So i went to renew my drivers license last week. I had to give permission to pre-register my information to the United States Draft. Are they bringing it back?

I have been doing a lot of research online, and haven't found anything solid as for information goes. However, 90% of the websites i went to, and articals agreed on one thing. If we stay in Iraq, it wouldn't be impossible thinking to have a 2006 Military Draft.

Don't get me wrong, i support our troops. However, i strongly disagree with George Bush. All of our original reasonings for being in Iraq, changes half way through to unrelated things. I do not want to be forced to fight something i don't feel is right. Why do you think the Military can't find more troops? No one wants to fight this time around. But back on track.

Does anyone know any additional information about this? I'm very concerned about what this means for me. I've thought about going into a branch a while back, but strongly decided my heart was not into fighting this war and the cause i disagree with. I just can't do it as much as i appreciate what the United States stands for. I just don't agree we should try to fight a war on Terrorism; you won't win. No matter how hard you fight, you can't win. There will always be extremist out there that hate us, or someone else. Always. You can't fight chaos with chaos.

I'd rather go to jail or pay thousands in fines than go over there and be forced to serve. THats not right. Not by a long shot. Forcing kids to go over there, is not freedom. And is not what we stand for as a nation.

I know this is a sensitive subject for lots of people. However, i do respect those who believe in the war and believe in Bush. Everyone has their own thinking and their own way of doing things. I just want to know if theres information out there to find out exactly whats happening. Because apparently, the Bush Administration isn't very coming-forth with it.

Thank you.

Cya

 

the draft never really went away

 

Explain...

 

Technically it did, a major aspect of it did. But, volunteer - draft didn't. At least, thats my understanding. We got rid of the, we force you to come to war or pay the price. I could be wrong, but i do have a well understanding of whats going on. I consider myself lucky to keep myself focused on whats going on, lots of people don't. Especially at my age. Its horrible to think a full draft can take place again.

If the military can't get enough volunteers, and can't get those in the service to renew, shouldn't that be a wake up call for the administration to pull us out of there or reconsider every reason we are there? Yes. Will it? No.

I really hope someone on ScionLife knows exactly whats going to happen.

Cya

 

There are technicallities(?) you can get away with from the draft, Like if you have one brother and he has already been drafted or is currently enlisted you cannot be drafted so you your family line can be continued(thank you saving private ryan guy sorry forgot his name) also if you have any major medical issues asthma, bad backs, bad knees, flat feet things along that line. Hornet is right its never gone away they just have stricter guidelines now and stuff.

 

Did you register when you turned 18? Even though there is no longer a draft, you are still legally required to register with the selective service when you turn 18. Every 18 year old male in the country is required to do this.

 

You're required to register with the selective service when you turn 18. The government has always had the "right" to draft. Well, alright, people will debate the word but the fed has always kept that power in the event of war. I'm sure there's probably a hundred websites out there debating the legality, effects, etc of a draft. Just google it.

 

I have an older sister that hasn't served or anything along the lines of that. I would rather go than her. As for conditions for medical. I have a medical history of mild-sever depression, i used to take medication and went to therapy for a good year-to-two years for it. I'm better now, but like everyone, i have bad days and good days. Sometimes worse than most but i consider myself average now i suppose. Anyway, i don't have a history of bad backs, or bad knees but i don't know.

I registered to vote, so i'm assuming i'm registered for selective services. I'm 19, this was the first time i noticed a Draft information requirement. I probably was registered, but i don't know. Its more real when theres talk of a major Draft coming back into play. I don't know if past medical issues count as medical reasoning to not be able to go over there. I'm not really looking for an excuse not to go, i'm more looking for information as to whats really going on with the Draft. If its really going to come back, and military call thousands for duty or face the consequences. Or, if its just rumors linked to newpapers, forums and websites.

Thanks for the information so far.

Cya

 

they forced us to register when i was still in H.S.

if i ever get drafted i wanna be the first one to die but thats just me

 

http://www.sss.gov/

 

Registering for the Selective Service is required for all males over age 18, whether you have a driver's license or not, whether you vote or not, and whether you want to you or not. So the person who suggested that the draft never went away is partially correct: Our government reserves the right to call any male over 18 and under 26 to military or civil service. Check out http://www.sss.gov/ for more details.

That said, we haven't had a draft in well over thirty years. Right now, we have plenty of volunteers joining the Armed Forces (or Uniformed Services, depending on your political preferences), so we don't need to force people in the military. Even though most services have been below their recruiting goals for the last few years, we still have plenty of troops.

