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jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 05:30 PM

weight reduction
 
Besides going CF, getting lighter wheels, and gutting spare tire and seats. Are their any other tricks to do to kill some weight without completely gutting the car and making it looked strip down.
Basically i still want my interior to look good but loose weight at the same time.

Anything i don't know about, or do i basically have it down?

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 05:33 PM

Sorry if i posted this in the wrong section. I thought i was in the interior forum lol :loser:

Wutachampion Oct 8, 2008 05:42 PM

lose some weight fatty. jk

i thought i saw someone else ask about this and they wanted to remove the whole moon roof part and make it hardtop style. idk if u kno what im talkin about. but yea tahts all i gots

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Wutachampion
lose some weight fatty. jk

i thought i saw someone else ask about this and they wanted to remove the whole moon roof part and make it hardtop style. idk if u kno what im talkin about. but yea tahts all i gots

Yeah i think i remember somebody wanted to carbon fiber it. That would be awesome but way expensive lol

Anybody got anything else

CarbonXe Oct 8, 2008 06:05 PM

Remove A/C
Remove all ventilation under the dash
Remove spare tire
Remove everything under the cargo cover
CF hood/hatch/roof
16" RPF1
Shove finger down throat

Btw, your system alone weighs as much as all this stuff.

Shifty Oct 8, 2008 06:34 PM

Mount your battery in the trunk.

I'd assume the new aluminum radiator is lighter.

Brake rotors.

CarbonXe Oct 8, 2008 06:35 PM

Relocating the battery adds weight, it doesn't reduce weight due to the fact that you need to add two beefy wires to run to the rear of the car.

nodsetse Oct 8, 2008 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Wutachampion
lose some weight fatty. jk

That can actually help a lot in some cases...I've lost over 100 pounds since buying my tC, no joke!

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Remove A/C
Remove all ventilation under the dash
Remove spare tire
Remove everything under the cargo cover
CF hood/hatch/roof
16" RPF1
Shove finger down throat

Btw, your system alone weighs as much as all this stuff.

Yeah my system weighs around 100 pounds but i love it and the box size is perfect for the great sound. I think im gonna try removing everything under the cargo cover

Shifty Oct 8, 2008 09:08 PM

Odyssey brand battery even with the thicker cables will save some weight. Not to mention it takes some of the weight off the front of the car. My battery weighs around 14lbs.

Lightweight flywheel will save you some rotational mass. Not everyone agrees on them but light weight pulley set will also help a bit.

silverstreaktc Oct 8, 2008 09:12 PM

i agree with carbonxe that it adds weight because of the wires, but yet again you're not dragging the car so reloating the battery to the back will help balance out the weight distribution a bit better. but to lose weight...


TAKE OUT:

passenger/back seats
back panels
carpet

REPLACE:

hood w/ cf
trunk w/cf
roof w/ cf
wheels w/ lighter/smaller ones
battery w/ lighter one

tube frame chasis


you can make the car 2200lbs if you want, but that's some bank...

ichibansf Oct 8, 2008 09:27 PM

Just remember the more interior pieces you take out, the louder it will be inside. With no seats, rear panels, or hatch panels freeway driving is almost unbearable if you have a non-OEM exhaust.

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by ichibansf
Just remember the more interior pieces you take out, the louder it will be inside. With no seats, rear panels, or hatch panels freeway driving is almost unbearable if you have a non-OEM exhaust.

Yeah i was thinking about taking out the baqck seat but i always have people back there so im gonna keep it, ditch the spare and all the crap under the cargo and maybe soon replace some stuff with carbon fiber

xIxAMxHOLLYWOODx Oct 8, 2008 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Shifty
Mount your battery in the trunk.

Do you know why people move the battery to the trunk? And why you never see it done in a FWD car?

TRACTION

The battery's weight is used to help put weight over the drive wheels to aid in traction. Which in most cases is a much bigger problem than actual weight reduction.

Are you trying to get a better E/T on your drag time? If so, don't worry about pulling seats out and all that other nonsense, it is all minimal to begin with. Instead, invest in a LSD, 15" rims and drag slicks for the front. This will help the minimal power get planted to the ground rather than spinning your tires or the lovely case of wheel hop. (also might want to look into poly motor mounts as well as an engine damper)

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by xIxAMxHOLLYWOODx

Originally Posted by Shifty
Mount your battery in the trunk.

Do you know why people move the battery to the trunk? And why you never see it done in a FWD car?

TRACTION

The battery's weight is used to help put weight over the drive wheels to aid in traction. Which in most cases is a much bigger problem than actual weight reduction.

Are you trying to get a better E/T on your drag time? If so, don't worry about pulling seats out and all that other nonsense, it is all minimal to begin with. Instead, invest in a LSD, 15" rims and drag slicks for the front. This will help the minimal power get planted to the ground rather than spinning your tires or the lovely case of wheel hop. (also might want to look into poly motor mounts as well as an engine damper)

a LSD is totaly different then weight reduction. Yes i understand what u mean with traction and it helps take off. But that only helps though your first 2 maybe 3 gears if you have the power and thats IT. It helps put power to the ground. Were weight reduction lightens up the car. Less weight = higher speed, acceleration and better aerodynamics.
If you match a tc with a LSD vs the same tc without one and full weight reduction which one do you think will win. :eyebrow:

jdubb123 Oct 8, 2008 10:47 PM

BTW im talking about basically stock not fully modded engine and ect. Cuse thats what im running right now

xIxAMxHOLLYWOODx Oct 8, 2008 11:50 PM

in a drag race? 1/8 and 1/4 mile? The tc with proper traction wins. Trust me, I know from experience.

mbaledge Oct 9, 2008 01:50 AM

You can have the lightest tC on the forums, but if you can't hook up, suddenly your go-fast diet doesn't mean crap. Unfortunately, most things you can do to lighten your tC will adversly effect another aspect of it, appearance, audio quality, interior noise levels, practical use, whatever. If you want to keep it appearing stock, I've seen an old school charger that had drilled 2" holes into whatever inconspicuous spot in the sheet metal (under the doors, in the jams, under practically every interior panel). Granted, he also used a lot of fiberglass body panels and had no system and just a few interior panels in the car. Just food for thought.

jdubb123 Oct 9, 2008 03:02 AM

Well if its stock most of the weight is taken out of the back and since its a front wheel drive car all the weight in the front is still the same so i would believe that traction control wouldnt be that much of a difference

xIxAMxHOLLYWOODx Oct 9, 2008 03:30 AM

You lose a lot of traction with stock set up. And you get A LOT of wheel hop. You can spin almost all the way through 2nd on stock tires and now power mods. And guess what that does for your E/T? I know you THINK weight reduction will help, but the truth is weight reduction only comes in handy when you start to run under 10 sec 1/4's and hundreths of a second comes into play. Cause really, that's all you're gonna gain from gutting your ride. focus on your R/T and hooking up and you'll be surprised at how much you knock off your E/T...

You can be light as a feather and have 1000hp, but it all means nothing if u can't put it to the ground.


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