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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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Default Whats the XB's biggest flaw??

I know most of us here are scion fanatics (including myself)... we think xb are pretty darn cool in most ways... but nothings perfect, and ther is always room for inprovement.

So, what do yall think the scion's biggest flaw is?

--> Horsepower/ Torque (powertrain)
--> Dimentions
--> Availablity
--> More options.... cruise, sunroof?
--> Value of accessories
--> design (aerodynamics)
--> interior design... controls, seats
--> true pricing
--> lack of finacial incentives... rebates, low apr
--> any other specs

As for me... the horse power is nothing spectacular but with a couple typical additons (CIA, headers, exhaust) it is tolerable... but more importantly it feels narrow inside when my friend and I hop in... seems like shoulder room is a bit lacking but no enough to warrant me cancelling my RS1 order. Just venting a bit... wanted to know if i was the only one.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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IMO ... the fact it aint here yet.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Horsepower :twisted: :twisted:
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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Well I have the sunrofof option available through my dealer, and I'm not getting this for speed (but 150hp would have been better) the price is awsome, but I could always use more money in my pocket, so I'll say bring on the rebates!
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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horsepower and window rock chip
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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HP, arm rest and cruise control
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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Volume adjust buttons should be a ****, the seats should be tilted back a bit, the texture of the interior plastic should be changed,
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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ARM REST
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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i own an xa, and i'd say its flaw is that it doesn't come with keyless entry like almost all of the toyota cars.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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First would be the damned 4roof, they need to make it so that water doesn't poor into the car everytime you open the door when it's raining (IE - everyday here in FL).

Second would be the cheap-___ dash material. I've already gotten a scratch on the plastic glovebox.

Third - THEY NEED BLACK WHEEL WELLS!!! If you look at the car from the side, the friggen wheel wells are the same color as your paint!!!! For my next DIY writeup (which will be tomorrow), I'm going to paint the wheel wells.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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no sunroof option and no boost!! i would of paid another grand each for those two options!!
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 03:31 AM
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Not complaining, digging the Box over what I would have bought if the xB was not available (Toyota Echo) for the same price range.

1. More torque (hhhmmm the 1ZZ-FE would be nice)
2. High Speed= High Revving engine. 70MPH @3KRPM , my former '01 Camry: 70MPH@~1600RPM (i think)
3. That rumble. Too loud for such a slow car. Then again, I play my tunes a tad over the decibel of the muffler.
4. Wider tires... tune the speedo from the factory to take 205/65/15 stock.
5. Move the driver seat 3-4" back.
6. Full flat folding with hooks rear seat, like the matrix.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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ARMREST
no vanity mirror
hp i knew about that getting into it
lack of accesories
overpricing on accesories for scion
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 04:14 AM
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Flaw?

Only one comes to mind....

(my pet issue)

Too much leg room in the back seat (at the expense of cargo room behind the seat). I only wish the rear bench was on sliders so I could alternate between lots of passenger space and lots of luggage.

Everyone gripes about power, but more power = bigger tranny + bigger clutch + bigger halfshafts + bigger gas tank which equals more weight, which then requires bigger brakes and a stronger, heavier unibody which requires more power which etc, etc, etc, etc..........

Catch my drift? :twisted:

Look at it this way: The xB has about the same power/weight ratio as the much-respected 2nd gen VW GTI.
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arm rest.

and a real cargo cover.

more driver seat adjustability..

I like the MPG, so hp isn't really a factor
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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I agree on the width of it, my girl and I are almost as cramped as we are in our Eclipse convert.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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The car has no flaws, it just attracts flaws.

Beware of scratches
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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rear seats suck ___..... its so vertical it hurts every passenger i ever have in my car.
everyone complains.
just 1 degree adjustment would mend this error.

and window chips..

and all the rattling all over..
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jonbee
no sunroof option and no boost!! i would of paid another grand each for those two options!!
what u mean no sunroof....my xb has a sunroof.....
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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My only real complaints so far are on the tranny, mainly Shifter and clutch and final gear ratio. Too spongy and the shifts are not solid. Then @ 70 mph it's like your ready to shift into 5th, but suprise, you're already IN 5th.

More low end torque.

An automatic washing and polishing machine should come std with the cherry. My wife washes that thing everyday. With the money she's spending on washing it, I'm losing the money we save in mpg!



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