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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:07 AM
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Well...thinking about taking out the power steering and wonder what length belt I would need if I did so...If u have any clue let me know.
Old Mar 21, 2012 | 07:52 AM
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Its not possible to route the belt simply by removing the power steering pump.
Old Mar 21, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by alf030
Well...thinking about taking out the power steering and wonder what length belt I would need if I did so...If u have any clue let me know.
I was thinking about this too, on my xb1...
Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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On an xB 1, you can use a belt from a Yaris w/o a/c to bypass the a/c. I've don't that on my xA.
Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Gates has a chart of part numbers based on width of the belt, and length.
I've bypassed the power steering on my '56 Ford hotrod. It's only 3500lbs, and has a nearly 20" steering wheel. Parking SUCKS. The steering rack is not geared to be used as manual.
Many of the later Scions use electric power steering. That would be a better idea. It's more work, and more money, but it's done right.
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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You have a racecar OP? You have no need to remove the power steering and will hate it down the road. You won't gain power from it.
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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As bad an idea bypassing power steering is, you CAN gain power by reducing parasitic drag. Just like using lighter pulleys or LIGHTER WHEELS. The concrete evidence: I pulled the power steering belt on my '56 at the drag strip, and gained a tenth or two.
Bypass the a/c instead. Or use lighter pulleys or light wheels!
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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Is that a Daily Driven street car where 5 hp matters? No. Horrible idea.
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I have to agree with Spicy on this one, the OP really needs to think some more about what he's trying to achieve by doing this. If the goal is to gain horsepower there are other ways of doing it without sacrificing agility.
Old Mar 25, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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I have a ____ed up line and wanted to bypass it until I could find out where and fix it...I'm not as dumb I don't wanna strong arm it lol...I have a geo metro as a daily and it doesn't have it and it blows with that light thing lol
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Still to what end? If you have a daily driver just drive the metro until you have time to repair the tC properly. I'm still not seeing why you would want/need a work around for this.

Still, since no one has actually came up with an answer here is what I would do. Get a piece of string, something about the size of a boot lace. (the best I can think of at the moment would be twine used to tie up tomato plants, should be able to get that at any hardware store) Then, with the original belt off, run it along the pulleys that you want to have power too, minus the belt tensioner. (you should be going straight over the belt tensioner) IF all the pulleys you want powered will work and the belt tensioner will actually tension the belt then you take the measurement of that string as the diameter of the belt. A simple ruler will tell you the dimensions of the V-belt so you just take those measurements to the autoparts store and tell them the exact belt size you need. Don't tell them what car you need it for because many behind the counter are just sales people and really don't know much about cars except what there training program teaches them.

This should get you the belt that will work for your application. There is still the possibility that this won't work. I think that the power steering pump is actually a critical turn point for the belt and it's deletion will cause the entire serpentine belt system not to work. The string will give you a good idea of if this is true or not. I still think you would be better off repairing the hose but that is my opinion based on the information given. I'm sure you have your reasons for doing this so I'll leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Is that a Daily Driven street car where 5 hp matters? No. Horrible idea.
I didn't say it was a good idea. In fact, I said my '56 is two handfuls to park. Agility is not affected, but slow speed turning is very much affected.

As I said earlier, if you aren't going to use light pulleys FIRST, bypass the a/c before youmess with the steering. My '56 has something like a 20" steering wheel, and it takes two hands to turn the wheel when parking (and it's only a few hundred pounds heavier than a tC.

Seriously though, look at other, more practical ways to gain power, like working on the "nut behind the wheel". Take a driving class. A great driver with a slower car can usually go faster than a good driver with a slightly faster car.
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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I answered your question already.

You would need to replace the ps pump with an idler pulley

With the ps pump replaced with an idler pulley the same size and no AC compressor you need a 63" belt
Old Mar 31, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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replace it with an idler pulley out of a 09-10 corolla xrs (2azfe engine), those cars have idler pulley because of the electric power steering, expect 4-6 whp on dyno. i've done it to a few cars but like the guys say it horrible to use it as a daily driver
Old Apr 1, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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no power steering feels solid at high speeds. as long as you turn when moving, it's not bad. the tires are not that wide.
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