I was browsing around looking at various discussions on swaps, saw the V6 MZ swap, and meandered over to Wikipedia. Looked around for similar displacement V6's, and I came across the 2.5L 4GR-FSE, which is used on the Lexus IS250... which also used to be known as the Toyota Altezza, so I'm assuming that there's at least some compatibility with our engine bay.

Now, in saying that I've read the discussions... yes, I've seen the "turbo v. swap" arguements, I've seen the "work/power gain" arguements, etc. I'm just kicking around an idea at midnight out of curiosity and boredom. How much work would have to go into that swap (and yes, it's RWD or AWD, so that would have to be swapped out, too)? Is it worth the 4k plus time plus extra money?

 

No. Not for 40 more HP and extra weight.

 

That existing V6 swap is more of a novelty than anything. More nose heavy and little more power for the effort.

 

yeah, and the is250 is slower than a stock tc, so what would be the benifits?

 

AWD. Other than that, the ability to say "I did a V6 swap" and get a bunch of funny looks.

 

it would be easier and cheaper to just buy an is250 than to make one out of a tc so to speak.

the only problem is the awd is 250 is only sold as an auto.

 

if you really want to do a 6cyl swap, step up and drop in a Supra inline 6cyl with the turbo and convert it to rear wheel

 

Hell, if you're gonna go that far why not run it transversely in the back seat powering the rear wheels?

Supra powered mid-engine RWD tC.

 

Now that's the way to go!

 

i just came a little...

 

clean up aisle 5

 

A tubbed tC with a 2JZ in it would be sick. But maybe these guys could do something sick with the tC like they did this Corolla.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OVtN61aj5c
I figure why not while we're pipe dreaming.

 

anything is possible, if you have enough money!

 

I didn't need those back seats anyway!

I can't even begin to imagine how much work this would entail, let alone how much this would cost... but a MR tC with the 2JZ twin-turbo/6-speed Getrag transmission? That has the potential to be one of the most legendary, if not fastest, tC's ever made.

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2JZ - $2,500
6-speed - $4,000

 

You dont have to buy a certain engine for AWD. It is the tranny and rear end you need. If you wanted an AWD platform then get yourself a RAV4, which has a 2az in it, and start the million years of cutting, welding, hammering, fabbing, etc to make the AWD fit into the tC. Rick (raamaudio) was looking at doing this as well, but found that it would take a TON of fabricating... and considering that is coming from a guy that gutted the tC, helped design the one off CF roof for it, filled the unibody full of structural foam, installed custom suspension, got rid of ABS, etc that is saying a lot

And if you have a 160hp power plant and DO make it AWD, start looking for a turbo because it will be slow as crap. You will be losing a ton to the wheels with the AWD system as well as adding a bunch of weight to the car. Other than it being a cool fabrication project (And costing more than you bought the car for unless you can do 100% of it yourself) it will have little practical use. Personally, unless I was running it on dirt and snow a lot, I would rather have RWD anyway. But that would be just as tough. The entire floor layout of the car does not lend itself to a driveshaft and rear end. There is not enough room in back for it, so all of that has to be redone, cramming the new drivetrain in will be tough, etc.

 

A mid or rear engine tC with RWD would probably be about equal in complexity to an AWD one... and be a better car in the end

 

^^Pun intened?

 

So just out of curiosity then, engifineer, what do you think WOULD entail going from FF to MR? I haven't seen too many threads talking about something like that, either.

The only reason I ask this, and the reason I create this thread, is I'm looking for a hard project car to do; I was looking at either doing a 427 Cobra kit, which you see a lot but is still absolutely cool nonetheless... doing a rebuild on something like a '70 GTO, or doing something completely outlandish like making a beefy MR tC.

 

well doesn't adding all this stuff to a tC not make it a tC anymore....i mean new motor, new transmission, etc......seems like you're taking away all that makes it a tC

 

If (when?) you get started on that project Dogbert, I'm gonna have to drive down from KC and check it out.

Let's say that you are going to go MR with the tC, would you still look for a different engine?