sn0rt

Hey how's it going guys. I need to know specifically what I need to have a fully built engine. Where only the engine is producing the power..no boost/charger..

thank you for your time,
ssn0rt

engifineer

That is a pretty wide open question and really depends on how deep your pockets are. You wont match boost dollar for dollar on this platform though.

Sly_dawg19

(EDIT) Sorry I always assume the 1NZ-FE didn't realize u had a tC til i saw this on the recent posts (end edit)

Take about 50,000k, get custom built full internals to be extremely light weight, and handle lots of 300-400 hp power.

Then put it all together, with a 12 grand Redline, full stand alone fuel management system, ITB's, straight header, totally insane head grind and rebuild, multiple or one huge fuel pumps,
1000 cc injectors, all that good fun stuff. Not to mention full rebuild of tranny, hubs, axles, etc.. Then you need to fully strengthen frame, etc.. Then suspension, then more this and more that.

In about 60,000k, 4 months time, you could make a 400 hp n/a 1NZ-FE, now if you went turbo and did this? About 10k would be a 400 hp 1NZ-FE.

Depends how rich you are, how fast you want it to be, and how much time your willing to spend.

engifineer

Where did the 1nz come in?

On our 2az, you can sleeve it, bore it out, run higher compression pistons, get some good head work done and some fuel management and have a fairly solid setup. It will cost more than a boosted setup with more power. It will also have a flatter power curve if you do it right. It would be a fun project, but you wont get a ton of power out of it. You could always take the same build though and drop the compression later to run boost and have a nice solid build to work with.

2fast4you

I agree with engifineer. You're going to easily spend 2k or 3k more going fully built N/A to achieve the same results as a boosted stock engine.

engifineer

But I for one would consider doing it just for fun though

2fast4you

It has been a fantasy of mine for over a year. Maybe if I win big in Vegas during NAB...

soros151

Expect to pay from 5k to 9k for a fully built N/A 2AZ motor.

ScionCREW

iTrader: (2)

Yeah that sound about write for a street car... but that will maybe give you 200hp. why would spend that much for allmotor? when you can spend half the money and go turbo and make over 400hp and till have your car as a daily driver...

soros151

That depends on the challenge u want to take on.

ScionCREW

iTrader: (2)

very ture!!

FIREDOG

are there any links to some material on where exactly i can get started if i want to do this...

FIREDOG

400 sounds a little high?.....

ScionCREW

iTrader: (2)

no it not with some race gas and 15-18 lbs of boost the will make 400 or more depending on the good your tuner .

StealthScion

Yeah, lol! 400hp FWD daily driver is kind of an oxymoron... when you're pushing that much power, you're going to have issues. even low-moderately boosted tCs are having issues.

But I agree with engifineer. the tC has forged steel con rods from the factory. if you bored the block, sleeved it (that would give you at least 2.7 probably) get some oversized high compression pistons, port and polish the head,
aftermarket valve train, reground cams or Crower cams, obviously I/H/E and fuel management with a good tune, you would EASILY make 200whp. probably closer to 250. not much more though without nitrous.

Chances are, when all is said and done, yeah, you probably will pay more for an all motor setup (labor is the killer) and make less power than you would with a turbo kit. and you would definitely have a flatter power curve, which with a fwd car, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Imo i don't trust boosting the 2-AZ, so I'm leaning towards NA build. while it may not idle as nicely, it would probably be more reliable and last longer.

And you get more brownie points for NOT being a boosted tC...like every 19 year old pizza delivery boy in the country... :D

engifineer

I think 200 at the wheels would be pushing it NA on this car. But 200 all motor with a nice power curve would be pretty nice.

As far as pushing 400 what stealth said is dead on. First, on a stock block it wont last long and second, 400 on a fwd (especially without an lsd) is nothing but a pita to drive. It is going to be laggy with that much boost, tq steer out the ****, unreliable over time and you will have massive traction issues.

I personally would never want more than about 200 - 220 whp on this car tops. First, the only type of "racing" it will ever do is autox, in which case that is more than enough for where this car will compete. Second, I dont want a fwd with massive power for my daily driver. If I want 300 - 400 hp I will just go out and find a rwd platform and drop a V8 in it. More reliable at that amount of power, can be done without boost, is smoother running, will handle the power better, etc.

ScionCREW

iTrader: (2)

ssn0rt good luck on your project . I hope in all this maddess we helped you . i think 200 is possible on a steet car N/A anything more then that your building a race car thtas not going too be street able ..

StealthScion

200 is definitely possible NA. no doubt about it.

Blickster