Finally, as an active duty enlisted person myself, I can tell you that the vast majority of we in the military do not want draftees working with us. It's just like working any other job with somebody who doesn't want to be there, only you have to trust that person with your life and the lives of all of your coworkers.

 

Well, hopefully, you put the draftees, the severly near-sighted, the very rotund, and the very stupid in the REMF and chickensh!t positions.

 

Thank you and the other person for the website, i'll check it out. If i did go over there, obviously i would do the best i can given the situation and would try to earn the trust of others..Because thats really all you have in order to survive. However, the fact i wouldn't want to be there, i wouldn't be as well trained in every situation like you and others that are there. With that said, it would be a mistake to bring those back. But anyway, thanks for your information.

And don't get me wrong, i do support the troops like yourself. I just don't support the justified cause that claims you to be there.

Cya

 

Thank God for asthma.....nuff said.

 

I'm old enough (and disabled enough and have already served anyway) not to have a DIRECT interest in a renewal of a requirement for involuntary military service (draft).

Putting that aside, the numbers on volunteers and the current (and potential future) numbers needed by national commitments almost demand a draft to be re-instated despite the shrub's repeated denials that anything like that could possibly happen while he's in office. Depends on what you trust, I guess, the shrub or the numbers...

I hope it doesn't happen, but I see NOTHING to prevent it at this time. There was an active draft when I went into the military (and served in Viet Nam) but I was not drafted - my US Army draft notice arrived after I was already in basic training in the US Air Force.

So long as "The Government" is pursuing ends the mass of young adults agrees with, there is no problem filling our military with highly qualified and dedicated volunteers - in fact for a long while the requirements were quite tight and we were turning away a lot of volunteers. We could afford to be picky.

However, any time "The Government" begins doing something unpopular or questionable, the support - and the number of quality volunteers - goes down.

Right now the services are playing games with not allowing people to leave, and using up our "reserves" because we just don't have anywhere near enough active military for what we've been committed to.

I would not be at all surprised to see the return of a limited, active, draft...

"Wars are never fought by those who start them."

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I'll end with the 'required' Heinlein quote:

No state has an inherent right to survive through conscript troops, and in the long run no state ever has. — Robert A. Heinlein

 

one more year and i'll be free from the draft hopefuly!!!

 

A few friends of mine, that personally know a few people over their said they told them its not that bad. Worst part is not being able to come home when they were originally told. I don't know, maybe it depends on what part you are working at. It seems to me a lot of things aren't being told to us that probably should. Of course the Government is going to keep things from us to protect our sanity. But things like this, we should always be informed. IMO.

Who knows, i guess when time comes and they start calling people up something will happen. Otherwise, i shouldn't worry about it because its not then, and i have a lot going for me now. I sure hope this crap ends soon, the econmy i'm sure will start showing even more the harm this war has done.

No one ever wins a war, both sides lose with fatalities, dept, and less than a victory away from reality.

Cya

 

This is intersting.. Its really hard saying... This is my view, even though Im in military..

1: If a draft is issued, as humans we still have the right to say "no". The government would then try to use force to "punish" you into doing what they want. I see this as a big big problem. The fact stands, that the civilian to military ratio is so high, that if civilians wanted to, they could over run the military. So by forcing a draft on modern america, I would guess something like a second civil war might break out & would hurt the American economy & leave us more open to a forign attack..

This is just my views on the idea of a draft & what could come about from it. I still figure if you want to serve, serve if you can. If you dont, dont. The need for a military styled force, is just another way for a group of ppl to say "I got bigger ***** then you!"

 

http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2005/24.html

The may be a bunch of liberals, but everything they say is true and backed up my numerous sources.

All the framework is in place. Iran, China, North Korea, Syria, Iraq if things really go south. They have been screwing people, keeping them over past their commitments, extending tours etc. If something else hits the fan and we need to go in, then there is no way we can do it unless we get some serious manpower and no matter how many NASCAR's they sponsor sooner or later, if Mr. Bush's vision is to be completed, they are going to have to start drafting people.

It will probably be bogus and I'll be dead set against it, but if there is a draft I'll go over there before my brothers do. I'm not going to run off to Canada and let some poor person with no options take the L. Sometimes life sucks and you gotta do your duty as an American. It might be wrong and it might be unjust, but what can you do. You live here and you gotta play by the rules. I don't want to be remembered in 20 years as someone who weaseled my way out.

 

Well it could be like it is in Singapore where EVERYONE has to serve X amount of time int he military(X=male or female) and then be in the reserves for 7-10 years after that (not sure will find out though)