Toyota Considers Building Scion in U.S., Part 2
10-15-2005, 07:05 PM
#1
Senior Member
SL Member
sIcKsCiOnS
Scion Evolution
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,011
Toyota Considers Building Scion in U.S., Part 2
just to refresh -- rumors earlier this year reported that Scions were to be built in Canada at the new Toyota plant being built. these rumors have since been squashed. but now, this: ( from insideline)
Date Posted 10-14-2005
TOKYO — Toyota is thinking about building Scion vehicles in the United States, according to a story in a Japanese newspaper.
The Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun reported Toyota could use spare capacity at Subaru's underused Subaru of Indiana Automotive (SIA) plant in Indiana to build the Scion, the super-successful Toyota youth brand that sold 100,000 units in 2004.
The paper said Toyota originally planned to build the Scion at its second, $650 million Canadian plant, in Cambridge, Ontario, which will start to build the new RAV4 in 2008. But the automaker has since calculated that it could go into SIA with less initial investment and could make ends meet even with small cars that have low profit margins, the paper reported.
Things evidently are moving fast with the Toyota-Subaru tie-up, announced October 5. Toyota now has bought an 8.7-percent stake in Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru's parent company, for about $315 million. And already the Japanese media has reported Toyota wants to build 100,000 extra cars a year in the United States using SIA production lines. Subaru, in turn, is looking to reduce costs by tapping into Toyota's supplier base, and reportedly has already asked Toyota to supply it with a new small car to sell in Europe.
What this means to you: Scion is primed to go big time in the United States, with a little help from Subaru.
TOKYO — Toyota is thinking about building Scion vehicles in the United States, according to a story in a Japanese newspaper.
The Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun reported Toyota could use spare capacity at Subaru's underused Subaru of Indiana Automotive (SIA) plant in Indiana to build the Scion, the super-successful Toyota youth brand that sold 100,000 units in 2004.
The paper said Toyota originally planned to build the Scion at its second, $650 million Canadian plant, in Cambridge, Ontario, which will start to build the new RAV4 in 2008. But the automaker has since calculated that it could go into SIA with less initial investment and could make ends meet even with small cars that have low profit margins, the paper reported.
Things evidently are moving fast with the Toyota-Subaru tie-up, announced October 5. Toyota now has bought an 8.7-percent stake in Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru's parent company, for about $315 million. And already the Japanese media has reported Toyota wants to build 100,000 extra cars a year in the United States using SIA production lines. Subaru, in turn, is looking to reduce costs by tapping into Toyota's supplier base, and reportedly has already asked Toyota to supply it with a new small car to sell in Europe.
What this means to you: Scion is primed to go big time in the United States, with a little help from Subaru.
10-15-2005, 07:21 PM
#2
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,900
i just don't buy the idea that they are going to have subaru manufacture scions.. unless the ceo of toyota is a liar.. he already said scions would continue to be made in japan..
but thanks for the info..
but thanks for the info..
10-15-2005, 08:03 PM
#3
Member
SL Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: marion, in
Posts: 48
toyota working with suburu
I work for a auto manufacturer and from what I've seen all the car companies today are tied in with each other. We are currently working with other manufactures on a " world engine" to be used in imports and domestics?!
10-15-2005, 08:15 PM
#5
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,900
yeah bB626, exactly.. after all that "yelling" online about don't make it in n. america.. the ceo of toyota said that they wouldn't shift production.. hopefully he's telling the truth.. i like my tC is built in japan!
10-15-2005, 09:38 PM
#8
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
Posts: 140
...i want more models , not more xAs , xBs or tCs.
...the two seater conv....the slick 4dr...the urban pickup..
...Toyota , now knows ( with high gas costs ) people want cool little well-equipted vehicles .
...the two seater conv....the slick 4dr...the urban pickup..
...Toyota , now knows ( with high gas costs ) people want cool little well-equipted vehicles .
10-15-2005, 10:37 PM
#10
Member
SL Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pilipinas
Posts: 73
That suks cause its means that the Price will be higher. Design and Motor might be made different than Japan. Engine might not be as powerful as before since the Americans would make the car. Its like Scion mix with Chevy all together imagine that ewwww!
10-16-2005, 12:22 AM
#11
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 546
Originally Posted by Wreck
That suks cause its means that the Price will be higher. Design and Motor might be made different than Japan. Engine might not be as powerful as before since the Americans would make the car. Its like Scion mix with Chevy all together imagine that ewwww!
Speaking of Toyota mixing with Chevy: Chevy Prism=Toyota Corolla. Pontiac Vibe=Toyota Matrix Reasons why the Prisms continue to move around is because most if not all specifications for that car was primarily designed by Toyota especially the powerplant.
10-16-2005, 12:47 AM
#12
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Franklin, Pennsylvania
Posts: 273
Thats actually a smart business move for Toyota to build scions in the US since They will not have to import cars anymore.. Which will eliminate tairiffs. (for the idiots) thats the taxes on imports.. its all about saving money.. I say go Toyota I'm very satisfied with my xB who cars if its built in the USA?
10-16-2005, 01:04 AM
#14
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by burkpe
Thats actually a smart business move for Toyota to build scions in the US since They will not have to import cars anymore.. Which will eliminate tairiffs. (for the idiots) thats the taxes on imports.. its all about saving money.. I say go Toyota I'm very satisfied with my xB who cars if its built in the USA?
10-16-2005, 01:15 AM
#15
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Franklin, Pennsylvania
Posts: 273
Japan is one of the most expensive countrys in the world to live in do you really think they pay their laborers less than what they would in the US.. Reguardless I'm sure that the labor and tairiff rates would ultimatly be more than making a car in the U.S. not to mention shipping all the way from Japan to the U.S. 
10-16-2005, 03:07 AM
#16
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: TwinTiers -- NY/PA
Posts: 307
Originally Posted by Wreck
That suks cause its means that the Price will be higher. Design and Motor might be made different than Japan. Engine might not be as powerful as before since the Americans would make the car. Its like Scion mix with Chevy all together imagine that ewwww!
As what?
10-16-2005, 04:07 AM
#17
they better build it in the USA... they are farming out to many of the USA Job to forign contries.... That what happens with have a guy like bush that let these thing happen... Bush Can Kiss My azz!!
10-16-2005, 04:19 AM
#18
Senior Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 280
some of u guys are lame. jus bc the car is gonna be built in the U.S doesnt mean its gonna be ____. The reason their built in japan in the first place was because japan was already manufacturing the xA,xB (iSt, bB). I think its better cause scion is in high demand, and theres always none at the dealership. and like marshall said, more jobs.
10-16-2005, 12:16 PM
#19
Senior Member
SL Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: TwinTiers -- NY/PA
Posts: 307
Originally Posted by eight08customs
they better build it in the USA... they are farming out to many of the USA Job to forign contries.... That what happens with have a guy like bush that let these thing happen... Bush Can Kiss My azz!!
