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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:40 AM
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Smile AEM Bypass with Injen CAI?

Am thinking in getting the cai by injen model:sp2115p with the hydroshield that covers the filter to prevent water from entering. But i also want to get a bypass to add some extra protection.
Does the aem bypass works with the injen? Any other bypass brand besides aem? What will be the size of the bypass to fit with the injen pipe?
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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As long as pipe diameter is the same size it will work. You do realize it takes a LOT of water to hydrolock a motor, and the filter position will mean driving through a small lake to eve touch the filter?
Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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i have the bypass in my closet, along with the cover sleeve. bypass will not fit injen, without cutting the pipes. wasted money for me.
Old Feb 23, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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Ok, am gonna call Injen and see what's up with that. Now any difference in performance in short and long ram CAI?
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Originally Posted by nayo305
Ok, am gonna call Injen and see what's up with that. Now any difference in performance in short and long ram CAI?
short ram causes bad turbulence around 5k rpm, causing a/f to act up. short ram is better response at low rpm. injen is flared piping, wich is why it wont fit. i would never buy any injen product again period.
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Originally Posted by ESEMRFOZZ13
short ram causes bad turbulence around 5k rpm, causing a/f to act up. short ram is better response at low rpm. injen is flared piping, wich is why it wont fit. i would never buy any injen product again period.
Factual evidence?
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Just because the injen intake doesn't fit the bypass, doesn't mean they have bad products. They have large tubing for a reason. So you can have better air flow. The bypass is pointless anyways. If water is that high, you shouldn't be driving in it.
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Originally Posted by RoboCop
Just because the injen intake doesn't fit the bypass, doesn't mean they have bad products. They have large tubing for a reason. So you can have better air flow. The bypass is pointless anyways. If water is that high, you shouldn't be driving in it.
larger tubing? the size goes smaller at the maf , this makes it burn rich. they build crap, even thier exhaust raaaattttlllllleeees baaaaaddd, from poor design. i cut mine open in half to see thier $#!ty design.
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Factual evidence?
yeah it's called being tuned.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RoboCop
Just because the injen intake doesn't fit the bypass, doesn't mean they have bad products. They have large tubing for a reason. So you can have better air flow. The bypass is pointless anyways. If water is that high, you shouldn't be driving in it.
Larger tubing isn't always a good thing. The motor can only suck/handle so much air, so after a point your not gaining anything. Most intakes do little to add performance, and do a lot to add sound. Plus the MAF is calculated to have only a certain diameter piping around it, any bigger and yo have unmetered air flow and a CEL.

Originally Posted by ESEMRFOZZ13
larger tubing? the size goes smaller at the maf , this makes it burn rich. they build crap, even thier exhaust raaaattttlllllleeees baaaaaddd, from poor design. i cut mine open in half to see thier $#!ty design.
See my above post. The MAF is only calibrated for a certain pipe diameter at the metering point. The tubing going large to small at the point doesn't mean it's crap, it actually means they know what happens if you mess up the piping at the MAF. Unmetered air is a bad thing. Once again, if you are going to claim a product is crap, show some evidence to help out. (bad exhaust design being the point here) I've not heard of anyone complaining about Injen having bad designs over several platforms.

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yeah it's called being tuned.
Obviously, but show some evidence. You've made some claims in this thread that can be taken as questionable.
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the stock air intake tube is larger at the sensors mounting point, compared to injen. smaller size = burning rich, larger size = burn lean. google injen exhaust rattle.
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I love your tuning evidence. Thanks for nothing.

Google Injen Exhaust rattle, yielded 1 thread from SL about rattle. A few other results from other forums, most of which just needed a longer exhaust hanger.

Once again, Injen products are not junk. They have been consistently one of the best intakes across the board for several platforms. I'd love to see factual evidence about your rich/lean hypothesis. (IE wideband results, not here-say)
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if your taht set on getting a bypass filter search ebay. one can be had for under 20$ and does the SAME EXACT THING as the all mighty "aem" one....nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Inch-76mm-...ht_2353wt_1270
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i think the injen's 3 inches by the way correct me if im wrong.
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Originally Posted by Simplylibet
if your taht set on getting a bypass filter search ebay. one can be had for under 20$ and does the SAME EXACT THING as the all mighty "aem" one....nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Inch-76mm-...ht_2353wt_1270
Thanks for the link
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