I know the difference between a wet sleeve and a dry sleeve. What is the difference in a M.I.D. sleeve kit vs T-flanged sleeve kit?

 

Modular Integrated Deck Sleeves are Patented by Darton.

"MID is defined as an integral solid deck in the upper block area where thin casting material is removed and replace with nested and siamesed sleeve flanges held in tension, reinforcing the block."

As far as a T-Flange? Dunno

 

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Wet sleeves are like dartons, the outside of the sleeve is contacting the coolant. Dry sleeves are the stock iron sleeves that are cast into the aluminum, a "repair" sleeve is a dry sleeve, it replaces the stock sleeve

 

not necessarily repair sleeves can be wet as well. I was just trying to find out the difference in the T-flange sleeves (can be wet or dry) and the MID sleeves. Apparently after speaking to Darton they said both are wet sleeves and very similar. Are you sure the stock sleeves are dry not wet, I thought they were wet?

 

The cylinders are wet. The cylinder has an Iron sleeve cast into the aluminum. Making the sleeve itself dry.

 

The 300 series flanged leaves the block and open deck and is good up to 20 psi of boost.

The MID kit converts the block to a closed deck and can go to 50+psi of boost.

 

 

 

LOL you two crack me up!

 

You have to see us in person........

 

i smell a dezod car coming with darton sleeves.

 

darton sleeves for the win trust me

 

What about a stock non-sleeved block w/ pistons and rods?

 

We can do something like that, but will not be that safe. We saw a stock N/A 2AZFE detonate itself to death due to the knock sensor coming of the block. The engine had 2 cylinders where the stock sleeves cracked and the cylinder head was utter trash as well.

So, moral of the story, unless the tuning is done pristinely, we recommend sleeving the engine for any decent power levels especially over 400whp

 

Already have the Darton M.I.D. kit just wanted to know the difference is all.

 

its just ba thats all that matters lol

 

great info!

 

imho adding sleeves gives you that extra safety margin which is soooooo dearly needed when dealing with self tuning, buddy tuning, or from a shop that doesnt have the background working with the scion brand. Now that doesnt mean the engine will make it out of those situations alive but could be the one thing that saves it.

 

how much is the mid kit ? and what do u think the tc will run safely { psi wise) ? built head as well ?