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PrettyniceB 03-13-2006 10:13 PM

DIY Fluids over 15k HelpMySituation & Questions(random)
 
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okay help please

I decided to skip my 15k maintenance, if you may know or not, because I've been hijacking a few threads here to get some answers and nothing, people act like they cant read my hijack, but anyways.........

The following came in the mail ATC plus &BG MOA oil additive.
Questions/guidance.
1. MOA oil additive. Goes in the circle under engine oil?
2. Automatic conditioner, where is it poured into?
3. 44kFuel cleaner, poured into the gas tank on empty right?

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam.../cansfluid.jpg

The 44 fuel k should come in the next couple of days

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...atenginbay.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam.../SLPic/bat.jpg
^^ And how the heck do ya get this red plasctic tie off. ^^
I need help as a DIYourselfer.

SciontCya 03-14-2006 01:23 AM


The following came in the mail ATC plus &BG MOA oil additive.
Questions/guidance.
1. MOA oil additive. Goes in the circle under engine oil?
2. Automatic conditioner, where is it poured into?
3. 44kFuel cleaner, poured into the gas tank on empty right?
1) On the left side of the engine cover, there's a round oil filler cap. Put the oil treatment in there.

2) Your owners manual can show you the auto-tranny filler hole.

3) the cleaner should say whether or not it should be a 1/2 tank or full - I doubt empty is the answer.

Scott

PS - I already told you that additives are a waste of money. Fuel-system cleaners can be useful, but the rest, from all that I've read is bunk, or, Snake Oil. Better to go to the dealer or Iffy Loob and get the regular maintenance done when it's needed... :no:

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 01:08 PM

Thanks........... but the number 2? I cant find where the auto tranny filter is. I looked in the book but it only points out eleven points.
powering sterring fluid reserovir
engine oil cap
engine oil level
brake fluid
fuese block
battery radiator
electronic cooling fan
condenser
whinshield washer fluid tank
enfine coolant reservoir

I dont know where this auto tranny is and I wonder if I pour
this conditioner in, will it over flow, do I pour the whole 11oz.
in there or do I have to sypen 11oz. out somehow?

Fuel inject should be easy, but hopefully that'll come today, but I don't know where to pour this ATCplus

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 03:03 PM

^^^early lunch bumpy........?^^^ "is this thing on?"

gjpjr84 03-14-2006 05:24 PM

I Have no clue on the answers to your remaning questions.

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 05:27 PM

:pray:

gjpjr84 03-14-2006 05:32 PM

I'll prolly be better help to ya in a few hours or so...

SciontCya 03-14-2006 05:39 PM

I'm going to tell you this once more because I truly believe it.
Don't waste time and money on the oil/tranny additives. Since you've already bought them, take the loss and put them on the shelf.
Now, take your car to a local shop and get the oil changed and possibly the tranny fluid too.

Use the fuel-system cleaner per instructions.

Scott

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 05:45 PM


I'll prolly be better help to ya in a few hours or so...
you gots till sun down!!!! I don't know where to put it at?
Although it kinda reminds me of a energy drink. If i just drink it because I never figured out where this goes into, then, :? IT'LL BE ON YOUR HANDS WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!

*jks/kidding* I need to calm down right? lol :shock:






yeah got a lot of oil additives..... ebay 68 bucks 10 shipping
Two ATC conditioner = 46 bucks shipped
Fuel additive didn't come in the mail today, so maybe tomorrow? (I'm not driving til then just sitting round the house, watching the boards)

Now, take your car to a local shop and get the oil changed and possibly the tranny fluid too.
Already had the 15k oil change and tire rotation, just didnt want to pay 280 bucks
for a the dealership to LOOK/Visually Inspect items like (interior, exterior lights) and then add three cans of these liquids. Felt like I was getting Skr3ud. So that's the reason I order all this stuff. I will definitely take it there then it says at the 30k interval. I'm at 16.5k now

Probably hit that around mid summer??

SciontCya 03-14-2006 06:13 PM

OK, I will go look and see where the auto tranny filler is...

Scott

ScionDad 03-14-2006 06:30 PM

OK....not sure why you bought all this stuff, but if you must put it in...then so be it. But beware...sometimes more damage is done than good.

Most of the time, any additives are done at the time of fluid changes.

