Clutch Bypass for Remote Start
12-02-2004, 01:13 AM
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Clutch Bypass for Remote Start
If youre adding remote start to an xB you will obviously have to bypass the clutch so it will start. The advantage to wiring it this way is that if you ever give someone your keys to take your car for any reason, they still have to push in the clutch to start the car. This is how Ive wired it in my xB.
You will need a Bosch style relay (SPDT) and some extra wire/connectors to wire this to your remote start.
The clutch switch has two wires leading to it and is located near the bottom of the clutch pedal assembly. When the pinswitch is depressed, the two wires create a circuit that sends a signal to the starter to start the car. What you have to do is "fool" the car into thinking that the pedal is down and complete the circuit.
Wiring:
Terminal ----> Where the wire goes
86 ------> constant 12v = battery
85 ------> ground wire from remote start while its engaged. On DEI systems this wire is usually reffered to as the status output wire.
30 ------> one of the two clutch switch wires
87 ------> the other clutch switch wire
Do not cut off the clutch switch, simply tap the wires from 30 and 87 onto them and solder them into place. Now when the remote start is activated it will complete the circuit and start the car. When starting the car with the key you will still have to push in the clutch to start it.
note- I tried just pulsing ground to one side of the switch and it quickly blew a fuse under the hood. this is why I wired it this way.
You will need a Bosch style relay (SPDT) and some extra wire/connectors to wire this to your remote start.
The clutch switch has two wires leading to it and is located near the bottom of the clutch pedal assembly. When the pinswitch is depressed, the two wires create a circuit that sends a signal to the starter to start the car. What you have to do is "fool" the car into thinking that the pedal is down and complete the circuit.
Wiring:
Terminal ----> Where the wire goes
86 ------> constant 12v = battery
85 ------> ground wire from remote start while its engaged. On DEI systems this wire is usually reffered to as the status output wire.
30 ------> one of the two clutch switch wires
87 ------> the other clutch switch wire
Do not cut off the clutch switch, simply tap the wires from 30 and 87 onto them and solder them into place. Now when the remote start is activated it will complete the circuit and start the car. When starting the car with the key you will still have to push in the clutch to start it.
note- I tried just pulsing ground to one side of the switch and it quickly blew a fuse under the hood. this is why I wired it this way.
12-02-2004, 01:54 AM
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thats why i don't remote start, if i even think somebody went into my car.
there is a new paice that can be put in. you press a button, then start the car.
turn the car off, open the door, exit, close door.
now if the door is opened again the car will not remote start.
that way if your girl goes to get her bag from the car and puts the car in gear (accidentaly of course) the car will not remote start again because the door was opened.
kinda hard to explain, but it works for those who are worried about things like this.
there is a new paice that can be put in. you press a button, then start the car.
turn the car off, open the door, exit, close door.
now if the door is opened again the car will not remote start.
that way if your girl goes to get her bag from the car and puts the car in gear (accidentaly of course) the car will not remote start again because the door was opened.
kinda hard to explain, but it works for those who are worried about things like this.
12-02-2004, 11:09 PM
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There is an easier way to bypass clutch.
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
12-04-2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by teampirate
There is an easier way to bypass clutch.
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
12-05-2004, 03:30 AM
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I did remote starts on my 95 ford ranger 5-speed and my 2002 ford explorer sport trac 5-speed. first I ran the remote starter start wire directly to the starter. next made a shut-down saftey so if the vehicle is in any gear but neutral, the remote start won't work. this eliminates the guessing and I can remote start the vehicle without worries.
12-12-2004, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by teampirate
There is an easier way to bypass clutch.
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
12-12-2004, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by scionspecialistvegas
Originally Posted by teampirate
There is an easier way to bypass clutch.
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
12-16-2004, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by teampirate
There is an easier way to bypass clutch.
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
The small white plug at the base has a black wire and a black/yellow wire.
The black/yellow is the only one you need.
black/yellow needs 12 volts to crank starter
From the remote starter use the starter wire and connect it to the black/yellow wire.
(do not connect the start wire at the ignition switch)
much easier than a relay
01-03-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dgHotLava
thats why i don't remote start, if i even think somebody went into my car.
there is a new paice that can be put in. you press a button, then start the car.
turn the car off, open the door, exit, close door.
now if the door is opened again the car will not remote start.
that way if your girl goes to get her bag from the car and puts the car in gear (accidentaly of course) the car will not remote start again because the door was opened.
kinda hard to explain, but it works for those who are worried about things like this.
there is a new paice that can be put in. you press a button, then start the car.
turn the car off, open the door, exit, close door.
now if the door is opened again the car will not remote start.
that way if your girl goes to get her bag from the car and puts the car in gear (accidentaly of course) the car will not remote start again because the door was opened.
kinda hard to explain, but it works for those who are worried about things like this.
You have two linkages that both need to be in a specific position for the car to be in neutral. Mount a small magnet on each linkage, put a reed switch near each magnet at their neutral positions, then connect the reed switches in series from a switched 12V source to the coil of a relay with the far end grounded. Put the relay contacts in parallel with the existing clutch switch. With some examination of the action of the linkage you might even be able to figure out how to do this with only one reed switch!
Both reed switches closed = relay closed = engine can start with transmission in neutral and clutch not depressed.
Note that none of this connects electrically with the remote start hardware, so there is no chance of screwing up the remote start stuff.
George
01-05-2005, 10:15 PM
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Re: pay somebody
Originally Posted by Fitty2005
hell, most of you are over my head, do any of you know where to have this sort of system installed, with option of having the remote start not work unless its in netural ?
That leaves the do-it-yourself angle. You can do just about anything yourself if you do a bit of studying and experimenting. That's probably the easiest route if you really want to do this.
George
01-22-2005, 11:37 PM
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Re: pay somebody
Originally Posted by George
That leaves the do-it-yourself angle. You can do just about anything yourself if you do a bit of studying and experimenting. That's probably the easiest route if you really want to do this.
George
