so i got a speeding ticket in hawaii but not on my scion on my bike. i got it on 22dec and ive been waiting online to pay for it but it still hasnt shown up. does this mean im good for now. it says pay the ticket by 21 days either go to district court or mail the money or pay internet. do u think there some chance the cop didnt enter the ticket and is waiting for me to just pay it off via mail or walk-in? it does say on the ticket may take up 13 day to be posted in the internet but yea my thing is if it doesnt show up do think he threw away the ticket or just didnt want to put it in wait for me to turn in my copy? if notin shows via internet by 19th day do u think i should walk in or mail my payment still or just forget about the ticket. acouple of my buddies says they havent paid there speeding ticket for 6 months another one is trying to fight his speeding ticket. someone from hawaii please help

 

Of course they didn't just "forget" to enter it into the system. These ticket record systems tend to get really backed up. I guess they don't have enough people doing data entry. When I got my speeding ticket (this was about 4 years ago), it took almost 2 months for the ticket to appear in the online system so that I could pay it. The first deadline date came after 6 weeks and I had to file for an extension just so I could wait for the ticket to be entered into the system. Btw, if you're not seeing it on the internet then that usually means it's not in their system at all yet, so if you go to the court and try to pay then they will tell you to come back in a few days/weeks. All you can do is wait until someone gets around to processing your ticket, then you can take steps to pay it off.

 

but hawaii ticket is different from CALI i gotten ticket at cali

 

Doesn't matter. I'm telling you that just because you don't see the ticket online, that doesn't mean you are free to go. The cops just haven't recorded your ticket in their database yet. It will show up eventually, even if you have to request an extension on the deadline.

 

that's an interesting system i wish it was that easy so we dont have to go to court or mailing the ticket payment all the time. i do know that court systems are slow. it mightve not just shown up on the internet yet.

 

Do not wait. And Do NOT pay the ticket. Get a lawyer. A lawyer's fees for speeding are usually only $75. They have many legal tricks to get you off, get you a reduced fine or get you deferred adjudication. Bottom line, don't just 'pay the ticket.' A quick google search will tell you that is what they want you to do so they don't have to go to court. If they don't show in court, and you do, you're off scot free.

Also, regardless of the outcome, if you hire a lawyer, chances are you won't hear anything for 6 months to a year because lawyers can post-pone court dates all they like, for no other reason than "I have another case that day, Your Honor" and it's done. I had a ticket wait for over a year before court time and then the cop was nowhere around. Off scot free for me!!!

Get a lawyer.

 

I wouldnt wait. You sped, now you pay. Just go to te court and pay it.

 

He "allegedly" sped. He's still innocent until proven guilty. And if the cop don't show up, it'll be hard to prove.

I have had 9 tickets since I got home from the military in '03. Curiously....NONE are on my record. ;)

 

My lawyer dragged my reckless driving ticket out until the officer who wrote it took leave for Afghanistan. All they have now are my friends as witnesses. They've got me cornered.

 

That's how it happens. Any number of things prevent the cop from showing up. He could get transfered, fired, quit, deployed....anything. Or maybe he just doesn't feel like showing up. The system WANTS you just to pay the fine and move on. That's how the systems makes its money. But, if you FIGHT, you will almost always WIN.

 

I believe innocent until proven guilty, but only if you are trully innocent.
I beleive in owning up to what you did. If you sped, I dont believe in getting off on technicalities.
And no where did the OP say he wasnt speeding. So he is guilty. So there is no ellegedly, if it really happened.

 

You were speeding on a bicycle???

I was a disabled person using an electric disability scooter. Going down a steep grade in Fishersville, VA I was pulled over for going 13 mph in a 15mph zone. Basically the cop wanted to make sure I was in control of my scooter and was aware I was close to exceeding the limit near a votech college..

 

How cute.