First, before you add anything, you have to drain the same quantity out. If you add 1 quart of tranny additive, you have to drain out 1 quart of tranny fluid first, then add it. The tranny drain plug is under the transmission IIRC. The fill is the orange handle you see to the left of the battery. You need to use a funnel.

Same with the oil. You have to drain out first what you put in. The drain plug is under the oil pan on the passenger front side of the car. The drain plug points towards the rear of the car and the oil pan is black.

IMO, you would be better served using fully synthetic motor oil and leave the transmission alone. If you really want to improve the tranny, install a separate transmission cooler. The transmission lines run to the left (passenger) side of the radiator, you will see 2 black hoses attached to 2 aluminum tubes. Heat is the biggest cause for transmission failures.

Oh yeah, and to remove the red cover for the battery, slide 1 of the clips up and the other clip down and the 2 will separate. But, don't leave this off. The battery getting shorted out can get pretty ugly.

gjpjr84 03-14-2006 06:45 PM

there ya go ^^

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 07:02 PM

ur great. I thought that was something.......i have a little more confidence. going to look for these parts again. I remember the orange dip stick. Just need to find the plug under it to drain it right? right. I'll go out side in 15 minutes and try to match up wrenches to drain some out first like u said!

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 07:58 PM

:P Okay I think this will go okay.
The Automatic drain is this one I believe on the driver side,
but after I took a pick its not the same tool to remove it as the
oil, looks like an allal wrench (the six sided thing)
And I cant find my allah wrench set!! :nails:


oil
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...ousidenow1.jpg
oil ^^ looks s3xy for some reason in this picture


http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...ousidenow2.jpg
^^This is the Trans under the driverside...(I need to put things back in their place :doh: cause I know I have a set, its yellow, but no clue where it is now.)

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...ousidenow3.jpg
looking for the right size, sorry no finished update yet![/img]

PrettyniceB 03-14-2006 09:45 PM

:P
Okay finished!
Pictures and words of advice.

ScionDad wrote:

The tranny drain plug is under the transmission IIRC. The fill is the orange handle you see to the left of the battery. You need to use a funnel.
Thx...

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...ousidenow5.jpg
After pulling up the orange dip stick and wiping it off. (measuring - read what sciondad wrote)


http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...ousidenow7.jpg
After getting the six head screw driver (alla wrench?) Drain fluid

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...sidenow010.jpg
The original trans fluid is purplish light if its clean, and the BG Automatic
Transmission Conditioner Plus is golden (honey color & texture, but not to thick)

http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbam...sidenow011.jpg
This last pic is to show how I spilled 30% of it on the ground. Why? not because
I didn't operate the funnel right, it was because this annoy boy comes down the street
and ask to walk my dog while watching me work on the car, pushy pushy little kid
(may remind some of you of who told you to post here in the first place :lalala: )
But either way the ATC plus is a thicker than the purple trans fluid and it goes down
the orange in take part slower, so some overflowed on to the inside of the car then
onto the ground.
So I just poured a little of the regular transmission fluid back in to compensate.
Thanks!

I can continue the diy whenever the 44k fuel injector cleaner gets here :yawn:

ScionDad 03-15-2006 07:53 PM

:clap: Good job....

xBster 03-19-2006 12:27 PM

Wow...a lot of additives for so few miles, I have just started using a couple of them on my beater car with 80,000 on it. Most of the time these additives aren't needed as long as the regular maintanance is done.

SciontCya 03-19-2006 05:01 PM

There's also a good possibility that some of these can cause trouble.
Fluids are a highly researched/developed part of an engine, and I don't believe that any new car needs these.
Sermon over. Hopefully, your tC will do well and keep running.
Props for at least doing it yourself :clap:

Scott

PrettyniceB 03-20-2006 07:24 PM

The only fluid that was needed and I can definitely vouch for is the 44k Fuel Injector Cleaner. I notice the car feeling slower. Wasn't actually slower, but the RPM needle dropped back down to 1rpm quickly after I took the foot off the gas.
Affter adding it, it cruised again and the needle falls slower, car cruised without the minimally noticable bruise.
Definitely had to do this before I put this road trip on the car.
Definitely going to keep up with the schedule maintenance.

Next thing will be to find out how to do the other things on the list, like tightening chassy? Where, what bolts, but this 44k Fuel Injector cleaner worked Wonders!!!


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