FT-86, Toyota's next failure
 

http://jalopnik.com/5521080/report-t...nto-the-solara

If this turns out to be true, lulz.

Yea thats some Fail right there!

Doesn't really say much other than the price will go up. Does the design change? Power?

nobody knows what power its gonna make. the only mechanical details are its a boxer motor which may be n/a or t/c who knows and its rwd.

I really wonder how/who does the research that affects toyota's decision???? IMHO they need better input; i dont think they have a clue of what ppl want and i think thats with all of the car companies ............guess saving up for g37s still a good idea lol

Most people that work for these divisions are completely inadequate for the job. It is sad really. Toyota wonders why their market share is decreasing and age of buyers is increasing, this is why (on top of other stuff).

Whats so bad about that? I would expect realistically the price to be around 23 and up. If the FT started at 20, it would totally smash the Genesis's price tag. The Gensis was brought down to the lowest profitable price the car could be sold at. The GTI runs around 22 and up. As for the fuel efficiency, the government has regulations that companies have to follow. By 2014, I believe all recent vehicles need to achieve 30 and above mpg or somewhere around that range.

Its not a surprise that the world is becoming more conservative.

Yeah that doesn't really say much. So it will be in the Genesis price range and more fuel efficient. Big whoop.

anybody that actually thought the ft-86 was going to be near 20k is fing retarded. Its just more speculation like people did with the new tc, people need to wait until they actually release the car.

lol what do you have against toyota carbon lol

LOL! This makes my decision to jump ship from toyota this past week that much easier.

i think the fail part is where they changed their target age group thinking younger people dont have an interest in it as much as they thought

The price isn't the failure. Toyota is taking a potential 350z, Mustang, Gen Coupe competitor, and turning it into a RWD Prius.

Ford set the bar with the new 2011 Mustang, Toyota seems to aiming at the bar that was set in 1989.

Do you know what else was the result of too much market research?

http://randombuzz.net/wp-content/upl...simpsoncar.gif

i saw a is-F today that thing was mean

Doubtful that Toyota is going to turn the FT86 into a Solara. Apples and Oranges. Looks more like Toyota is going towards an inexpensive Elise, Miata, Boxster/Camen type of car for mid life crisis minded 40 yr. olds. None of those cars could be considered low on fun factor, quite the contrary. From what I read there was no mention of reducing power of the engine. What was said was that Toyota just wants to reduce fuel consumption by using a Toyota mill opposed to the Subaru boxer mill.
Think of the new 2011 Lotus Elise. It's light, gets 45 mpg and, most importantly is fast and nimble. 0-60 in 6 secs. fast. And guess what, it uses a Toyota 1.6 4-banger. Actually, this news about the FT86 is a blessing in disguise. The FT86 will get better gas milage, have more sophistication, and have a reliant Toyota engine. Getting all that for just a boost in the price from $20 grand to $23 grand is not bad at all. Not to mention that a higher price means there will be less riced out FT86 out there.