!! If you look at the car from the side, the friggen wheel wells are the same color as your paint!!!! For my next DIY writeup (which will be tomorrow), I'm going to paint the wheel wells.
Second would be the cheap-___ dash material. I've already gotten a scratch on the plastic glovebox.
Third - THEY NEED BLACK WHEEL WELLS!!! If you look at the car from the side, the friggen wheel wells are the same color as your paint!!!! For my next DIY writeup (which will be tomorrow), I'm going to paint the wheel wells.
Not complaining, digging the Box over what I would have bought if the xB was not available (Toyota Echo) for the same price range.
1. More torque (hhhmmm the 1ZZ-FE would be nice)
2. High Speed= High Revving engine. 70MPH @3KRPM
, my former '01 Camry: 70MPH@~1600RPM (i think)
3. That rumble. Too loud for such a slow car. Then again, I play my tunes a tad over the decibel of the muffler.
4. Wider tires... tune the speedo from the factory to take 205/65/15 stock.
5. Move the driver seat 3-4" back.
6. Full flat folding with hooks rear seat, like the matrix.
1. More torque (hhhmmm the 1ZZ-FE would be nice)
2. High Speed= High Revving engine. 70MPH @3KRPM
3. That rumble. Too loud for such a slow car. Then again, I play my tunes a tad over the decibel of the muffler.
4. Wider tires... tune the speedo from the factory to take 205/65/15 stock.
5. Move the driver seat 3-4" back.
6. Full flat folding with hooks rear seat, like the matrix.
Flaw?Only one comes to mind....
(my pet issue)
Too much leg room in the back seat (at the expense of cargo room behind the seat). I only wish the rear bench was on sliders so I could alternate between lots of passenger space and lots of luggage.
Everyone gripes about power, but more power = bigger tranny + bigger clutch + bigger halfshafts + bigger gas tank which equals more weight, which then requires bigger brakes and a stronger, heavier unibody which requires more power which etc, etc, etc, etc..........
Catch my drift? :twisted:
Look at it this way: The xB has about the same power/weight ratio as the much-respected 2nd gen VW GTI.
rear seats suck ___..... its so vertical it hurts every passenger i ever have in my car.
everyone complains.
just 1 degree adjustment would mend this error.
and window chips..
and all the rattling all over..
everyone complains.
just 1 degree adjustment would mend this error.
and window chips..
and all the rattling all over..
My only real complaints so far are on the tranny, mainly Shifter and clutch and final gear ratio. Too spongy and the shifts are not solid. Then @ 70 mph it's like your ready to shift into 5th, but suprise, you're already IN 5th.
More low end torque.
An automatic washing and polishing machine should come std with the cherry. My wife washes that thing everyday. With the money she's spending on washing it, I'm losing the money we save in mpg!
More low end torque.
An automatic washing and polishing machine should come std with the cherry. My wife washes that thing everyday. With the money she's spending on washing it, I'm losing the money we save in mpg!






