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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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ok, i bought intake and exhaust,.now.. what next? headers or underdrive pulley? which is more hp?(keep in mind, im an automatic) but, which is more bang for the buck.. what do you recommend?

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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i'm gona say the underdrive crank pulley will be more hp per $
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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header. imo
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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from what i have read you would get 1 or 2 more hp from the header but doing the crank pulley will cost half as much as the header
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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The header for a fact will net the largest gains. The pulley would be a great upgrade for the future... if you can choose only one for now... definitly the header man!
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Go with the header
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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sounds like headers are the best bet..
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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definitely pulley.....half as much as a header, and if zpi (although its not underdrive like you're looking for) ever gets theirs back in stock, they're bringin 11 hp and 18 tq. header can prolly match the hp, but i highly doubt a header can get 18 lb-ft of tq.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Header ! pulley should be right after I/H/E

Go with the header !
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Unless you can pull a few grand out of your pocket to repair the problems that could occur from removing the dampered oem pulley, I'd suggest going with the header.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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header! MMW or Strup - My strup header is on its way!
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strup header baby!
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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If you dont have that much money go with the pulley, it will give some hp and you will feel it from the moment you step on it.Unlike the header you start to feel the diff. in a couple of days, but if you have the money to buy the header buy it, it will give you more hp than anyother mod.(except for high com. pistons or the camcon)
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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the pulley wont give you ____ if the car cant breath mang
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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They are both good ideas. Most headers will net you similar power gains as an underdrive pulley actually. The major difference is that the header will add to your peak horsepower number while the underdrive crank pulley will get you a bit of improvement along your entire power band. There is one area where the header wins, on the butt and ear dyno! The header changes your car's tone and will make you think you are getting better results than you actually are getting!
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
Unless you can pull a few grand out of your pocket to repair the problems that could occur from removing the dampered oem pulley, I'd suggest going with the header.
Oh no, not another one of these comments. As of now, there is no evidence that the lightened pullies have any ill effects on the tC's engine.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Oh no, not another one of these comments. As of now, there is no evidence that the lightened pullies have any ill effects on the tC's engine.
If my comments can stop some 17 year old kid living with his parents from racking up a bill for $4,000 for parts/labor on a new engine, then I'll make them in every one of these threads that come up. Putting an undampened pulley on a car that needs one is a ____ing stupid thing to do. Risking engine life for a ____ant little 10 horsepower isn't worth it.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
Oh no, not another one of these comments. As of now, there is no evidence that the lightened pullies have any ill effects on the tC's engine.
If my comments can stop some 17 year old kid living with his parents from racking up a bill for $4,000 for parts/labor on a new engine, then I'll make them in every one of these threads that come up. Putting an undampened pulley on a car that needs one is a flippin' stupid thing to do. Risking engine life for a ____ant little 10 horsepower isn't worth it.
i appreciate any and all comments. i chech up on everything everyone says and i love second opinions..
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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For some information regarding what has happened to some of the pulley owners around here after a few thousand miles, please read this thread...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=122725

You may also want to check out this thread for some fun information...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=124732

Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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Strup header!



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