I want more horsepower on my Scion tC. Help
01-14-2009, 09:54 PM
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Im just saying. Dont buy a tc 2 race without KNowing that a turbo kit with emergency money budget is atleast 5K.
Ur car is auto thats a 2nd mistake as well. NO OFFENSE TO AUTO tC.
Just make ur car look nice.
Bodykit,rims,system,coilover/springs.tint.exhaust and cai for NOISE.HID.. etc.. that kind of stuff..
IMO...
Ur car is auto thats a 2nd mistake as well. NO OFFENSE TO AUTO tC.
Just make ur car look nice.
Bodykit,rims,system,coilover/springs.tint.exhaust and cai for NOISE.HID.. etc.. that kind of stuff..
IMO...
01-14-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ProMark
Im just saying. Dont buy a tc 2 race without KNowing that a turbo kit with emergency money budget is atleast 5K.
Ur car is auto thats a 2nd mistake as well. NO OFFENSE TO AUTO tC.
Just make ur car look nice.
Bodykit,rims,system,coilover/springs.tint.exhaust and cai for NOISE.HID.. etc.. that kind of stuff..
IMO...
Ur car is auto thats a 2nd mistake as well. NO OFFENSE TO AUTO tC.
Just make ur car look nice.
Bodykit,rims,system,coilover/springs.tint.exhaust and cai for NOISE.HID.. etc.. that kind of stuff..
IMO...
01-20-2009, 01:27 PM
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The more decals you add the faster you'll go.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
01-23-2009, 06:01 AM
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Man you are so some guys havent flamed the crap out of you yet.
You have a Scion Tc sir. Without boost, I dont care what kind of intake, exhaust, header you have. You will still be slow. Period. And you have an automatic tc, which racing it is basically to test how heavy your foot is. Plain and simple. I have an automatic tc, I used to "race" it then realized how much of a moron I was "racing" an n/a automatic tc. You wanna get laughed at when people see you racing then see you have an automatic? There is no skill in it at all.
Stop "racing" and dont think an exhaust intake or anything will make you fast. Cause youre not. And dont think you can just throw away your car like that. Its not as simple as trading it back to the delearship or giving it to a sibling, your going to lose money, might as well keep it for a while.
You have a Scion Tc sir. Without boost, I dont care what kind of intake, exhaust, header you have. You will still be slow. Period. And you have an automatic tc, which racing it is basically to test how heavy your foot is. Plain and simple. I have an automatic tc, I used to "race" it then realized how much of a moron I was "racing" an n/a automatic tc. You wanna get laughed at when people see you racing then see you have an automatic? There is no skill in it at all.
Stop "racing" and dont think an exhaust intake or anything will make you fast. Cause youre not. And dont think you can just throw away your car like that. Its not as simple as trading it back to the delearship or giving it to a sibling, your going to lose money, might as well keep it for a while.
01-23-2009, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
The more decals you add the faster you'll go.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
MAYBE if he got a tune but otherwise no. You're basically saying he would get similar gains that a S/C setup will give you with just a few simple bolt ons.
With those mods on a 5spd you're looking at 160whp at best..if your an auto MAYBE around 150whp
01-23-2009, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by XIEmperorIX
Originally Posted by ecko04
The more decals you add the faster you'll go.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
If you want to keep your tC N/A then the best you can do, I may leave out something, but headers, catback exhaust, cai, s-pipe, a good combination of all the above will but you around 170-175 whp. With that setup add about a 30" resonator to eliminate rasp.
Perhaps if you add in pulleys you might be able to take it to 180whp....but that is wishful thinking. 40 to 50 extra whp w/o going turbo/super is pretty decent and you'll still get good gas mileage assuming you don't constantly drive in the 5k RPM range.
But then again you are on auto so you won't see those types of gains, hope for 150.
MAYBE if he got a tune but otherwise no. You're basically saying he would get similar gains that a S/C setup will give you with just a few simple bolt ons.
With those mods on a 5spd you're looking at 160whp at best..if your an auto MAYBE around 150whp
also depends on what dyno you are using. i made 163.9 whp on ptunings dyno dynamics dyno with i/h/e and they said estimate would be in the 170ish on a dyno jet.