You believe in innocent until proven guilty only if you're actually innocent? Well, unless the kid was doing 100 down a freeway in heavy traffic, I'd say he's innocent. You see, speeding also includes intent. If there are other factors like.....common speed (that means everyone's 'technically' speeding) or things like someone driving like an idiot that the kid was trying to get away from.....or perhaps he was just coming down the H3 freeway and the car got away from him a lil bit.....I'd say the kid is INNOCENT until they PROVE that was and was intending to speed.

Own up to you 'allegations' and pay the ridiculous fines all you like. See you when you're walking because your license is suspended. The rest of us realize that speeding tickets are just revenue generators for the city and we choose to fight.

Don't believe me? How about the fact that in Germany, they (wisely) have no limit on the autobahn? Why is the speed limit on 'some' highways 55 and on others it's 65 and on others still it's 70 or 75?

Speed laws are arbitrary, especially here in Texas. My defense lawyer...or one of them anyway, actually discovered that there is NO LIMIT in Texas for speed. Sure they make the white signs and they write tickets, but if you look at the law books for Texas the actual wording is "fair and reasonable speed for the conditions." So, when he's actually had to go to trial for "speeding" be brings that up to the jury. And he always wins.

Because if you go by the letter of the law, and that means the letter of the law books as they are written, you can NOT convict someone for speeding in Texas unless they're doing like....100 mph in a rainstorm because that'd be too fast for the conditions.

So the point is this (and this goes back to the days when movies like Smokey and The Bandit were popular): the speed laws are mainly written for money and revenue generation and only those who wish to willingly contribute to the city in such ways (aside from taxes) should just 'pay the fines.'

Those who do not, should always fight.

 

To each their own, I guess its your way of sticking it to the man.

And I know very well about the autobahn, I lived there for 5 years, driving as fast as I pleased when ever I wanted to.

 

I stick it to he who tries to stick it to me.

I used to just pay the fine. In fact, I was in hawaii for 3. 5 years and the last 6 months I was there, I got pulled over twice. Once I just paid the fine (didn't know any better) and the second time I just had the wrong insurance card with me. That one went away when I showed proof of insurance.

Speed laws are way to arbitrary to consider actual laws. Most adults, at least those who drive and actually focus on driving, know enough about it that they should be able to decide their own, reasonable operation speed. (If it works for the autobahn racers, why not here?)

We just have way to many loudmouths here (in the US) who whine and cry about what should be a safe limit on the freeways. (Perhaps if those same people actually paid attention while they were driving, speed wouldn't be an issue.)

I've gone triple digits before ni more than one state... I'm still here. I'm here because I know you can't do triple digits all the time. I'm here because I knew to use the brake when things looked unsafe. Whether I drive 80 or 70 on a freeway shouldn't matter. I believe the cops have bigger fish to fry with all the crime going on, they don't need their time wasted by people saying they need to watch for speeders.

But that's just me.

Actually, that's some cops too. I've gotten tickets where the cop writing it worded his statement to me in such a way that he was basically telling me to go to court without actually saying it. THey know their time is better spent elsewhere.

One cop pulled me over and said "I'll just write you up for 5 over and then I'll pretend I saw your current insurance card ."(Again, I had the wrong card on me).

I went to court, he was nowhere around....."Case dismissed."

They're out there on the roads because their bosses say they have to be. Much like the drug laws. I have heard MANY cops say they are wasting their time throwing a kid in jail for an ounce of weed when they could be chasing murderers.

The fact is, the cops have people who tell them what to do, same as the rest of us. Were it up to some of those cops, speed laws would be nil and so would 'many' of the drug laws.

 

Pay it man. Non-essential governmental functions basically shut down between Thanksgiving and Valentine's Day! Unfortunately, their ineptness doesn't relieve you of your responsibilities.

 

Don't pay it. Get a lawyer. You'll be glad you did.

 

lawyer, ALWAYS. ALWAYS.

 

the court system is slow in inputting the tickets onto the computer...but I heard on the news a few weeks or months ago that they were hiring an outside firm to input the tickets onto the database to speed up the process....

you'd better pay, or they put a warrant out for your arrest due to the non-payment.

 

Yall need to understand how Hawaii is with speeding tickets... its a little bit different then what your used to the the Continental US.