01-23-2009, 12:40 PM
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also thre was a guy with the same mods as me that dynoed in the 140s whp that had a full pulley set, full exhaust and mishimoto radiator. they said a it was too much for a n/a motor and not enough back pressure.
01-23-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XIEmperorIX
there is absolutely know way in hell that an i/h/e/p setup will yield gains regardless of whether he was a manual or an auto.
MAYBE if he got a tune but otherwise no. You're basically saying he would get similar gains that a S/C setup will give you with just a few simple bolt ons.
With those mods on a 5spd you're looking at 160whp at best..if your an auto MAYBE around 150whp
MAYBE if he got a tune but otherwise no. You're basically saying he would get similar gains that a S/C setup will give you with just a few simple bolt ons.
With those mods on a 5spd you're looking at 160whp at best..if your an auto MAYBE around 150whp
5 spd
155.95 HORSE & 160.07 TORQUE
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=86843
Injen CAI/MMW Header/CC.Com Catback w/ res & cat
162.1HP 159.7TQ
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=103795
Injen CAI/Alphawerks Header/CC S-Pipe (Stainless Steel)/CC Full Exhaust With/High Flow Cat(Stainless Steel)/Magnaflow Resonator "14/NST Underdrive Crank Pulley
1st & 2nd runs ~ 155 whp
3rd Run: 172.0whp @ 5672 RPM & 158.4tq (3rd of 4th gear cant remember)
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=113178
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*NST Lightweight Crank Pulley
*NST 20% Overdrive Alternator Pulley
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*HKS Hi-Power w/ custom catback
140 whp & 146 tq
Impossible? At best 160? I don't think so, dyno's prove it. 170whp is on the higher end of the scale, obviously as stated when I said "wishful thinking", but conceivably 25 to 35 whp over stock on a manual and 15 to 25 whp over stock on an auto.
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01-23-2009, 01:56 PM
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Considering #2 and #3 have no dyno sheets for proof, nor before/after results, those numbers mean absolutely nothing.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
01-23-2009, 02:01 PM
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this thread is retarted.
to get more power go turbo an voila ur "faster"
but considering u dont know "how" to work on a car or what makes ur car quicker then most likely u dont even know how a turbo works so ull jus blow ur motor or blow sumthing.
bolt on's for power=NO
forced induction=Yes
automatic=Fail
end of story
ibtl
to get more power go turbo an voila ur "faster"
but considering u dont know "how" to work on a car or what makes ur car quicker then most likely u dont even know how a turbo works so ull jus blow ur motor or blow sumthing.
bolt on's for power=NO
forced induction=Yes
automatic=Fail
end of story
ibtl
01-23-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Considering #2 and #3 have no dyno sheets for proof, nor before/after results, those numbers mean absolutely nothing.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
Still the point was they increase hp, not to what the op wants probably, plus he's 17, 18 he doesn't need anything supercharged or turbocharged, he would likely kill himself, someone else or blow a motor so stick to bolting and welding stuff on. Your parents will be happier and the insurance company will be too.
01-23-2009, 04:40 PM
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the one that had a 172whp had a full exhaust and a high flow cat. Your mod list specified a catback exhaust, cai, spipe, and header. Of course a full exhaust is going to result in more HP and a high flow cat in 1 or 2 more. I made my statement based on the mods you specified.
Otherwise those other dynos proved my point. And that is still not 40-50whp gain over stock.
Otherwise those other dynos proved my point. And that is still not 40-50whp gain over stock.
01-23-2009, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Considering #2 and #3 have no dyno sheets for proof, nor before/after results, those numbers mean absolutely nothing.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
Plus that first example is more realistically ~150whp, considering it was done on a DynoJet and I wouldn't doubt that the #3 example was on a DynaPack or DynoJet.
Still the point was they increase hp, not to what the op wants probably, plus he's 17, 18 he doesn't need anything supercharged or turbocharged, he would likely kill himself, someone else or blow a motor so stick to bolting and welding stuff on. Your parents will be happier and the insurance company will be too.
.Point is, without before/after, a dyno chart means nothing.